From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:59 AM Subject: INXS: (no subject) What the hell has happened to the votes totals, have they been reverted back to zero and started again. 1. U2 Pride (In the Name of Love) 75026 2. U2 With or Without You 71564 3. U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday 59753 4. Duran Duran Hungry Like the Wolf 42395 5. A-ha Take On Me 19476 6. Bauhaus Bela Lugosi's Dead 4153 7. Depeche Mode Just Can't Get Enough 2273 8. The Police Every Breath You Take 1989 9. Violent Femmes Blister in the Sun 1884 10. Soft Cell Tainted Love 1633 11. The Cult She Sells Sanctuary 1614 12. New Order Blue Monday 1360 13. Band-Aid Do They Know It's Christmas? 1255 14. INXS Need You Tonight 1245 15. Talking Heads Burning Down the House 1021 16. Human League Don't You Want Me 802 17. Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart 731 18. Men Without Hats Safety Dance 668 19. Tears for Fears Shout 639 20. Simple Minds Don't You Forget About Me 411 From: "Stefan" To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC: Lost email program Leah what are you doing ????? Here it is ! Stefan From: "Abbey Fisher" To: Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: INXS: looking for new INXS songs Hi everyone! I can't remember if this was ever posted, but I'm looking for recordings (either a hard copy or MP3 or other electronic source) of new INXS songs (anything written since Michael's death). I wasn't able to see them on the recent U.S. tour, but I would love to know where I can hear new songs. And, just out of curiosity, does anyone know who wrote the new music? I know Andrew and Michael wrote a lot of songs together, presumably Andrew writing music, Michael writing lyrics. I'm wondering if Andrew has been writing music and lyrics or if Jon Stevens or any of the band members have been contributing. If someone has a song or two they can email to me, please let me know and I'll give you an email address that can handle a large file size. If you have it on CD, I'm more than happy to send a blank and return postage to get a copy. Thank you for your help! Abbey in York, PA, USA http://www.jubileeusa.org "Just as you find me, Always I will be, A little bit too free, With myself..." -- U2, Summer Rain From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Re: INXS: looking for new INXS songs Two sites have the songs I believe, search for INXS El Mundo latino the argentinian INXS site has a 128bit MP3 of "Sugar/Funkster" (What You Need also) and there's another site liveinxslive or something which has low quality videos of Sugar and Hungry (By My Side also). Both the new songs, Sugar and Hungry were written by Andrew Farriss. Kick From: "P.D.Thackray" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:28 AM Subject: INXS: Ringtones Can anyone send me websites where I can get INXS ringtones for a Nokia phone, please? Penny From: "K D" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Ringtones It all depends on the phone you have. I can't find any for my Motorola V60. Try ringtones4all.com (?) Karen From: To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: INXS: Looking for Help!! Hi Friends, I thought I would see if anyone on this list or if anyone on this list could find out about the lack of TV exposure for this past tour. Recently I was with some of my best friends when I started up again about how great INXS were at the concerts I attended,which there was no denying as some of them attended a show or 2 with me. Then out of the clear blue sky one of he guys asked me why they did not appear on any of the shows i.e. Leno,Letterman,Conan etc. especially considering the time they spent in CA , NY and NJ. I was lost for words,as everytime they hit the states they where on somewhere,which brings me to my point,do you think they (the band or management) where ever asked or do you think they may have tried and been denied,because IMHO it would have been great publicity considering how great Jon Stevens fit in and also to promote the new CD's coming out shortly. Any and all opinions accepted.Till next time Take Care & God Bless!! Love & Peace, Bonnie & Joe From: "Glenn Misztal" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:04 AM Subject: INXS: White Collar Blue promos Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but has anyone in Australia seen the 'White Collar Blue' promos on Channel 10? They've been playing INXS's "Taste It" for those ads! Not much these days makes me rush to the television, but this certainly did! - Glenn Who just watched the premiere for "24" and thought it was great. From: "karma" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:55 AM Subject: Re: INXS: White Collar Blue promos Hi Glenn, Yeah I saw it about a week ago while the Commonwealth Games were still on and I did the same thing, rushed to the tv and screamed to my husband, hey listen they're playing "Taste It" to promote "White Collar Blue" obviously doesn't take much to excite me..LOL!! Judy :o) From: To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: Re: INXS: White Collar Blue promos The final episode of "24" screens here in the UK this coming Sunday. It's an excellent series, if a little stretched out in the middle episodes, but I'm still gripped. Trust no-one LOL :-) From: To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:33 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Looking for Help!! The promotion here in the UK for the INXS/Blondie tour is virtually non existent. All there is, are a smattering of newspaper ads, and the odd poster or two around the venues they are to play. I personally think the press (here at least, I don't know about the rest of the world)are dismissing INXS as a 1 trick pony (Michael), and now that he's not around, they are not interested (there is no notoriety attached to the band, thus no press interest). IMHO that is. That said, I can see why they haven't done too much self promotion prior, because it's going to mean going over the inevitable Michael stuff agian and it's been 5 years damn it, so change the record and live in the now, which is what the guys are trying to do. I still think a single release from the boys, prior to touring a particular nation, with Jon on vocals (even if it was just a live version of a "Michael" track) would at least have given the curious or the doubters a chance to make up their minds about the validity of the band. By the way, on a different subject, can you beleive that by selling just 1600 copies of a CD single in the UK these days, can get you to 12th in the countdown. I couldn't believe it when they stated George Michael's totally mis-interpreted and excellent sounding single had only sold that many copies, and yet it still got in at 12 in the charts. (On the George Michael thing, have any of you in the USA heard the track, and how does your opinion compare with the over-reacting press here and in the US?) If I had a band and a bit of cash I'd just go out and buy 2000 copies of my own single if it guarenteed an almost certain top ten hit :-) Easy self promotion really, cos a top ten selling band isn't going to go un-noticed is it ???????? Is it the case around the world that an artist can sell seemingly so few copies and yet do so well in the charts? I'd be very interested to know how easy it is to get a hit around the world these days. Jon, Kirk, Andrew, Gary, Tim, and Jon S, get a track out, spend a couple of grand of your own cash and buy out several thousand copies, ( we'll be buying it too :-) ) and in the process you'll guarentee a hit, the radio play that comes with it, and that will bring the punters and the press to you. Plus you'll get some cash back from you're investment with the royalties Ha Ha! I shoulda been a manager !!! Colonel Parker eat your heart out!!! LOL!!!! Love and Peace to all you INXE-ites out there and I can't wait for December at the NEC Birmingham. Jim From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 7:40 AM Subject: RE: INXS: NIC George Michael --- Jimavfc@aol.com wrote: > By the way, on a different subject, can you beleive that by selling > just 1600 copies of a CD single in the UK these days, can get you to > 12th in the countdown. I couldn't believe it when they stated George > Michael's totally mis-interpreted and excellent sounding single had > only sold that many copies, and yet it still got in at 12 in the > charts. (On the George Michael thing, have any of you in the USA > heard the track, and how does your opinion compare with the > over-reacting press here and in the US?) I've heard the track on the internet -- I agree that it's not bad at all. And the video is hilarious! (Though not as funny as Freeek... which was perhaps not intentionally funny...) Regardless, I think things have been blown out of proportion -- hardly anyone in the US even knew about this single, let alone having this really negative reaction to the single. To be honest, no one really cares here! Only one newspaper, the NY Post (an inflammatory NY daily) ran a cover story going off on George for the lyrical content of the song -- mainstream America (and most NY'ers for that matter) aren't even aware of this supposed controversy. > Is it the case around the world that an artist can sell seemingly so > few copies and yet do so well in the charts? I'd be very interested > to know how easy it is to get a hit around the world these days. It's quite difficult to get a top ten hit in the United States based on sales -- much more important is radio airplay on top 40 pop stations. For example, the Elvis vs JXL single was the biggest single with respect to sales in the US for the last several weeks, but could only manage a #50 peak on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart -- solely because pop radio stations aren't playing the single. The song is getting airplay on adult stations, but they don't usually report their airplay to the Hot 100, so that doesn't help. -neil ===== Neil Kothari, M.D. Bellevue Hospital / New York University Medical Center An Excess of INXS -- http://INXSweb.com Best 2001 --http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/9224/music2001.html From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: INXS: NIC George Michael On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 07:40 AM, Neil Kothari wrote: > Regardless, I think things have been blown out of proportion -- hardly > anyone in the US > even knew about this single, let alone having this really negative > reaction to the single. To be honest, no one really cares here! Only > one newspaper, the NY Post (an inflammatory NY daily) ran a cover story > going off on George for the lyrical content of the song -- mainstream > America (and most NY'ers for that matter) aren't even aware of this > supposed controversy. Exactly! I only found out about the "controversy" from reading a UK paper where George was quoted saying that he's afraid to reenter the US for fear that he'd be killed. I was like, "huh?" I think the last thing most US people remember him doing was being arrested in the bathroom in Beverly Hills. That was mildly amusing for 15 mins, but we've gotten over it. ;-) What's the name of the song? I've been meaning to check it out, but can't recall its name. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Looking for Help!! Hi Jim, A good honest opinion on your behalf,the same here in the States promotion was practically non-existant,I guess I should have mentioned that either of the 2 new songs they are playing on tour is better than 95% of the garbage that is on the radio,so maybe by making an appearance on some show and performing one of them it might have put the past 5 yrs to rest and given the band a fresh new look to show they are still truly one of the best live bands in the world. Thanks, Joe From: "Cherie" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: RE: INXS: NIC George Michael "Shoot the dog" Take care Cherie From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:23 AM Subject: INXS: NIC George Michael, and way too serious content, sorry :-) the song is called Shoot The Dog. For those who don't know, the furore is over the song's lyrical content, and accusations that George Michael is being anti-USA, and some have even suggested a sympathiser to those who oppose the US. When the lyrics are examined it is basically calling Tony Blair (UK Prime Minister) the "Dog", with George Bush being his master. The song is saying that by following along word for word on George Bush's foreign policy, and war statements, we could find that those with political aims that are contrary to that of Mr Bush/US Government may decide to "Shoot The Dog" to make an example of those who choose to be allies to the US. Mr Bush's statements since Sept 11 have not met with wide-scale approval with most nations around the world, among them the UK, and Mr Blair's blindness on this and to the UK citizens opinions, and even those within his own government, is what is being raised in the song. It doesn't say not to seek out those responsible for atrocities such as Sept 11, merely asks why Mr Blair can't make his own statements and has to behave as a "good puppy" as Mr Bush's "pet". But away from the controversy, the song is damn good, and uses an excellent sample of "Love Action" by the Human League, and the words aren't the most decipherable in the song's mix so they are mostly hidden by the superb dance sound. Anyway, end of my serious phase I think for the next 3 months, this much is way more than I can usually stretch too :-) Jim From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Looking for Help!! does anyone know whether the Blondie/INXS tour of the UK is going to have alternate nights for each as closing act. Cos to be honest I'm not too keen to see Blondie again, I thought Debbie Harry was totally lacking in any stage presence and remained rooted to the spot throughout the last time I saw them, and they were the worst show (though the guys were musically superb) I've ever seen. I'd love to know which band will close for the NEC Birmingham gig. Any1 able to help????????????? Jim From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC George Michael so if an artist sells more copies, they don't get a chart position that truely reflects this?? Wow, weird set up. As a matter of interest, does the Elvis vs JXL track also run with the Nike soccer ad in the Rest Of the World as it was used in Europe? From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC George Michael --- Jimavfc@aol.com wrote: > so if an artist sells more copies, they don't get a chart position > that truely reflects this?? > Wow, weird set up. That's exactly right -- but you have to remember that the US is almost strictly album sales these days, whereas the UK still enjoys a thriving singles sales area. The single has, for better or worse, been nearly phased out of the US market because it was thought it was stealing sales from (the more expensive) album. I don't really care, personally -- I can just continue picking up the occasional UK import single if I so desire. :) > As a matter of interest, does the Elvis vs JXL track also run with > the Nike > soccer ad in the Rest Of the World as it was used in Europe? Nope, not in the US as far as I know. -neil ===== Neil Kothari, M.D. Bellevue Hospital / New York University Medical Center An Excess of INXS -- http://INXSweb.com Best 2001 --http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/9224/music2001.html From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:10 AM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC George Michael thanks Neil From: "K D" To: Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: INXS: Happy Birthday Jon No, I didn't forget. I always wish my fave drummer a happy bday every year :-) Thanks for the great show in NJ. Love Karen From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:18 AM Subject: INXS: where is everybody ????? I suggest we do a head count, because someone or something is taking you all away :-) Is there anybody left out there? God, I can't believe how quite this list has become. I've subscribed to the Duran Duran list too because of the original line up's reformation, and to get news on the new album and because tour details will leak out there 1st, and on their list the mails are overwhelming. You wouldn't beleive how obsessive they are and were totally consumed trying to get them to win the Pepsi 80's vote. I really miss that sort of passion about INXS on any mailing lists, which is a shame, but I suppose when Michael went so did the shallow fans of the band. How about everyone who still subscribes to the list just mailing a hello so we know who's still out there ? It would be nice to have a full Inbox of hellos from the INXS-ites out there to each other. What can I do to get all your juices flowing ?? Topics are rare these days, even those with NIC. I'm not really in an inflamatory mood, so I won't use the ploy of controversial statements to get you all going. Let's see, how about this If you had to pick a vocalist to have taken over from Michael who would it have been, and why ? This is meant in no way as being negative to Jon Stevens, who now he's in is the only person I could ever picture doing the job. I'm just interested in who you'd all have gone for, and why, if the choice were down to you. I'm sooooooooooooooo psyched the guys are out on the road around the world, and look forward to seeing Jon after seeing various show clips. Also for anyone interested in any new UK music, I recommend highly :- the new Primal Scream album, new band The Music, and their new track Take The Long Road & Walk It with new debut album out in the UK Sept 2nd (this band will be massive and are my fave new band of the last 12 months), The Bellrays, The Beta Band. You can find examples of/download these bands on KaZa. How bout you guys around the world, what are the happening music acts out there from your country ? I've always loved lots of music to come from Oz, so tell me about bands from your respective countries and why they are sooooo hot, or where samples of their work can be heard. Keep the faith and lets pump up the volume on old and new sensations Jim From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:29 AM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes the delibarate mistake was the inclusion of The Bellrays as a UK act :-) SORRY !!!! From: "Nicky McMillan" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:15 AM Subject: RE: INXS: where is everybody ????? Hey! As a fairly new member of the list I have been disappointed by the traffic on the list but at the same time not surprised. I to im based in the UK, really looking forward to seeing INXS 4 times in December (maybe even more shows!) I've ended up joining the Blondie list to catch some of the tour hype seeing as there's very little here. So who's going to what UK show? Who's going to Glasgow? I'm intending on getting to the venue very early in that morning to queue for the best position (A few Blondie fans have the same idea), maybe you think im abit mad but with it being my first INXS gig then I intend on savouring the day and get the best position possible. I'm hoping to meet some INXS fans in the queue :) But at the moment it seems like the shows will be dominated by Blondie fans. As for other music, I'd highly recommend Doves latest album "The Last Broadcast". I'm going to see them for the first time in Edinburgh next week. They've just returned from a successful tour down under. Also having heard JJ72's latest single this weekend, expect big things from them. Again have a ticket to see them in Newcastle in October :) Roll on December!! Nicky From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Ringtones Hi, I have this one. Hope it'll be ok for you. Need You Tonight Tempo=100, 16d1,8p,16p,16d1,8p,16p,16d1,4p,8p,16f1,16f1,32f1,16p,32p,16e1, 16e1,32e1,16p,32p,16d1,4p,8f1,8g1,8g1,8c2,2a1,2p,8f1,8g1,16a1,8 p, 16p,8f1,8p,2d1, Marie-B On 8 Aug 2002, at 10:28, P.D.Thackray wrote: > Can anyone send me websites where I can get INXS ringtones for a > Nokia phone, please? > > Penny From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: INXS: Live in Paris I saw on e-bay that there was a cd from the gig they played in Paris on July 1st 1997. Does anyone know about it? The seller never replied to me. I wanted to go see them that day but not alone, thinking I could see them the next time... Hope they'll play Paris in 2003! Marie-B From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Live in Paris Hi Marie, I have a copy of that show, it's a 2 cd set and the sound quality is very good, if you want we can trade something, that way you save some money! Let me know. Take care, Pedro --- inxs@chez.com wrote: > I saw on e-bay that there was a cd from the gig they > played in > Paris on July 1st 1997. Does anyone know about it? > The seller > never replied to me. > > I wanted to go see them that day but not alone, > thinking I could > see them the next time... Hope they'll play Paris in > 2003! > > Marie-B > From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? hi Jimavfc@aol.com wrote:DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes the delibarate mistake was the inclusion of The Bellrays as a UK act :-) SORRY !!!! In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 4:18:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jimavfc writes: > > > I suggest we do a head count, because someone or something is taking you all away :-) Is there anybody left out there? > > God, I can't believe how quite this list has become. > > I've subscribed to the Duran Duran list too because of the original line up's reformation, and to get news on the new album and because tour details will leak out there 1st, and on their list the mails are overwhelming. You wouldn't beleive how obsessive they are and were totally consumed trying to get them to win the Pepsi 80's vote. I really miss that sort of passion about INXS on any mailing lists, which is a shame, but I suppose when Michael went so did the shallow fans of the band. > > How about everyone who still subscribes to the list just mailing a hello so we know who's still out there ? It would be nice to have a full Inbox of hellos from the INXS-ites out there to each other. > > What can I do to get all your juices flowing ?? Topics are rare these days, even those with NIC. I'm not really in an inflamatory mood, so I won't use the ploy of controversial statements to get you all going. > > Let's see, how about this > > If you had to pick a vocalist to have taken over from Michael who would it have been, and why ? > > This is meant in no way as being negative to Jon Stevens, who now he's in is the only person I could ever picture doing the job. I'm just interested in who you'd all have gone for, and why, if the choice were down to you. > > I'm sooooooooooooooo psyched the guys are out on the road around the world, and look forward to seeing Jon after seeing various show clips. > > Also for anyone interested in any new UK music, I recommend highly :- > the new Primal Scream album, > new band The Music, and their new track Take The Long Road & Walk It with new debut album out in the UK Sept 2nd (this band will be massive and are my fave new band of the last 12 months), > The Bellrays, > The Beta Band. > You can find examples of/download these bands on KaZa. > > How bout you guys around the world, what are the happening music acts out there from your country ? > > I've always loved lots of music to come from Oz, so tell me about bands from your respective countries and why they are sooooo hot, or where samples of their work can be heard. > > Keep the faith and lets pump up the volume on old and new sensations > > Jim > > why would anyone ever want to bring you down? you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? In a message dated 8/12/02 2:20:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Jimavfc@aol.com writes: > > If you had to pick a vocalist to have taken over from Michael who would it > have been, and why? > Hey there, Jim...I guess I would still vote for Jon Stevens as he was awesome and did not pretend to be anyone but himself both on stage and off. His wife was very nice, too. I'd like to add that his singing is very good and he fit in with the boys. He is a great frontman. I'm very glad INXS did not have Terrence Trent D'arby (sp) because personally I didn't like his singing INXS songs. (sorry to his fans) I do like his song "Wishing Well" ;) I have to say I am really liking Nickelback (my son kinda looks like the guitarist) one of his classmates (a girl) told him that, too. I like Three Doors Down, too. I like Matchbox 20, GooGoo Dolls, No Doubt.....I love music. I even like Pink. I do not like Rap. Hmmmmm good questions, Jim. Oh, the list is usually pretty quiet over the weekend. Some people may be on vacations (or holidays), school breaks, etc. Hey, by the way everyone. Does anyone know Carlos (zoorecords@hotmail.com and carlosnunez@ciudad.com.ar) as he owes me two cds? I hope he is ok, but I hope he has a good excuse for not answering my emails (I've only sent about 5!!!!) Don't deal with him unless you get what you asked for first. I guess I learned the hard way. No more Miss Nice Girl!!! I told Carlos I would do this - tell the list - if he didn't answer or follow through. If I am wrong, I will express that to the list, Carlos. I sure do hope you prove me wrong, dude! Ok, back to being the nice girl....have a great week everyone (even you, Carlos) I miss INXS. I am still going through withdrawals. Cannot wait for them to return to the states (next year, guys?) laurie From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:53 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Happy Birthday Jon ack! I was gone yesterday, happy belated bday Jon!! To the best drummer ever! :-D ~Jennifer From: "Dennis Long" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Live in Paris Yeah, I know all about that show. I traded it to that guy, and now he's selling it for $20 or something like that on ebay. Not too cool, considering the cost of putting those CDRs together is about a dollar. Please don't buy from people like that. There's enough traders to go around, and it's very inexpensive. You can buy cdrs in multipacks of 50 for about $10 (if you wait for a good bargain) or even less (after big rebates), and mailing them in trade only costs about 25 cents per disc. Please don't ever buy cdrs. From: "Dagette Dillon" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? Just read the email and thought I'd say HELLO I haven't posted for soooooo long :O} Hope everyone is well!!! I can't wait for the new INXS CD its gonna be very kewl :O} Huggles Lisa From: "Tony Doreika" To: "INXS List" Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: INXS: version of NTUA Well gang, Yes indeed, the list has been quiet for some time now........for all interested, Joe Cocker just released a new album with Never Tear Us Apart as a cover. NOT BAD!!!! I was seemingly impressed with his redo of this song. It apparently meant something to him as well, perhaps his own tribute to MH in his own way. Now of course, one has to have a unique ear to listen to Joe Cocker, but I've enjoyed following him over the years! Check out the album 'teasers' at amazon.com or cdnow.com..........the albums title is 'Respect Yourself' and it was just released within the past month. (Many thanks to Neil, who originally mentioned this CD several weeks ago) Love & Peace, Tony D. From: "K D" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? Besides INXS, I was privileged enough to go see Simple Minds twice (including the show with INXS in NJ) and Rush this summer. So far, every concert I've been to was most excellent. I heard about the original DD lineup being back together. I hope they tour soon. I haven't seen them in concert since 98. I hope the magic is still there. Can't wait to hear material that they have written. Ok, what's popular in the US you may ask? It depends on the genre. Toby Keith and Montgomery Gentry for country, Eminem and Ludacris for rap, POD and Korn for rock, and DJ Sammy and Yanou for dance. Karen in MD From: "K D" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Live in Paris Don't be afraid to go to concerts by yourself!!! Some of my best concert experiences came from me have the willpower to go without anyone. Case in point, York, PA 1997--I meet INXS for the first time. My boyfriend at the time refused to go so I left him at home. Sept 1998--I drove 11 hrs each way from DC to Nashville to see Real Life. I got to meet them and hang out with the guys at a country bar. June 29, 2002--current boyfriend didn't want to go see Simple Minds in DC. I wound up meeting Charlie and he gave me his pick and three drumsticks from Mel. I am grateful for everything physical and mental I get from concerts. Karen airdrummer extraordinaire ROTFLOL!!! From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc Hey -- For some reason, "Don't Change" seems to be the song to cover if you're a band interested in reworking an INXS classic. I just found that a short-lived Midwest band by the name of Ruined In A Day made a cover of the song for inclusion on a CD single in 2000. Took a while, but I was able to track down an MP3 of the song -- it's now available to those who subscribe to the inxsweb.com site (go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inxsweb to grab the file, or to subscribe for access to the archive.) Re: ideal INXS frontmen -- I have to stick my guns and keep with an opinion I expressed a few years ago -- a charismatic rock female singer would be an excellent way to shake things up. Personally, Johnette Napolitano (former lead singer of Concrete Blonde) always struck me as an ideal candidate. For the record, I loved TTD's performance -- not because he did the best job possible, but because it was *different* and *unexpected*. I'm tired of the same old thing from the boys -- let's shake it up for a new century! Jon Stevens is certainly an adequate frontman, don't get me wrong -- but (forgive me if I'm being mean) -- he just seems like a shoddy Michael replacement. Ouch, had to be said my friends. :) Anyway, lastly -- what am I listening to these days? As a few of you have written, Doves' Last Broadcast is a beautiful record. I'm also playing Elbow's Asleep in the Back alot, along with the new Verve Remixed CD... Gene's Libertine was just released in the US -- must still pick it up but the first single ("Let Me Move On") is brilliant. -neil From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? Hi everybody, I'm happily back in Phoenix, Arizona and got to see the show here. It was absolutely fabulous. Jon does a magnificent job of filling the frontman position. After Michael died, I honestly thought the guys would have to go on as they were cuz I didn't think it was possible to find anyone who could tune into a crowd the way Michael did. I'm ecstatic to know that INXS has gotten beyond the grief and loss and are able to go on as strong as ever. Long live Michael's memory & long live INXS !!! Sue From: "karma" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc Hey Neil, How funny you should mention Johnette Napolitano from Concrete Blonde. As it just happens, they reformed and toured Australia in June and I went to see them. It was a really great concert and I actually thought of Michael in the sense of her personality, the way she related to the audience and If I hadn't just seen them a couple of months ago, I would have thought..What? But I really tend to agree with you and she is charismatic too. A great choice. Ah, if only!!..... I personally didn't like TTD at all though and as for Jon Stevens, I agree with you even though I know I'm in the minority...LOL! L&P, Judy From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc There's no denying Jon Stevens stage mannerisms are very similar to Hutch's. But I don't necessarily think his voice is a dead ringer for Hutch's, though, except when he hits certain notes, then he sounds similar. I liked the chance to hear him on the new songs and size him up on his own merits (although, I have to say, since those songs are very trademark INXS, he still doesn't completely get away from the Hutch comparisons). I hope the band are working on some new songs with him, maybe some that get away from the "INXS" sound that's been at the core of all their albums since Kick. Re: Female singer. Didn't the Baby Animals girl do a few songs with them a couple years ago? Did anyone get any feedback from the band on their take of it? That'd been nice to have a clip of that to listen to. Re: TTD. Great talent. He was very different and unexpected, although his soulfullness lent itself well to the band's sound. I think I remember Gary indicating they wanted to do some more work with him, but he had his own solo thing he wanted to pursue instead. Back to Jon Stevens. I think people's opinion that he's a "safe" choice may be on the mark. However, "shoddy" and merely "adequate" may be a bit too critical. I'd have liked to see some clips of him with Noiseworks just to see how much he changed his stage actions for INXS, just to know if he's doing his own "thing". But then again, if I was doing those songs, I would probably be moving (or trying--heh heh) like Michael, too! Seems to me that the band don't want to stray too far from what they know by going with him. They may be uncertain enough about touring without Michael to have to deal with a new singer who is totally out of their comfort zone. Brian From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: INXS: where is everybody ????? Hi all, I think the reason the list has gotten so quiet is because INXS just came through America and we spent months going crazy over it. Now we're kind of blown away and recovering!!! At least that accounts for us Americans! LOL!! Cheers, Leah From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Live in Paris Marie, I have this CD, it's very good. It's a two disc set. Leah On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:05:42 +0200 inxs@chez.com writes: > I saw on e-bay that there was a cd from the gig they played in > Paris on July 1st 1997. Does anyone know about it? The seller > never replied to me. > > I wanted to go see them that day but not alone, thinking I could > see them the next time... Hope they'll play Paris in 2003! > > Marie-B > > From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: INXS: Is this really Andrew? Hi everyone. You guys are the experts here. Please look at this poster that is on e-bay. I don't ever remember Andrew having a mustache or any other facial hair for that matter. But.....I could be wrong. It just looks weird (and kind of funny too!) It looks to me like someone drew it on him! Anyway....what do you all think?? Here is the link: eBay item 899517591 (Ends Aug-17-02 20:47:41 PDT ) - Inxs POSTER Oh...and if this is anyone on the list who is selling this poster....my apologies in advance if it's legit. Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: "Donna D" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? From: "Deirdre Jennette" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? Rosemarie, Yes that is really Andrew LOL! It's from the "The Swing" era :) Looking at that brought back 80s memories - skinny ties, flourescent clothing, black rubber bracelets etc.. LOL! Dee in NYC >>Hi everyone. You guys are the experts here. Please look at this poster >>that is on e-bay. I don't ever remember Andrew having a mustache or any >>other facial hair for that matter. But.....I could be wrong. It just >>looks weird (and kind of funny too!) It looks to me like someone drew it >>on him! "They love you when you're on all the covers; when you're not, they love another" - Marilyn Manson "I don't really miss God, but I sure do miss Santa Clause" Courtney Love - "Gutless" From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Is this really Andrew? Yeah, that's Andrew, but I'm convinced the moustache IS drawn on him! That pic was taken from the Swing era; look at that album cover and you'll think it was the same photo shoot (but they're all in different clothing; I checked). But on the Swing, Andrew has the same hairstyle, but no facial hair. From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc Hi Neil, Well i don't agree with you on the lead singer issue, i was never into the female singer idea, it would really seem odd, it wouldn't feel like INXS again, and i have to say that Jon Stevens is doing a great job in my opinion, he fits the band and i don't think he trys to look like Michael, but anyone who sings INXS tunes will look like Michael in some way, after all it's his songs, except of course for TTD who i really disliked as the INXS singer, the songs sounded terrible, i couldn't really listen to them more than twice. And i have to say that after listening to hungry and sugar/funkster over and over again, i really think they are moving on, can you include any of the songs in any INXS album so far? I don't think so, in fact hungry is the best song i've heard recently. Just had to tell you guys my opinion, i hope i can finally see them live, i am waiting for 12 years. Take care, Pedro From: "John A. Vink" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:16 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? I think for a very short period of time, Andrew did have facial hair. I have a different poster that shows him with the same kind of facial hair. He didn't have it for the Swing cover, but probably had it some time after that, and then shaved it real soon. JAV From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? He had a full grown beard during the April 94 Dirty Honeymoon Tour. From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? Thanks for your answers. I think I like the way he looks better without it! Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: INXS: Aaaahh there is stil some signs of life out there!! Hello again everyone nice to see some activity, however I'm really shocked at the lack of numbers/apathy still. Seems that either those just reading mails are now outnumbering those who actually send, or the list is now down to just a handful of you guys. V sad :-( Who would have thunk it back in 1990 that the interest would be sooooooooooo low by now. Never mind, I've always been talking to myself where INXS have been concerned (where Michael was concerned was another matter :-)), they have never been the "in" thing where I live/among my friends. Well, going back to my last mail subjects :- Bands you are now into - I was really hoping you guys would clue me in on new NATIVE bands you were into and why, not new bands in general that you like, ie if you are French tell me about the best of new French talent etc. Jon Stevens - I agree with Brian on the subject of Jon Stevens and how well he fits the band and believe also he should be truely judged on the future new material. However if it turns out he is just the vocal puppet and has no real songwriting input to the future of INXS, then I beleive it will be a big mistake, and that he will be just going through the motions. The only way forward is for the band is to give the guy (who they believe to be the ideal replacement they want for Michael) the full opportunity to stamp his own identity on the band. It may nop please the die-hards but it really is the only honest way forward. I think this mentality is where they were going with TTD because his vocal style alone was enough to stamp it's identity on the band's sound, which I thought then and still do now, sounded really exciting, and was sorry it didn't go any further. The TTD debate - I love his solo stuff so maybe I am a little biased, but tracks of his like She Kissed Me, show he can really rock and his voice can be really raw and exciting to hear. In fact his less well known stuff is really the most appealing to me. As for personality maybe he is a little too full on and less charming as Michael was, so I think that may have freaked people a little. All the same it didn't happen and so we move on. Vocalists I would have liked to have seen try out for the job - don't ask me why, but I have this strange feeling that Sheryl Crow would sound excellent fronting the band, there is something about her vocal style/range that I think would make INXS songs sound almost new. Another would be Gary Cherrone (former Extreme and Van Halen vocalist). Love and peace and flowers Jim From: "Cherie" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 6:18 AM Subject: INXS: Jon Stevens and more info. Hey there, If anyone out there is interested in finding out more information on Jon Stevens and his previous band Noiseworks, then check out the official noiseworks website at www.noiseworks.com.au I run this site, so if you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask me :) Jon also has a web site dedicated to himself at www.areusatisfied.com.au (which I also run), but for some reason it is down, so please try back a bit later for that one. TTD had a fantastic voice, just think "Sign your name", but he just wasnt suited to INXS's style. Take care Cherie From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Jon Stevens and more info. Hi Cherie thanks for the Jon/Noiseworks details. I'll check out the sites, and the sounds pre-INXS too (if any). Once again I'd like to re-iterate, I am 110% behind Jon, now that he's in the band, and have only admiration for him in taking over and living in the shoes of a hero of mine. He looks and sounds great, comfortable and in control of the stage, and most importantly having fun, from the little I've seen of his performances with the band. The new material is going to be the key. On a lighter note still, who else would love to see this bill doing the world tour thang next year, sources tell me all are definate possibilites for/or are already on, world tours of their own :- Duran Duran (reunion and new stuff, nuff said) INXS (of course) Simple Minds (looking like they have got back to their best) Spandau Ballet (rumoured reunion/album) Fill in the rest yourselves, this would be enough for me :-) What a line up that would be for a stadium tour!!??!! Jim From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc hey, thanks Niel!! Great group, I just joined it. Question, those other MP3s that are up, are those from the upcoming re-releases? Im ashamed that I dont know LOL ~Jennifer PS...has anyone had one of those days that they just REALLY miss Michael, even though they never met him? Im know it sounds strange, but I just really miss him lately LOL From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Don't Change, lead singers, etc Yes -- they are all from the upcoming releases -- and there's plenty more (or so I hear...) on kazaa and winmx (peer to peer file transfer programs) Cheers, -neil From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: RE: INXS: one of those days In a message dated 8/14/02 1:47:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Jjtough@aol.com writes: > PS...has anyone had one of those days that they just REALLY miss Michael, > even though they never met him? Im know it sounds strange, but I just > really miss him lately I feel that way sometimes, although I was fortunate enought to get to meet him once before he left us. Its a lonely feeling & when it happens I break out the CD's and listen to his voice. At least we will always have that. Sue From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Jon Stevens and more info. In a message dated 8/14/02 9:17:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Jimavfc@aol.com writes: > On a lighter note still, who else would love to see this bill doing the > world tour thang next year, sources tell me all are definate possibilites > for/or are already on, world tours of their own :- > > Duran Duran (reunion and new stuff, nuff said) > INXS (of course) > Simple Minds (looking like they have got back to their best) > Spandau Ballet (rumoured reunion/album) > Fill in the rest yourselves, this would be enough for me :-) > > What a line up that would be for a stadium tour!!??!! > If you enjoy stadium show, it would be great. Personally I enjoyed seeing > INXS in the Celebrity Theater here in PHX. The small venue made it one of > the best concerts I have ever been to bar none!! I would MUCH rather see > the guys in a small venue again!! ? Sue From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:40 PM Subject: RE: INXS: one of those days :( i miss michael every day. i never met michael. i never was a fan of michael when he was alive, so i guess it's pretty hard to imagine how i could possibly miss him. but i feel like i have some sort of weird connection to him spititually. and i felt a great deal of sadness when i first listened to his music, even though i didn't know much about him as a person or as INXS as a band. there has to be something more than what meets the eye. how does a regular 12 year old girl discover michael hutchence and fall in-love with INXS all of a sudden for no reason? yes, i wish michael were still alive... but i ask myself, if he was, would he be happy? i tend to not think so. i think he was unhappy for a very long time... *sigh* -erica "See, there is a great misconception. And I think it's men who make it so. Because men are so sensitive about their masculinity and their balls and their dicks. They tend to think in terms of once you have a child that you're emasculated and are thrown into the kitchen and you're now useless as an entity. That's crap, you know. That really is crap. If you can't do both, I mean if you want to be a man, try to go to Pizza Hut with seven kids for three hours for lunch. Then we'll see who is a man!" - Michael Hutchence From: "Francisco Ruiz" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: INXS: Please erase my e-mail from this mail list. From: "Heather Heiler" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: INXS: Responses to several questions... Hi Everyone! This is my first time posting a message, but my dad is a long time member of the group. In response to several of the questions/opinions posted, I have my own feelings on several of the topics... I drove up to Connecticut a few weeks ago to see INXS at the Foxwoods resort. Not only was I given the opportunity to go backstage and meet the band (special thanks to one of the sweetest people I've ever met!), but if anyone was there, I was the girl who got onstage to sing part of "Don't Change" with Jon Stevens. That had special meaning to me, because it was almost 20 years ago that my Dad came home from a Kinks concert to tell me that he just saw the most amazing band ever - and it wasn't the Kinks, it was INXS! (Now mind you, I was in 3rd grade and it was way past my bedtime!) "Don't Change" was the song that Michael was singing when he was provoked by an audience member, so he threw down the microphone and dove into the audience after the guy! While at the Foxwoods, my Dad spoke to each of the band members, and they all remembered that night! Well, anyway, that night was like a dream come true! I spoke with all of the members of the band (except for Jon F), and nowhere could you find a more down-to-earth, friendly, genuine group of guys. When I spoke to Jon, I told him exactly how I felt - he is not a replacement for Michael Hutchence, he is a welcome addition to the most incredible group of musicians I've ever heard. He told me that he is not trying to replace Michael - no one could replace him. What a lot of people don't realize is how good of friends he and Michael were. He is his own person with who brought his own identity to INXS. If you want to put him under the microscope, I'm sure some of his mannerisms, the way he hits certain notes, etc... can be said to mimic Michael. If you look for anything hard enough, your going to find it. Maybe we could all accept Jon for what he is - an addition, not a replacement. If he's good enough for Tim, Andrew, Jon, Kirk, & Garry, he sure as hell is good enough for me! And to Neil, you have been a fan forever, and although I don't agree with you, I certainly do respect you and your opinion. (I think you may have been just a teensy bit harsh, but none-the-less, you have a right to feel the way you do.) I've been a fan since my Dad came home that night, and I was probably one of the biggest Hutch fans ever. I was convinced as a little girl that I was going to grow up and marry the man! So, I'm not forgetting about Michael, but there are still 5 original members of the band that would be wasting their talents if they didn't carry on, and that's exactly what they are doing. I feel that Jon gives 110% when he's on stage and I hope he decides to stay with them for the long haul. OK - next topic (and I'll make it shorter): what vocalist would I choose? Hmm, that's a tough one. I wasn't too familiar with Jon S before this year, so I won't say him. On impulse, I would have to say Bono, because I am also a U2 fan. My 9 month old son loves both INXS and U2 (he dances to them, and he tries to sing!), and he was born to "Stuck in a Moment" which was written about Michael - how ironic! However, there are a few artists out there with unique voices that I think would do be really good- Jeffrey Gaines or Ed Kowalczyk of Live would be 2 of them. On the TTD - I was never really a big fan of his, and I'm glad that his stint was a short term thing. (No offense to the TTD fans out there!) On the poster with Andrew and the mustache - I had that same poster hanging in my room growing up, but when I try to think if he had a mustache or not, I draw a blank! I'll have to check and see, but I'm pretty sure he did. Thanks to all for letting me get all of that off my chest! Love & Peace, Heather From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? Yes, Andrew had a mustache!! I have several photos from a shoot they did in Tokyo in 1984 and I think a vinyl single cover where he is wearing one. It looks pretty silly since he has a baby face, not a mustache face! Leah On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:04:28 +0000 Deirdre Jennette writes: > Rosemarie, > > Yes that is really Andrew LOL! From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:21:25 -0500 Brian the Rice writes: > He had a full grown beard during the April 94 Dirty Honeymoon Tour. Don't you mean the no soap, no razor tour? LOL!! L. From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Responses to several questions... Hi Everyone, It really is a great feeling to log on and see a post by my daughter,though we are only 50 miles apart we remain very close and converse frequently about many issues besides my grandson (Zach),INXS being one of them as she has been a huge fan since she went with us to the Listen Like Thieves Tour. When I told here the list was getting active again but I needed more time to consider my response,I guess she had her thoughts in order,I believe she has done an accurate job in her post to let me sail in her opinion.Neil my thoughts exactly,you really do deserve your opinion and I admire your candor!! As for what am I listening to. You have to be ready for Bruce and nothing less,I guess it is where we live,personally I decided to back up a notch and start my Lennon collection over again.Till next Time Take Care & God Bless!! Love & Peace, Bonnie & Joe From: "Dagette Dillon" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Aaaahh there is stil some signs of life out there!! Hi everyone, hehe looks like my just reading time has come to a stop ... just wanna prove I'm still a HUGE INXS fan :O} I loved Michael like I think we all did but INXS is the whole band:O} ATM I've gotten in to Darren Hayes here in OZ ..u remember him the guy who was the lead singer for Savage Garden??? Yeah well hes here about to start a solo tour ...his CD Spin is pretty kewl I have to admit :O} Jon Stevens : I first saw Jon when he became popular with the band Noiseworks here I loved them they where very they came out about the same time as alot of other aussie bands like Boom Crash Opera & Icehouse even (they where out abit earlier but very popular then also) I think Jon fits the band really well .... :O} TTD: I liked him wasn't fussed when he fronted INXS though just didn't seem to be quite right in my own opinion :O} But still a great peformer :O} Other Vocalists ummm I wondered if Jenny Morris would of ever lead the guys? considering she was a backing singer with them and all I always thought her and Michael went well together:O} Susie DeMarchie from the Baby Animals was also mentioned she would of been pretty kewl I reckon!!! Well theres my 5cents worth lol yeah I know its alot considering how long since I posted last :O{ Sorry I will try to drop in once & a while HUGGLES Lisa From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:13 AM Subject: INXS: Treading water? Heather wrote: > And to Neil, you have been a fan forever, and although I don't > agree with you, I certainly do respect you and your opinion. > (I think you may have been just a teensy bit harsh, but > none-the-less, you have a right to feel the way you do.) ...and then Bonnie & Joe wrote: > Neil my thoughts > exactly,you really do deserve your opinion and I admire your candor!! OK, I admit I was being a little harsh. But my overall feeling doesn't change -- INXS reached its creative peak with "Welcome to Wherever You Are" -- an enduring 90's classic. After that, they sort of lost something. I know many people like FMDH a lot, but it has always struck me as INXS trying to fit into the 90's grunge scene and failing. (OK, there are a couple great songs on that album, but I'm talking the album as a whole.) Then they disappeared for a few years and when EW came out, everyone except us diehards was gone. Granted, I love the 2nd half of EW -- it's experimental and trippy... But of course they ended up releasing the more mainstream stuff on the 1st half of the album (shrug). Then after Michael's tragic death, I really hoped the band would sit down and realize that they hadn't done anything *great* since 1992 -- they were simply retreading the same styles they've been using for decades. Looks like they decided to go the "safe" route -- which is perfectly okay of course, but I can't help but feel a little disappointed. Whereas artists like Bjork continue to innovate and expand their sound, getting better and better with each successive album, INXS seems to be okay with merely treading water. Fair enough I guess, but I can't help but wish it had been otherwise. -neil From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:27 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Treading water? >Looks like they decided to go the "safe" route -- which is > perfectly okay of course, but I can't help but feel a little > disappointed. Whereas artists like Bjork continue to innovate and > expand their sound, getting better and better with each successive > album, INXS seems to be okay with merely treading water. Fair enough I > guess, but I can't help but wish it had been otherwise. > Who knows, maybe they want to establish more of a comfort zone with Jon Stevens before getting back to the experimental thing. Okay, sure, they've been playing with him for two years now, so maybe their so-called training wheels should be taken off, but this past South America-U.S. tour was really their first full on extended tour with him, as opposed to the quickie tours in Australia and Europe. But it really hinges on how much they let him have creative input on new material, or if he'll get lost in the mix of the other members finally getting the chance to contribute their own ideas before his. And yes, the two new songs don't stray very far at all from that classic-INXS sound, but they're still very good for that. What was it U2's Larry Mullen Jr said regarding Bono's comment that "Beautiful Day" sounded too much like, well, "U2"? Something like, "Well, what's wrong with that? We've been honing that sound for 20 years. It's a great sound" Granted that's paraphrased and probably not exact, but the attitude behind it holds true here, too. Actually, Hungry sounds more pre-Kick, maybe Shabooh Shoobah or Listen Like Thieves, so maybe that helps it stand in better light with the older fans. Reminds me of "Soul Mistake". If anyone's seen the Argentina show online, he hits a falsetto in that song a couple times that's really awesome. He didn't do it when I saw them in St Louis, which was too bad, but that was different from Hutch, so I think that's evidence of him doing his thing. By the way, Neil, did you get the chance to see them play on this last tour? From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:40 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Treading water? * After that, they sort of lost > something. I know many people like FMDH a lot, but it has always struck > me as INXS trying to fit into the 90's grunge scene and failing. (OK, > there are a couple great songs on that album, but I'm talking the album > as a whole.) Ah, I remember the FMDH debates well...I don't think the music on that album was an attempt at grunge, so much as the "image" they tried to put out, with the album cover and their look, etc. Tim and Hutch appeared on Alternative Nation to promote it, and Tim said he wanted INXS to be the biggest alternative band in the world, then looked sheepishly at the camera and said, "Whatever that means!". Don't know if that was a joke, but if so, I couldn't help but think that by that point, INXS was in no way an "alternative" act like they could claim before Kick. Anyway, the title track is DEFINITELY one of the greatest INXS songs ever recorded. The only downside is that the guitar solo is too short, and should have been doubled in length. In fact, Kirk did play an extended solo of it live during their 94 tour. Chrissy Hinde melded seamlessly with Hutch's vocals on that. (It even got me into the Pretenders, whose 94 album Last of the Independents was great.) It's a shame that was never a single. I think Freedom Deep, Cut Your Roses, Kill the Pain, and Time are all great tracks. Please, with Ray Charles, was okay...but...I dunno, not great by any means. But overall, the album didn't get a fair shake in the U.S. It's always puzzled me how INXS got sort of lost in the shuffle in the early 90s. It's easy to lay the blame on Seattle and grunge, and Kurt Cobain, blah blah...But U2 of course maintained their popularity with Achtung Baby, the Zoo TV tour, and Zooropa, Depeche Mode hti #1 in 94 with Songs of Faith and Devotion, and even Duran Duran had a comeback in 93 with Ordinary World and Come Undone. All contemporaries of INXS, and all who enjoyed massive success in the 80s. I always felt INXS was very much an amalgamation of all those bands, incorporating elements of each band into their own sound, but inspite of that, they were left behind by the public by 92 or 93. Gotta wonder what gives. From: "Angusted" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Responses to several questions... G'day Heather >He told me that he is not trying to replace Michael - no >one could replace him. What a lot of people don't >realize is how good of friends he and Michael were. He >is his own person with who brought his own identity to >INXS. Sounds pretty cool mate. Jon b'n Noiseworks singer, their've b'n round bout as long as INXS, have'nt they?? Ta me it's just like Brian tack'n over from BON, simpley it's just another singer with tha still tha same musicians. ROCKON Angusted From: "Angusted" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: INXS: USA cd G'day Still hunt'n down info bout tha new oct INXS cd(1 or 2 of em??) This arvo went inta this 'big' music shop JB's, full of imports'n all. They'd got their hands on what they said was a double USA cd(it's not tha new 1, but sumthin' i have'nt c'n b4) called, INXS Shine Like It Does tha Anthology (1979-1997) Looks kinda like a greatest hits sort of cd. It's got 42 tracks, singles'n remix's of them yrs. INVAIN Angusted From: "Chris Cyre" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: INXS: version of NTUA Old news I'm sure, but did any of you hear the Tom Jones/Natalie Imbruglia version of this song? What a strange combo. --- Tony Doreika wrote: > Well gang, > Yes indeed, the list has been quiet for some time > now........for all > interested, Joe Cocker just released a new album > with Never Tear Us Apart as > a cover. NOT BAD!!!! I was seemingly impressed > with his redo of this song. > It apparently meant something to him as well, > perhaps his own tribute to MH > in his own way. Now of course, one has to have a > unique ear to listen to > Joe Cocker, but I've enjoyed following him over the > years! Check out the > album 'teasers' at amazon.com or > cdnow.com..........the albums title is > 'Respect Yourself' and it was just released within > the past month. (Many > thanks to Neil, who originally mentioned this CD > several weeks ago) > Love & Peace, > Tony D. > > > ===== "- seek and ye shall find" From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: INXS: Hungry * -----Original Message----- > From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@comcast.net] > > Who knows, maybe they want to establish more of a comfort > zone with Jon Stevens before getting back to the experimental > thing. Ya think? Even though all the members of the band have dabbled and experimented in other genres (think Tim's wondrous "In My Living Room"), it was Michael who increasingly became more and more restless during the 90's because things were so stagnant in the band. Yes, he was clearly going through a lot in his personal life as well, but he often spoke about wanting to take the band in new directions and sounds... > And yes, the two new songs don't stray very far at all from > that classic-INXS sound, but they're still very good for > that. What was it U2's Larry Mullen Jr said regarding Bono's > comment that "Beautiful Day" sounded too much like, well, "U2"? I think the reason U2 scored so well with Beautiful Day is because it came after such different albums for them (Zooropa and Pop). They pushed their personal envelope to the brink, showing that their bold reinvention with Achtung was simply the first step in a big change. INXS took that first step with Welcome, but then fell backwards with FMDH into mediocrity. I know that a lot of people don't ever want INXS to change and would love them to keep doing what's made them great for so many years. I understand that, and it's perfectly valid. I'm just not one of them. Of course I love my 80's bands but I haven't remained stuck there. My musical tastes have matured and widened with age, and I just can't get excited by my favorite band doing "the same old thing" year after year. > By the way, Neil, did you get the chance to see them play on > this last tour? Heh, yes I suppose I never chimed in with my review of the tour... I saw them in New York, and of course enjoyed the show immensely. Songs like "Original Sin" sounded tighter than ever, and the boys definitely had a new spring in their step being on stage. That said, though, I mostly felt like I was in a time warp watching my favorite band growing up doing the exact same thing so many years later. The moves were the same, the way the played most of the songs was the same... and sorry, but Jon Stevens just didn't really make a strong impression on me. So overall, I have mixed feelings about the tour -- just being honest. > Anyway, the title track is DEFINITELY one of the greatest > INXS songs ever recorded. The only downside is that the > guitar solo is too short, and should have been doubled in > length. In fact, Kirk did play an extended solo of it live > during their 94 tour. Chrissy Hinde melded seamlessly with > Hutch's vocals on that. We are definitely in agreement here Brian -- FMDH (the song) is a real treasure in the INXS canon -- a really wonderful example of blues melding perfectly with rock. It *definitely* should have a single, over the poor Please (You Got That...) and the uninspiring Freedom Deep. For that matter, even Time was a poor choice -- it was just the same old same old INXS song we didn't need to hear anymore. The Gift at least brought a new and heavier sound to the canon (hmm... something new something new! neil's theme of the week.) > All contemporaries of INXS, > and all who enjoyed massive success in the 80s. I always felt > INXS was very much an amalgamation of all those bands, > incorporating elements of each band into their own sound, but > inspite of that, they were left behind by the public by 92 or > 93. Gotta wonder what gives. It happens. Not every amazing act is able to survive at the top of the heap. We've all analyzed their fall from grace in the mid 90's to death, so no need to retread there. Some 90s bands of absolute genius like Catherine Wheel never even got close, which I still can't fathom... -neil From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Hungry * Ya think? Even though all the members of the band have dabbled and > experimented in other genres (think Tim's wondrous "In My Living Room"), > it was Michael who increasingly became more and more restless during the > 90's because things were so stagnant in the band. Yes, he was clearly > going through a lot in his personal life as well, but he often spoke > about wanting to take the band in new directions and sounds... > I think the reason U2 scored so well with Beautiful Day is because it > came after such different albums for them (Zooropa and Pop). They > pushed their personal envelope to the brink, showing that their bold > reinvention with Achtung was simply the first step in a big change. > INXS took that first step with Welcome, but then fell backwards with > FMDH into mediocrity. > > I know that a lot of people don't ever want INXS to change and would > love them to keep doing what's made them great for so many years. I > understand that, and it's perfectly valid. I'm just not one of them. > Of course I love my 80's bands but I haven't remained stuck there. My > musical tastes have matured and widened with age, and I just can't get > excited by my favorite band doing "the same old thing" year after year. Don't get me wrong; I like their experimental stuff just as much as anyone. While I'll never reconcile myself towards that album cover, Welcome is definitely a golden album. I remember arguing that they should just release the standard sounding songs as singles to draw people in to the wild stuff on the albums, but that obviously didn't help Elegantly Wasted's sales. Two of my favorite tracks are She is Rising and Thrown Together, but I don't know if those were radio friendly by any means. > Heh, yes I suppose I never chimed in with my review of the tour... I saw > them in New York, and of course enjoyed the show immensely. Songs like > "Original Sin" sounded tighter than ever, and the boys definitely had a > new spring in their step being on stage. That said, though, I mostly > felt like I was in a time warp watching my favorite band growing up > doing the exact same thing so many years later. The moves were the > same, the way the played most of the songs was the same... and sorry, > but Jon Stevens just didn't really make a strong impression on me. So > overall, I have mixed feelings about the tour -- just being honest. Like I said, it really hinges on what kind of new material they record with him, and how much of a contribution he'll make. I'm assuming they must be working on some new material at this point, since they seemed to indicate that on the tour when Jon S would introduce one of the new songs. The key is, is he really a full-fledged member of the band in his own right, coming up with his own ideas for songs and writing his own lyrics, or is he just the mouth-piece, reciting what Andrew lays down in front of him? > The Gift at least > brought a new and heavier sound to the canon (hmm... something new > something new! neil's theme of the week.) > Great video, too. I guess that won an award in Australia, but in America it was like they aired it twice then nothing. Maybe that single's lack of success made the band think they had to stick to standards. From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Hungry FMDH was BETTER than WTWYA, in my opinion. Fists of Fury Eric Reed nkoth@yahoo.com wrote: INXS took that first step with Welcome, but then fell backwards with FMDH into mediocrity. why would anyone ever want to bring you down? you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high From: To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... In a message dated 8/15/02 7:52:05 PM, showbizkid@webtv.net writes: << Some pretty interesting point-counterpoint discussions going on here,let me throw a curve ball into the mix,I have seen the WHO a dozen times in concert but not since they retired in 1982,somehow every few years they come up with an excuse to go on tour and rough up the wallet a bit like $100 for the cheap seats I know because a lot of my friends which have matured taste wise musically will still go and see them yet they have not put forth any new WHO music for 20 yrs,one of the founding members dies, they postpone 2 dates and proceed with the show now that is a real class act!! (IT SUCKS) >> The fact is, devastated as the band members and crew/tour personnel was, it was not unknown to all that John had a heart problem. Sadly, John was not taking as good care of himself as necessary - staying away from cocaine might have been a good idea (!) Arrangements had already been made and kept on the back burner for Pino to step in on bass if necessary. The band and their entire touring entourage had already arrived in the United States when John's untimely and unfortunate death occurred the evening before the tour was to start in Las Vegas. Bear in mind John had been a friend of Pete, Roger and all those connected with that tour for well over 30 years and it was not a choice made lightly to go on. This was not an event taken lightly by any means, but a very complicated situation. Difficult as the decision to continue the tour was, the choice made by the Who and management also reflected the financial impact canceling the tour would have had on all those whose salaries depended on working. If this huge tour of North America had been canceled, a lot of people would have been out money they were counting on earning. They would have had to fly back to their homes in the UK without earning the income promised. On that side of the equation, the tour continuing was not necessarily all about the greed of the Who. The high ticket prices (in Los Angeles, $500+ for first few rows) is another story entirely... Happiest of birthdays to our darling friend Timmy. From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: INXS: version of NTUA forgot about that one. Also excellent. I'm also a fan of his (elsewhere recorded) Kiss w/ Art of Noise. > The best song on that CD is "Burning down the house". That song rocks! > > JAV > > On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 07:09 PM, Nanci Lamb Roider wrote: > >> On that album, I much prefer Tom doing "Little Green Bag" with BNL. We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "John A. Vink" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: Re: INXS: version of NTUA The best song on that CD is "Burning down the house". That song rocks! JAV On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 07:09 PM, Nanci Lamb Roider wrote: > On that album, I much prefer Tom doing "Little Green Bag" with BNL. > --- John A. Vink Senior Software Engineer Apple Computer, Inc. mailto:vink@apple.com http://www.javworld.com "I like my PowerBooks like my head - made with Titanium!" From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Hungry yes, viking juice is GREAT! the rhythm track alone is fantastic. I agree with statement about the first few tracks of WTWYA, with the exception of all around, which I find to be a filler track. however, I do like baby don't cry (although a bit repetitious) and beautiful girl has to be one of their best songs ever! and men & women...I think that is the most underrated INXS song! some of the best words michael ever wrote, plus certainly some of the best MUSIC he ever wrote (COMPOSED solely by him)! it's interesting to listen to it and pick apart the music, finding each INXS members' part within all of the orchestration. a perfect ending! Jimavfc@aol.com wrote:Sorry guys and gals, but I think FMDH the track is pure dull dull dull music by numbers. As for the rest of the album, am I the only person who considers Viking Juice to be totally inspired and original in the extreme with groove. I can listen to that track over and over and over and.... But, the opening salvo of Questions Communication Taste It Not Enough Time - the greates INXS balled ever All Around make WTWYA the tops in my book. Though I'm not a big fan of Baby Don't Cry, and Beautiful Girl I think the album takes off again after those, and only suffers because of the track Men & Women, which I think is dross, and self indulgent. Jim In a message dated Thu, 15 Aug 2002 9:34:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, LuvNPce99 writes: > > > skippythefrog@yahoo.com writes: > > > FMDH was BETTER than WTWYA, in my opinion. > > Fists of Fury Eric Reed > > > > I agree with you 100% reed! > > Love & Peace - Rosemarie > > -- From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: RE: INXS: FMDH !!! heaven sent is great! Fists of Fury Eric Reed Jimavfc@aol.com wrote: By the way, I hadn't forgotten about Heaven Sent being the 2nd track on WTWYA, though I wish I could, YUK!!!! In a message dated Fri, 16 Aug 2002 4:10:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jimavfc writes: > > > Sorry guys and gals, but I think FMDH the track is pure dull dull dull music by numbers. As for the rest of the album, am I the only person who considers Viking Juice to be totally inspired and original in the extreme with groove. I can listen to that track over and over and over and.... > > But, the opening salvo of > Questions > Communication > Taste It > Not Enough Time - the greates INXS balled ever > All Around > make WTWYA the tops in my book. Though I'm not a big fan of Baby Don't Cry, and Beautiful Girl I think the album takes off again after those, and only suffers because of the track Men & Women, which I think is dross, and self indulgent. > > Jim > > In a message dated Thu, 15 Aug 2002 9:34:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, LuvNPce99 writes: > > > > > > > skippythefrog@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > FMDH was BETTER than WTWYA, in my opinion. > > > Fists of Fury Eric Reed > > > > > > > I agree with you 100% reed! > > > > Love & Peace - Rosemarie > > From: To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... In a message dated 8/16/02 12:26:32 PM, showbizkid@webtv.net writes: << Thanks for the insight,however that is why contracts carry insurance clauses,which I believe are standard in the industry,and it fails to answer the question why the almighty WHO have some sort of writers block,no and I mean zero new music for 20 yrs and still charge astronomical fees to see the same songs played over & over at least INXS played 2 new songs,and in most venues a shirt price was equal to that of admission.Till next time!! >> In the most technical sense, no new music in 20 years isn't true. The three of them (TED) performed two new tracks on Pete Townshend's solo lp "Iron Man" - and also performed "Saturday Night's All Right For Fighting" on "Two Rooms", the Elton John tribute. Whether I or anyone else feels no new music calls for a tour or not does not change the simple reality that people still go to see them. The writer's block and desire not to record new music - you can blame Pete Townshend for that. Roger and John wanted to work as the Who. Pete did not. Without him - no Who. Ticket prices and the sizes of the venues they are able to play whether they release new music or not - well - you can lay that blame at the feet of the audience who creates the demand. If the Who were not able to support ticket sales in large venues, they would be playing clubs - but they are not playing clubs...Whether I like it or not, The Who seem to be free to price their tickets in line with audience demand, no matter how outrageous. My opinion on the ticket and merchandise prices has no impact whatsoever on the drawing power of the Who. It is what it is - they still have the ability to play four nights straight at Madison Square Garden, new music releases or not. I wish INXS received similar adulation. It would have been nice to see them get the bigger audiences they so deserved on this last tour. I went out to see INXS this summer (and The Who, by the way) - where was everyone else? Perhaps Who fans have a longer memory than INXS fans...at least the Who fans get out there and support the band. From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Speaking of Tom Jones... when I saw INXS in san diego in 91, they actually opened with what's new pussycat, another tom jones song :) Fists of Fury Eric Reed --- Michael & Sherrianne Talon wrote: > Yeah they certainly are, if you believe one of the interviews in one > of > the INXS books or whatever, Tom Jones was at one of the gigs on the X > > tour and the band were planning to do a cover of one of his tunes > (Maybe > not "It's Not Unusual") but at the last moment Michael chickened out, > > even though by the bands own account they we're quite capable of a > pretty spiffy cover of the tune. As far as you can tell on the end > of > LBL Michael does a brilliant job, his singing reminds me of another > INXS > cover interesingly....The Loved One '91 Wembley. > > Michael Kick Talon > > Erinxs@aol.com wrote: > > >I have a question. > >At the end of Live Baby Live, is the band singing a cover of "It's > Not > >Unusual"? > > > > > > > > > ===== why would anyone ever want to bring you down? you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:32 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Heaven Sent. I always used to think of Heaven Sent as the serial killer song, it's got that touch of sinister in it, thanks greatly to the distorted guitar and Michael's vocal take. Unfortunately probably the best part of the song is underused.......the intro.......the contrast on the album as you are listening to Questions fade and then are suddenly overpowered by the rythmical attack of highend distortion. The catchy bass+guitar rif in the chorus, which is basically in the low E minor I think, probably creates too much of a groove for a picky inxs or a noninxs fan. If this song were produced by Chris Thomas instead of Mark Opitz, I think you would find that the intro standing alone would be used as a bridge in further parts of the song......rather then simply underpinning the rest of the song as it does conjunctively with the other instruments dialled to '11'. The use of a voice over on Michael's voice.....which seems as much preverb as reverb also takes the song away from the distinctive INXS sound and mix that you have on the Kick and X albums. As I have mentioned previously the tinkering for the sake of freshness was probably overdone in this song's case. The voice over led to a strange occurence on my grand mothers stereo LOL......they have a modern stereo with modern speakers however they also have additional speakers built in the 50's connected with some very long archaic wiring.........the result was eerie, and to to give you an idea of the sound I guess you could call it the accidental ghost mix. Anyways, this song is underrated, when you look at all the other music out there that charts it makes you wonder, but this song shouldn't be compared with some of those jingles anyway. Michael Kick Talon From: To: Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... Great points you have put forth,a true WHO fan you are Congrats to you!! Each and every bit of info you produced has been hashed out a dozen times, at least with friends who like yourself have undying loyalty.I won't hold you technicalities but something new would have been the only ingredient missing,that coming from friends who have seen them 50 to 100 times since the early 70's and have just seen them a few times on the right coast trip. Now my point,which I guess I really never nailed down,I went to a few INXS shows this past tour as I have for everyone from 83 on for a few reasons,I always thought they were one of the tightest bands live I have ever heard (seen),usually in support of new music and also out of curiosity with a new lead singer,3 good reasons...the 2 new songs were a treat. That being said if and when they hit the states again it better be with a new album,cause the loyalty base has dwindled.This past tour I hope is a warm-up for better things to come.Till next time I'll catch you on the 515 (lol) Love & Peace, Bonnie & Joe (although she remains neutral on the WHO) From: "Leah Sungenis" To: ; ; ; Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: INXS: Don't Change, or Change? Hi all, I've been thinking about what someone said about INXS staying INXS and not moving forward or changing their style. As a musician myself, I'm not sure I really see how any musician can change their style. There are times when rock musicians come out with albums different from others they've done, but each musician intrinsically has her/his own style that rings through in all their music . People didn't complain when Beethoven's 9th sounded like the Beethoven style of the 5th symphony. Most people don't even think about how hard it is to make more than one album in the rock world. Most bands are one hit wonders, as in one song. The next largest group makes one good album. Few bands produce two to four good albums. Only a very rare few make ten or twenty good albums. You can basically count them on the fingers of your hands. And that is out of tens of thousands of rock bands that have formed and died since the 1960s. This puts INXS in a very tiny group of incredibly successful rock musicians. INXS still sounds like INXS, yes. As well they should. I don't want them to sound like someone else. Their music is so classic that it is still fresh after all these years, and they have breathed new life into their stage show after their five year hiatus. There are so many bands today that can barely play their instruments, and who never have an original idea--they wind up copying someone else and making some money and disappearing. They only have any success because there is such a paucity of really good rock music anymore. Rock is nearly dead. It makes me that much more grateful for INXS. Cheerio, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... * > I wish INXS received similar adulation. It would have > been nice to see them > get the bigger audiences they so deserved on this last > tour. I went out to > see INXS this summer (and The Who, by the way) - where > was everyone else? > > Perhaps Who fans have a longer memory than INXS > fans...at least the Who fans > get out there and support the band. > The tour was supposed to be low key-I asked, because I was all sent to be royally p**sed that they were being ignored by the media. It was supposed to start building support for next time. I know there were a TON of people who had no idea they were touring, so if there is the slightest bit of publicity next time they'll be packing them in. Having said that, I can think of a couple shows that had decent crowds. Chicago was basically sold out, as was Konocti Resort in Kelseyville. Saratoga wasn't sold out, but it was 3/4 there-El Rey was about the same, I think. Memphis and Foxwoods were pretty empty-the casinos didn't do much, if any, promotion. Hampton Beach wasn't full, but the crowd was enthusiastic. (That's my favorite show, by the way-OMG, it rocked! I'm surprised the venue was still standing!!) Cathy.mn.....still going thru withdrawal... From: "Heather Heiler" To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, or Change? Wow - I couldn't have said it better myself!!! Leah Sungenis wrote:Hi all, I've been thinking about what someone said about INXS staying INXS and not moving forward or changing their style. As a musician myself, I'm not sure I really see how any musician can change their style. There are times when rock musicians come out with albums different from others they've done, but each musician intrinsically has her/his own style that rings through in all their music . People didn't complain when Beethoven's 9th sounded like the Beethoven style of the 5th symphony. Most people don't even think about how hard it is to make more than one album in the rock world. Most bands are one hit wonders, as in one song. The next largest group makes one good album. Few bands produce two to four good albums. Only a very rare few make ten or twenty good albums. You can basically count them on the fingers of your hands. And that is out of tens of thousands of rock bands that have formed and died since the 1960s. This puts INXS in a very tiny group of incredibly successful rock musicians. INXS still sounds like INXS, yes. As well they should. I don't want them to sound like someone else. Their music is so classic that it is still fresh after all these years, and they have breathed new life into their stage show after their five year hiatus. There are so many bands today that can barely play their instruments, and who never have an original idea--they wind up copying someone else and making some money and disappearing. They only have any success because there is such a paucity of really good rock music anymore. Rock is nearly dead. It makes me that much more grateful for INXS. Cheerio, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com Love & Peace, Heather From: "Tony Doreika" To: "INXS List" Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: INXS: INXS and the WHO rough up the wallet a bit like $100 for the cheap seats I know because a lot of my friends which have matured taste wise musically will still go and see them yet they have not put forth any new WHO music for 20 yrs,one of the founding members dies, they postpone 2 dates and proceed with the show now that is a real class act!! (IT SUCKS) These comments are treated with respect of your opinion, but let me tell you, those of us WHO fans only paid $46 just last month for good seats here in Boston, and enjoyed a great sold out show of classics!! :) In addition, just the month before the WHO show, we paid $30 for a middle-of -the-road performance in New Hampshire by INXS! (Now THAT sucks too!) We had hopes of seeing a great show (as in the past ) but were let down by one of our favorite bands who sounded like they were at rehearsal! IMHO (Sorry guys!) BTW--We went and got tix for the WHO's return to Boston at the end of their tour!! (Not too bad for a band that hasn't put out anything new in 20 yrs) Love & Peace, Tony D. From: "Tony Doreika" To: "INXS List" Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: INXS: WHO rebuttal Ticket prices and the sizes of the venues they are able to play whether they release new music or not - well - you can lay that blame at the feet of the audience who creates the demand. If the Who were not able to support ticket sales in large venues, they would be playing clubs - but they are not playing clubs...Whether I like it or not, The Who seem to be free to price their tickets in line with audience demand, no matter how outrageous. My opinion on the ticket and merchandise prices has no impact whatsoever on the drawing power of the Who. It is what it is - they still have the ability to play four nights straight at Madison Square Garden, new music releases or not. I wish INXS received similar adulation. It would have been nice to see them get the bigger audiences they so deserved on this last tour. I went out to see INXS this summer (and The Who, by the way) - where was everyone else? Perhaps Who fans have a longer memory than INXS fans...at least the Who fans get out there and support the band. I agree with this statement wholeheartedly, Jay!! Tony D. From: "Sue" To: "INXS" Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Don't Change, or Change? I've been preoccupied with other things going on (namely we're building our first house) so I've missed out on some great topics that have been going on the past weeks here so I'll try to address some of them in this one email. From: "Leah Sungenis" > Rock is nearly dead. It > makes me that much more grateful for INXS. Ugh, I hate it when people say this. Rock is dead only if you listen to the radio. There are so many great bands out there that never get heard because they don't have the "right sound" for radio. All you have to do, to listen to some great rock, is go to a rock club. I don't know about other states but in the Boston area you pay as little as $8.00 - $10.00 dollars and you get to hear 3 bands. I admit some aren't that great but I've become a fan of many others. They typically sell their cds at the shows for only about $10.00 instead of the rip off cd store prices. Also another way to hear bands is those sampler cds that many magazines have. After you hear a song that you think you may like, go to the bands website. They often have mp3 of other songs. From: > > OK, I admit I was being a little harsh. But my overall feeling doesn't > change -- INXS reached its creative peak with "Welcome to Wherever You > Are" -- an enduring 90's classic. I have to agree with Neil on this. Welcome showed what INXS could be capable of doing. They broke out of that 80's mode - their music had grown up. I was somewhat disappointed with FMDH (although there were some stellar songs on it) and very disappointed with EW. Some people feel that a band should have the same sound all the time, a feeling I can respect, but me personally, I don't like hearing the same sound be rehashed over and over again. From: > If you had to pick a vocalist to have taken over from Michael who would it have been, and why ? I see Neil is still sticking with Johnette Napolitano, and I'm sticking with my choice Donita Sparks (of L7) - lol. No, actually I really have no idea. I think maybe a new fresh unknown singer could have been interesting, someone with a completely different sound, but then how would the die-hard fans feel if their favorite songs no longer sounded the same? I suspect it wouldn't have gone over real well. Although if they were to come out with completely new material written by this unknown then you have a different situation. I didn't see INXS on this past tour so I can't comment on Jon Steven's performance. > How bout you guys around the world, what are the happening music acts out there from your country ? I just can't get my favorite disc from last year off my cd player - Juno - "A Future Lived In Past Tense". These boys hail from Washington state and are incredible. Their live shows just knock your breath out. We caught several shows last fall when they were touring Europe. (We get mentioned in the bands tour diary - when they were in Kilkenny Ireland and again in Verona Italy - http://www.bosski.com/juno ) Other discs - Bill Janovitz's solo disc - "Up Here"; The Chameleons - "Live" (2 discs - worth the import price we paid for it - remarkable); K's Choice - "Almost Happy" (2 disc set - second disc is live material). Yesterday we just bought The Hives - "Veni Vidi Vicious" (only had one listen through but very happy with it so far). And for the completely off kilter disc - Van Morrison & the Chieftains - "Irish Heartbeat". We saw this movie on tv (the title escapes me right now but Janeane Garofalo was in it, and was set in Ireland) and the song Irish Heartbeat was on the soundtrack and just loved the song. The rest of the disc is pretty good also. > I've always loved lots of music to come from Oz, so tell me about bands from your respective countries and why they are sooooo hot, or where samples of their work can be heard. Me too. Anyone in Oz know what The Super Jesus are up to? I know they released a new cd in the past year but I haven't hear much more about them. Well I guess that's enough of my ramblings - I've probably bored you all to tears by now - lol Live long and prosper! Sue From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Hungry Hi guys, Well i have to give my 2 cents again, i know that each of us has their own opinion and that just means that all of us can think for ourselves, i just wish i could express myself better in english, but my primary language is portuguese, but i will try to make my point anyway. I remember when i first bought FMDH and i was kind of disapointed, it had some good tracks but was probably missing those killer singles that INXS got us used too(taste it, beautiful girl, what you need...) but with time, and maybe ny musical taste matured a little, i discovered that FMDH is one of the best INXS records, how can somebody ask for experimentation when this album is probably INXS's biggest experimentation of all? It was totally opposite of what was trendy at the moment, it sounded dark and noisy but not in a grunge way, it was different like all INXS albums were in their own way. It starts with an outstanding track like "days of rust", you also get a brilliant "i'm only looking", then "please" rocks in my opinion, "freedom deep" and speccially "killed the pain" are great ballads, way better than by my side and then "cut your roses down" wich is my favourite is just the funkiest song INXS had ever put out, "viking juice" is pure experimentation, i just mentioned my personal favourites because overall i think this is a great record, definitely INXS in the 90's wich i think defined a new way in their career, wich i normally call their alternative side, but afterall if it wasn't for kick and X INXS was always an alternative band? I think "welcome..."; "Full moon..." and "EW" are just a trilogy of pure masterpieces and i would place welcome below the other 2, but then it's just my 2 cents and you can say i am a die hard fan and all, but you can see with your own eyes that they had some great reviews also, if you see Q magazine review it's very good: "After eight albums, 16 years on the road and thousands of gigs in the bag, the expectation might be that by now INXS would be easing off, putting some shag in their collective pipe and shoving on the slippers. Not a bit of it. Having barely had time to towel down after the rigours of the Get Out Of The House tour, these hearty Aussies have upped the pace yet again with a suitably loud and lusty set that, firmly in keeping with the intensity of the recent scaled down live shows, goes straight for the throat. In the nicest possible way, of course. After last year's Welcome To Wherever You Are, a further period of mild experimentation might again have been on the cards, but there are no 60-piece symphony orchestras here. Instead, in the spirit of some Iron John-style male bonding, they've decamped to a studio half way up a mountainside on Capri to make an album that's tougher-sounding and more aggressive than anything previously bearing their name. Ground-shaking more than ground-breaking, they nevertheless marshal their finite resources with, as ever, a minimum of fuss and cant, playing firmly to the back of the gallery. There are, naturally, a few quieter moments like the mystically steeped Freedom Deep, the attractively framed piano ballad Kill The Pain and, best of all, the slow, bluesy, atmospherically charged title track with Chrissie Hynde sharing shadowy vocals. In essence, this is superior white dance rock for those who either can't dance or should be legally proscribed from ever doing so. The rhythm section is built like the Sydney Harbour Bridge. There's lots of wristy guitaring, hulking choruses a-plenty and, up front, Michael Hutchence jiggles his hormones with the sort of heroic vanity that only a certifiable star could ever hope to get away with. The whiplash riffing of Days Of Rust is as good a place as any to start: taut, muscular and with our leading man apparently not enamoured with the idea of single beds. Time, too, snaps and snarls like a terrier, while The Gift, a somewhat unusual choice for lead single, slams home the almost techno-trance groove at the expense of anything much resembling a song. For the rest, the funk is the thing. Ray Charles, no less, is enlisted for the dirty sounding Please (You've Got That), while Make Your Peace and Cut Your Roses Down burn with an intensity that might not cause James Brown too many sleepless nights but still lack for nothing in punch or righteous energy. Although not a one-man show, Hutchence's performance remains the touchstone: peering into darkness on the neurotically charged Viking Juice, calling for unspecified action on The Messenger while even admitting to "hearing voices" on the bewildered I'm Only Looking that mixes swagger with the now customary dose of self-doubt. Commercially speaking, INXS have probably already peaked with the high yielding Kick. Yet, as is sometimes the case, they're now making better records. Full Moon, Dirty Hearts may lack the variety of its predecessor but it's still got its weird corners and makes the best job yet of capturing the sheer vitality of their live performance. They remain one of God's few gifts to stadium rock. Reviewed by Peter Kane (4/5)" This review worths only as another opinion from the thousands that may be anywhere, and many of them are very bad, i read some bad ones too, but this is just to tell you that like we have different opinions so the critics had, i don't think it's fair to blame this album for the lack of success in the US, because in Europe this albums didn't do that bad, Welcome debuted nº1 in the UK and full moon was a top 5 UK album, about EW well that one slipped of the charts but in my opinion it's the best INXS album ever, they totally reinvented their sound on this one. I am very happy that Jon Stevens is fronting the band and i think he is doing a great job, personally if i had to pick someone i would go with Ian Astbury from The cult, but he wouldn't do such a great job as Rangi's doing. I'm not stuck in time musically speaking, i'm always listening to new stuff, mostly european bands like arid, soulwax, placebo, manic street preachers, white stripes, the ark....and even listening to all those bands i still think that hunfry is 1 of the greatest songs i heard in a long time, long live INXS!!!! Just my opinion, Pedro From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Don't Change, or Change? The movie is called The Matchmaker. It's got great music in it. In a message dated 8/18/02 9:42:49 AM, sue@mdc.net writes: << And for the completely off kilter disc - Van Morrison & the Chieftains - "Irish Heartbeat". We saw this movie on tv (the title escapes me right now but Janeane Garofalo was in it, and was set in Ireland) and the song Irish Heartbeat was on the soundtrack and just loved the song. The rest of the disc is pretty good also. >> Jewels ********** There is a fine line between genius and retarded....... From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH And what about "Strange Desire"? IMHO, the best song on the album. The sultry lyrics, the rythmic beat...great song! From: "K D" To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Is this really Andrew? I actually bought this poster when I was in high school. Jon just looks so adorable in it :-) Seems like Andrew to me. I've had this poster for about 11 years now. Karen From: "K D" To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: INXS: USA cd This one came out last year in the states. Everything was remastered and sounds a lot better. I was amazed the first time I heard it in my car system. Nice highs and very rich full lows. I bought it because I wanted a better sound and also for the remixes from the mid 80's. Karen From: "Gwen Hutchence" To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: INXS: version of NTUA oh , yes , "burning down the house " is my favorite from that cd. and I thought his version of " kiss" was A+. I used to be quite a prince fan , saw alot of his concerts since I lived in minneapolis. and on the subject of FMDH , I found the album quite appealing right from the start. who wants just a constant clone of previous hits? and I was very impressed with elegantly wasted. From: "Donna D" To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... You'd have to add Summerfest in Milwaukee to the list of packed shows. Mostly, I think, because they played one of the free stages. You couldn't move. People were standing on the benches and picnic tables and standing in the aisles. A very awesome experience. ~*~ Donna ~*~ You've got instinct; you've got class; Why don't you leave that; guy on his a$$. Cathy said: Having said that, I can think of a couple shows that had decent crowds. Chicago was basically sold out, as was Konocti Resort in Kelseyville. Saratoga wasn't sold out, but it was 3/4 there-El Rey was about the same, I think. Memphis and Foxwoods were pretty empty-the casinos didn't do much, if any, promotion. Hampton Beach wasn't full, but the crowd was enthusiastic. (That's my favorite show, by the way-OMG, it rocked! I'm surprised the venue was still standing!!) From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:49 PM Subject: RE: INXS: INXS reply to Pedro Hey Pedro, Great write up on the FMDH album,I personally think it was one terrific group of songs and I agree it had a fresh new sound,although some of the videos left a bit to be desired,and while on the subject I always felt the band moved forward on each album since the Swing,to me every studio release was different and took me time to appreciate it's contents,culminating with what I think may have been their best release,EW,believe me I know quite a few of you are laughing like crazy about this post,although the basic INXS sound was evident on each album,they really had a different way of delivering it and to me that is what kept them unique,as Pedro said we all are entitled to an opinion,hey Pedro your post is fine,if I spoke a 2nd language I only hope I could do as well as you. Till next time,Take Care & God Bless!! Love & Peace, Joe From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:26 AM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH hiyas! first of all, that review from Q is something I had never seen before. I thought it was one of the best INXS reviews I've ever read, and the best part is that it was for FMDH! also, soulwax ROCKS! they are the group responsible for that beastie boys/INXS mix that is so awesome! there are also many other mixes they don't quite excellently! who woulda thunk that hearing destiny's child singing bootylicious over the music to nirvana's smells like teen spirit would sound good? but it does! Fists of Fury Eric Reed --- Pedro Queirós wrote: > I'm always listening to new stuff, mostly european bands like soulwax ===== why would anyone ever want to bring you down? you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high From: To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:10 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Hungry In a message dated Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:52:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, Elegantlywasted_Pedro@yahoo.com writes: > I am very happy that Jon Stevens is fronting the band > and i think he is doing a great job, personally if i > had to pick someone i would go with Ian Astbury from > The cult, but he wouldn't do such a great job as > Rangi's doing. > I'm not stuck in time musically speaking, i'm always > listening to new stuff, mostly european bands like > arid, soulwax, placebo, manic street preachers, white > stripes, the ark....and even listening to all those > bands i still think that hunfry is 1 of the greatest > songs i heard in a long time, long live INXS!!!! > Just my opinion, > > Pedro For those of you who are interested, and hadn't heard, Ian Astbury will be touring with the remaining Doors members this year and next. Now that's a debate :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!! Jim From: To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:22 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Who rebuttal - sorry, but I had to... Just adding my bit to the WHO continuing debate, and their productive output over the last 20 years. I think that anybody who saw the WHO during the Sept 11 benefit concert will agree that they blew away everyone else off the stage who played that night. Why the hell should a band stop touring/performing, when they are so rock solid and tight as that?? Unfortunately I only saw that performance, and any other they've done via the gift of television. Try as I might, I have never been able to secure ticktes to see the WHO. The dates are announced, and b4 you know it, they are sold out. The pricing I think you'll find is decided by promotors not the band, and if venues didn't charge extortionate booking fees, tickets would be much cheaper. The lack of new WHO material may be down to the fact that the variuos memebers had there own things going on, and that to work together full time was not viable (which is what would happen if they were to make a new product - recording, promoting, videos, touring). To tour and get together for only 6 months of the year for a tour, and to work at their own pace would be more appealing. Anyway, who the hell buys anything from the Stones made since 1982 these days, and they rumble on to massive audiences. At live Stones gigs, the newer material merely provides time for an opportune toilet break. Jim From: To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:47 AM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH I think music over the last 12 years has suffered, with the necessity for the whole packaging to be just right b4 anyone even listens to the damn thing. FMDH is a prime case in point. The album musically at the time, and even now is head and shoulders above most of what is heard on the radios, and seen on the multitude of cable/satellite/digital music videos channels. However, whoever dropped the ball so drastically management-wise to let the band bring out an album with those videos attached to it should stay away from any other band's career. A group with INXS' history of groud-breaking videos, lost all it's hard earned respect, and fan base in one foul swoop, during a period of upheaval in the music industry, with fans being drawn to more visually appealingly presented acts. The band were no longer in the forefront of (almost all) the vidoes (which in itself leads people to think the band do not really want to be associated with the music, a fact you can't really rule out when you consider how few of those tracks are still being played live by the band, or during the EW tour), and they were videos which lacked any imagination, also leading to a conception by others that the band were coasting, during a period when the old gaurd (yes, even U2) were being considered past it and no longer credible. All this negativity, b4 even listening to the music IMHO led to the album being a successful as a lead balloon. To me it remains one of their very best. Jim From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:48 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Anyone know for sure Watching the free to air news today, I believe channel 10, not sure.... Anyways, as all the Australian stations do now, for the business report they hook up with some bank and one of the banks representatives gives his spiel on how the ASX is doing and the price of the Ozzie dollar etc. I'm looking in the background at the general work environment, and on the nearest computer monitor, stuck on the side appears to be the current INXS logo (ie that which appears on Shine Like it Does the Anthology). I was just wondering if anyone hear can take credit for that ........or am I seeing things? It was too small to notice on a small television. Kick From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:01 AM Subject: INXS: NIC: Ian and the Doors On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 05:10 AM, Jimavfc@aol.com wrote: > For those of you who are interested, and hadn't heard, Ian Astbury will > be touring with the remaining Doors members this year and next. Now > that's a debate :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wow! I'd not heard this. Thanks for letting us know! I've always thought Ian's voice was eerily like Jim's, so I'm sure he'll do a great job by him. Now I just have to hope they come down to NC! Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "Dennis Long" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: INXS: Rotterdam 1990 video Hello, If someone has a video of INXS performing at the Ahoy in Rotterdam during 1990 in PAL format, please email me privately. From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH Hey Eric, Talking about reviews, Q has another great review from Welcome... and it's very good, in fact they elected it for the 50 best albums of 1992, but there is more it landed at nº4 i guess, and X is on the top 50 of 1990 too, if you want just check www.qonline.co.uk Take care, Pedro --- Fists of Fury Eric Reed wrote: > hiyas! > > first of all, that review from Q is something I had > never seen before. > I thought it was one of the best INXS reviews I've > ever read, and the > best part is that it was for FMDH! > > also, soulwax ROCKS! they are the group responsible > for that beastie > boys/INXS mix that is so awesome! there are also > many other mixes they > don't quite excellently! who woulda thunk that > hearing destiny's child > singing bootylicious over the music to nirvana's > smells like teen > spirit would sound good? but it does! > > Fists of Fury Eric Reed > > > --- Pedro Queirós > wrote: > > > I'm always listening to new stuff, mostly > european bands like soulwax > > ===== > why would anyone ever want to bring you down? > you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high > From: "mystifyme" To: ; "INXS List" Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:11 PM Subject: INXS: Nov get together in MN Hi gang, This November will be 5 years since Michael passed away. We'd like to do something special this year, to remember a special man. We're hoping to have a get together , probably in early November, with live entertainment. Of course it depends on how many people attend. Which is why I'm sending this so early. We'd like some idea of how many people might go. The party will be in some where in Minneapolis. If you think you might be interested, please contact me PRIVATELY at mystifyme@chartermi.net Sorry, no details have been worked out yet. Again, it all depends on how many people are interested. Thanks! amy lynne From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH hiyas! even though we both agree that FMDH is an excellent album, I must disagree with your opinion of the collection of videos accomanying the album. I thought the idea to release a video album was awesome! with the exception of the gift and time, all were more or less directed by college students or indie directors. although not all of the videos were up to par with some of INXS' other visual work, the idea as a whole really appealed to me. and, despite a very few less-than-stellar videos, most were quite awesome and rank among my favorite INXS videos of all time! I think what I liked most about the project was that it was one of the most adventurous tasks INXS has ever assumed! to release a visual album full of "art house" music videos so obviously uncommercial for the sake of just doing what they wanted to do, knowing full well there wasn't going to be mass appeal for such a thing, took a lot of guts! for a whole new perspective on the FMDH album, try programming your CD player to play the songs in the same order they appeared on the visual album. it's quite different and it's almost really like listening to a whole new album! (I'd post the order but my video is in storage at the moment. all I remember is that freedom deep came first and kill the pain came last.) Fists of Fury Eric Reed ps, I seriously doubt the music videos affected sales of this album in any way. I don't think their release was intended to, in any way, contribute toward the (lack of) mass appeal of FMDH. --- Jimavfc@aol.com wrote: > I think music over the last 12 years has suffered, with the necessity > for the whole packaging to be just right b4 anyone even listens to > the damn thing. > > FMDH is a prime case in point. > > The album musically at the time, and even now is head and shoulders > above most of what is heard on the radios, and seen on the multitude > of cable/satellite/digital music videos channels. > > However, whoever dropped the ball so drastically management-wise to > let the band bring out an album with those videos attached to it > should stay away from any other band's career. > > A group with INXS' history of groud-breaking videos, lost all it's > hard earned respect, and fan base in one foul swoop, during a period > of upheaval in the music industry, with fans being drawn to more > visually appealingly presented acts. > > The band were no longer in the forefront of (almost all) the vidoes > (which in itself leads people to think the band do not really want to > be associated with the music, a fact you can't really rule out when > you consider how few of those tracks are still being played live by > the band, or during the EW tour), and they were videos which lacked > any imagination, also leading to a conception by others that the band > were coasting, during a period when the old gaurd (yes, even U2) were > being considered past it and no longer credible. All this > negativity, b4 even listening to the music IMHO led to the album > being a successful as a lead balloon. To me it remains one of their > very best. > > > Jim > From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC: Ian and the Doors Further details can be found @ the Doors official site. Jim From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH Apart from what I consider to be a couple of stinkers, I think FMDH is superb. I beleive that at a time when bands were falling by the wayside due to the music climate all over the world, that the concept was unfortunately timed. Arty was not what was in and back to basics was the theme, and arty was just considered pretentious. The timing was wrong, and the band never recovered commercially I feel. However, the track order idea is something I do with most albums I buy on spec, which I really can't get into to start with. Michael's solo album being a case in point. I thought that aprt from Breathe, Slide Away, and Baby It's Alright the album was poor. However after tinkering with the playing order and puttign a couple of what I felt were lesser tracks in between these gems the whole album grew on me, all but She's Flirting For England. Jim From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH You could try the INXS "Contrast" set list, for instance: Deepest Red Just Keep Walking Jackson Need You Tonite Kill The Pain Men & Women Don't Change Never Tear Us Apart Everybody wants U Tonite The Gift Show Me Do wot U do Your point is interesting, for instance if you take the X album.....pretty much the entire A side is represented in singles. As my brother said (not an INXS fan) that's a pretty boring way to lay out an album. You start off with a gun and then settle on a tooth pick as it were LOL. I found with MH's album that it was like Hit, Not so hit, Hit, Not so hit etc, atleast it was consistent LOL.......but A Straight Line as the first single??? There were much fresher tracks on that album, Breathe, Slide Away (if only for the haunting lyrics and Bono's vocals with Michaels)....etc.. Not that the album would have been anymore successful it may have been more prominent on radio however. Overall the album was probably just too melancholy to aspire to anything more than quiet anonymity. FMDH perhaps suffers from the same darkness, brooding and sinister, the album is devoid of the the more danceable rythms associated with prior INXS releases. The albums mood and attitude make a determined resistance against crash course commercialism and gimmickry. God love it!! Michael Kick Talon From: "Stefan" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:12 AM Subject: INXS: INXS Friends - have lost my adress book Hi everyone, I have lost all of my e-mail adress from friends. So please talk to me Stefan known as INXSteFAN From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: INXS: FMDH In a message dated 8/18/2002 6:52:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, emfarriss@aol.com writes: << And what about "Strange Desire"? IMHO, the best song on the album. The sultry lyrics, the rythmic beat...great song! >> I am with you 100% on Strange Desire. I love the smoothness of this song. Very melodic and flowing. Chris From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: INXS: inxs list Hello, I am trying to join the INXS list but am having a hard time doing so. My name is Dale E-mail dbangster@netscape.net Thanks From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:38 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list In a message dated 8/21/02 4:17:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dbangster@netscape.net writes: > > Hello, > I am trying to join the INXS list but am having a hard time doing so. > > My name is Dale > E-mail dbangster@netscape.net > Thanks > > > Hi Dale..I guess you got it this time..! I am also new to the list.. "Hello to all..." Thanks to my friend Ro,I have a new found interest in the band..I forgot just how good they are..! But after seeing them twice on this tour ,well,do I need to say more! Thanks, Fran From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list In a message dated 8/21/02 5:39:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Hairart10@aol.com writes: > < Hi Dale..I guess you got it this time..! I am also new to the > list.. > "Hello to all..." Thanks to my friend Ro,I have a new found interest > > in the band..I forgot just how good they are..! But after seeing them twice > > on this tour ,well,do I need to say more! > > Thanks, Fran> > Hey Fran!! Welcome to the list. Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: "Sherry" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list Hello, I'm new to this list as well. I just joined a few days ago and figured it was time for me to say hello to you all. Love and Peace, Sherry ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "To realize your mortality is interesting, because you really don't think it's there. Especially if you're a rock star." -Michael Hutchence "My beligerant enthusiasm is as optimistic as ever." DLR From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list In a message dated 8/21/02 8:29:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, walkthisway98@yahoo.com writes: > > Hello, > I'm new to this list as well. I just joined a few days ago and figured it > was time for me to say hello to you all. > Love and Peace, > Sherry > > > > Welcome Sherry..! Fran From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list Thanks Ro...If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be here..! From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list Hi, Welcome to the list Dale, Fran and Sherry. Good to have you. Looking forward to some good conversation. Sue From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:16 AM Subject: INXS: Tour memorabillia Hi everyone does anybody know the going rate for tour items from the UK Kick tour? I have a jumper/sweatshirt from the show (red/white/black stripes with INXS on it) and wondered how much it was worth. It's in mint condition as I've hardly ever worn it. I but t-shirts etc from shows, and save them and rarely wear them. I don't think it would fit me now :-) Oh if only I were 19 again, it might :-) Also, is anybody here going to the INXS/Blondie show @ the NEC Birmingham on the UK tour? It would be nice to put faces to the names here. Jim From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:32 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Tour memorabillia While where asking prices, how much would a mint condition X tour logo be worth......you know?, those things you can sew on to the back of a jacket LOL. I wouldn't imagine much. I think they printed 50 million of them. Michael Kick Talon From: "Cathy.mn" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: INXS: inxs list Hi, Fran! This is Cathy-it was good to meet you at Foxwoods. Hopefully we'll connect again on the next US tour, whenever that may be! Hairart10@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 8/21/02 4:17:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dbangster@netscape.net writes: > > Hello, > I am trying to join the INXS list but am having a hard time doing so. > > My name is Dale > E-mail dbangster@netscape.net > Thanks > > > Hi Dale..I guess you got it this time..! I am also new to the list.. "Hello to all..." Thanks to my friend Ro,I have a new found interest in the band..I forgot just how good they are..! But after seeing them twice on this tour ,well,do I need to say more! Thanks, Fran From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: INXS: Welcome to our new friends Welcome to all the people who have just joined! We are a crazy bunch and we debate a lot of stuff. There's one thing we all agree on and that is that INXS is the greatest band in the world. Okay, Nanci, I'm hedging my bets on that one with you! LOL!!! Cheerio, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Sherry writes: > > Hello, > I'm new to this list as well. I just joined a few days ago and > figured it was time for me to say hello to you all. > Love and Peace, > Sherry > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > "To realize your mortality is interesting, because you really don't > think it's there. Especially if you're a rock star." -Michael > Hutchence > > > "My beligerant enthusiasm is as optimistic as ever." DLR > > > From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Welcome to our new friends On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 10:52 AM, Leah Sungenis wrote: > Welcome to all the people who have just joined! > > We are a crazy bunch and we debate a lot of stuff. There's one thing we > all agree on and that is that INXS is the greatest band in the world. > Okay, Nanci, I'm hedging my bets on that one with you! LOL!!! How about "one of the very greatest bands"? Will that do? But, after U2, I'm willing to give it to them. Ironic that *I'm* the holdout here, eh? lol Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Welcome to our new friends Thanks Leia! Yes I agree INXS is the best band in the world. I was on this list maybe 3 years back and enjoyed it very much. Great people with a lot of different views. Till next time.......... Dale Leah Sungenis wrote: >Welcome to all the people who have just joined! > >We are a crazy bunch and we debate a lot of stuff. There's one thing we >all agree on and that is that INXS is the greatest band in the world. >Okay, Nanci, I'm hedging my bets on that one with you! LOL!!! > >Cheerio, > >Princess Leia >Leader, Rebel Forces >Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com > > > From: "Heather Heiler" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Welcome to our new friends Nanci, How about we say U2 is one of the greatest bands, but INXS is just a smidgen greater? It's a constant struggle in my house - my boyfriend is a huge U2 fan, and I'm the INXS fanatic! Actually, I went to see U2 on the Elevation tour, and I was blown away! I was 4 months pregnant at the time, and ever since then the baby has been both a U2 & an INXS fan. Zach was born to "Stuck in a Moment" (how fitting, since it was written about Michael & sung by Bono). We refer to U2 as "Uncle Bono's" band, and my favorite baby sitter is putting in the "Live from Boston" DVD. Since my son was 3 months old, he will not move while the entire DVD is on, but he will try to sing to it!We alternate his lullaby music between INXS & U2 CD's. I'm training him to be an INXS fan as well. His favorite INXS CD is Shabooh Shoobah. He's anxiously waiting the release of some new material! Take care of yourself! Nanci Lamb Roider wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 10:52 AM, Leah Sungenis wrote: > Welcome to all the people who have just joined! > > We are a crazy bunch and we debate a lot of stuff. There's one thing we > all agree on and that is that INXS is the greatest band in the world. > Okay, Nanci, I'm hedging my bets on that one with you! LOL!!! How about "one of the very greatest bands"? Will that do? But, after U2, I'm willing to give it to them. Ironic that *I'm* the holdout here, eh? lol Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono Love & Peace, Heather From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:59 AM Subject: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof Hi all...I thought this might be of some interest to some. Undercover Music News : Bob Geldof puts his life into words and music Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: "graziella" To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: RE: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof It seems that your link doesn't work properly have you tried it recently? graz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:59 AM Subject: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof > Hi all...I thought this might be of some interest to some. > > Undercover Music News : Bob Geldof puts his life into words and music > > Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof In a message dated 8/23/02 6:41:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mediate@worldonline.fr writes: > It seems that your link doesn't work properly > have you tried it recently? > It worked for me..You might want to try back later... Fran From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:01 AM Subject: RE: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof Rosemarie wrote: > Hi all...I thought this might be of some interest to some. > > HREF="http://www.undercover.com.au/20020823_bobgeldof.html">Undercover > Music News : Bob Geldof puts his life into words and music Sounds incredible! I wish i could be there! If anyone on the list goes, please send in a full report. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono * It seems that your link doesn't work properly > have you tried it recently? > graz > Hi graz....yes....it worked fine for me and it seems to have for others. In case anyone else had problems, try this: http://www.undercover.com.au/20020823_bobgeldof.html Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:26 PM Subject: Re: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof In a message dated 8/23/02 6:02:43 AM, nanci@digitalcastle.com writes: << > Music News : Bob Geldof puts his life into words and music Sounds incredible! I wish i could be there! If anyone on the list goes, please send in a full report. >> FYI Nanci: Bob Geldof is playing the House of Blues in Los Angeles on September 28. I will be going to the show. It would be my guess that he is touring the US after Australia. Wonder what kind of response he's going to get down under? Here in the States, people do not have that same kind of emotional reaction to him (regarding the Michael/Paula/Bob situation) for the most part. From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: RE: INXS: News article - Bob Geldof On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 01:26 PM, RStreeting@aol.com wrote: > Bob Geldof is playing the House of Blues in Los Angeles on September > 28. I > will be going to the show. Lucky you! > It would be my guess that he is touring the US after Australia. Wonder > what > kind of response he's going to get down under? Here in the States, > people do > not have that same kind of emotional reaction to him (regarding the > Michael/Paula/Bob situation) for the most part. I think you're right. Over here, if people know the name at all, I think they think: 1) Live Aid, 2) Boomtown Rats, then 3) I Hate Mondays. And that's it! H'e managed to fly pretty much below the radar, it seems. His fans will know all the other stuff, but we expect that, don't we? Let me know if he plays The Great Song of Indifference - it's my all-time fav by him. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:49 PM Subject: Re: INXS: - Bob Geldof, No INXS - sorry - In a message dated 8/23/02 11:19:08 AM, nanci@digitalcastle.com writes: << I think you're right. Over here, if people know the name at all, I think they think: 1) Live Aid, 2) Boomtown Rats, then 3) I Hate Mondays. And that's it! H'e managed to fly pretty much below the radar, it seems. His fans will know all the other stuff, but we expect that, don't we? Very true. I'm looking forward to the show, haven't seen Bob since 1992 in London. It was his 40th birthday and a fun show. He got a good response in Los Angeles the last time he played here. By the way, I know you meant to say "I Don't Like Mondays...."!!! Let me know if he plays The Great Song of Indifference - it's my all-time fav by him. Funny you should mention that one. Another of his great songs. It was running in my head today. I'll keep it in mind...lucky for me I live walking distance to the House Of Blues where Bob will be appearing... Seeing Bob so close after seeing INXS this summer - who would have thought? From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:07 AM Subject: INXS: NIC: a note of sorriness to a lister. I just wanted to let you all know that I have heard from Carlos and I said that I would appologize to him in public. I am now appologizing to Carlos. He did finally get in touch with me. We are going to work out something. Just felt I would do as I said I would (I am a lady of my word) and I am not too proud to say I am sorry for being wrong. thanks for listening. Laurie From: "Clarissa Wyler" To: "INXS list" Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: INXS: test Sorry everyone, i´m just testing to see if this gets through... --- From: "K WithaKris" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: INXS: Hysterical Blindness Last night, HBO premiered it's new movie Hysterical Blindness starring Juliette Lewis and Uma Thurman. The film takes place in Bayonne NJ sometime in the 80's (I came to my own conculsion about 86). At one point towards the end of the film, Uma's character is sitting at the bar feeling down...What You Need comes on, and she starts to get into it saying "god, this song is so perfect!" right when the lyrics are "forget about the troubles in your life"...She then gets up and dances for the rest of the song, and all you can hear is the song playing...and they played the entire song from beginning to end. I was a happy camper :) Thought you all might want to know the most recent spotting of INXS in films :) ...Kris (with a K) From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Hysterical Blindness Now there's a positive event, if ever there was one. What You Need is probably INXS' standout song, for just a clean simple positive message. Not enough of it around these days!? "That's Whhhy ....you neeed" M K Talon From: "david kilgus" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: INXS:Hysterical Blindness Yes, I noticed that too and thought it fit right in! I thought they did a good job using music from that period of time... Since the last HBO reference to INXS/Michael was so disturbing to me on "Six Feet Under" I felt this balanced it all out ha ha. C.K. From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC: a note of sorriness to a lister. Laurie and everyone else, You are crazy!! If this is the guy who has been saying he will sell the Argentina 2002 show, don't go near him with a ten foot pole. This guy has been lying to a lot of us for months and I refuse to believe he has suddenly reformed. We have all had the experience of being ripped off by unscrupulous traders on this list from time to time. A message to all of you is to only trade with people you know, or people that will offer you references from other people on the list they have traded with. If they have never traded before, then they are the ones who are supposed to send the stuff first, to establish their reputations. I just hate to see people get burned, especially if money is involved. Cheerio, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:07:51 EDT Newlu4inxs@aol.com writes: > I just wanted to let you all know that I have heard from Carlos and I > said > that I would appologize to him in public. I am now appologizing to > Carlos. > He did finally get in touch with me. We are going to work out > something. > Just felt I would do as I said I would (I am a lady of my word) and > I am not > too proud to say I am sorry for being wrong. thanks for listening. > Laurie > > From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: INXS: Fwd: INXS photo info request from Pro Sound News-URGENT Hey guys, I don't have Ashlynne's email address on me -- but if you see this message, please respond to Mr Young directly. If any of you out there have good quality live shots from the tour, sounds like he may be interested in hearing from you as well. Cheers, -neil --- Clive Young wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:21:20 -0500 > To: webmaster@inxsweb.com, neil@inxsweb.com, mario@inxsweb.com > From: Clive Young > Subject: INXS photo info request from Pro Sound News-URGENT > > Hi- > My name is Clive Young, I'm the news editor for Pro Sound News, a > music trade magazine covering the touring and recording industries. > I'm running a story on the current INXS tour in my September issue > and need to find a photo of the band performing. However, it seems > that few if any professional photographers have shot the group this > time out, as I can't find a photo to accompany the story. > Accordingly, I'm interested in contacting "Ashlynne F." who took > photos featured on your site of the group at the PNC Bank Arts Center > > in Holmdel, NJ, in order so that I might purchase a photo from her > for use in our September issue. My deadline is in a few days, so if > you could either forward my contact info [below] to her or could send > > her email address to me, I would be grateful. If, perchance, you all > have taken some good concert shots of the current tour, I'd be > interested in seeing them. Time is of the essence on this, so if > there's any way you could help me out on this, I'd really appreciate > it. > Thanks, > Clive Young > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Clive Young > News Editor - Pro Sound News > mailto:cyoung@uemedia.com > Tel: (212) 378-0424 > Fax: (212) 378-2160 > http://www.prosoundnews.com > > Entertainment Technology Group > United Entertainment Media, Inc. > A CMP Information Company > 460 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016-7315 > http://www.uemedia.com > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > ===== Neil Kothari, M.D. Bellevue Hospital / New York University Medical Center An Excess of INXS -- http://INXSweb.com Best 2001 --http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/9224/music2001.html From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: INXS: NIC: a note of sorriness to a lister. Hi everyone, If this is the same Carlos from Argentina from who i bought Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo 2002 shows you can trust him, i bought the shows at Ebay and he was really quick shipping the stuff. Take care, Pedro From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Hysterical Blindness In a message dated 8/26/2002 5:06:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, inxsive23@hotmail.com writes: << Thought you all might want to know the most recent spotting of INXS in films :) ...Kris (with >> Hi Kris, I too saw that show on HBO and had the same response when the song came on. The show had a great soundtrack!! But I am still a little undecided on how I felt about the show. I adore Juliet Lewis. She is one of my favortie actresses. But I thought the show was very depressing. Poor Uma Thurman. She could have used a self-esteem boost!! Take Care All, Chris From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:28 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Fwd: INXS photo info request from Pro Sound News-URGENT neil i didn't make it into your address book?! i'm crushed. ;-) i sent mr young an email. this is so exciting. thank you for forwarding the email and thank you for putting my pictures up at your website. i was happy to share them! From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: INXS: Fwd: Inxs photos FYI. -neil --- Clive Young wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:38:46 -0500 > To: nkoth@yahoo.com > From: Clive Young > Subject: Inxs photos >... if you could please do me a favor and either take down the > message or post a new one letting people know that I am no longer > searching for a photo, I'd appreciate it. I've been utterly swamped > in emails this morning from well-intentioned, kind people offering to > > sell their photos, and while I appreciate their offers, I don't want > to waste any more people's time. ===== Neil Kothari, M.D. Bellevue Hospital / New York University Medical Center An Excess of INXS -- http://INXSweb.com Best 2001 --http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/9224/music2001.html From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: INXS: jesus was a man/tight and the rest... hiyas! I just wanted to comment on both of these songs, as well as some other unreleased songs coming out soon... I've had these songs on my hard drive for a couple of months but I wanted to really listen to them a lot before I offered any opinions. for those of you who have heard any of these songs already, I'd also like to hear your opinions. I'll start with two of my favorites. tight: this is an outtake from WTWYA. obviously, this song wasn't left off the album because it wasn't good enough, but because it just didn't fit with the rest of the album. I think this is a REALLY AWESOME dance groove! it reminds me a LOT of prince! I especially like the brass on this song. probably the best use of horns I've heard on an INXS song ever. I'd say this song was quite ahead of its time for being recorded in 92. funk wasn't real big at that time (took a couple more years for that), which is why it made sense for them to release this as a single in 2002 (a whole TEN years later!) not that this song sounds anything like what's being played on the radio today, but I would definitely say it doesn't sound outdated in the least bit. had this been on WTWYA, it would have been one of my favorite tracks. jesus was a man: according to INXS.com, this song is an outtake from kick. I would fully expect that this was an outtake from EW. it reminds me a lot of let it ride, another brilliant song left off of EW. listening to the music, the production, etc...it in NO WAY sounds anything like kick or ANYTHING coming out of the 80s. of course, I remember reading something about the reason why this song wasn't used on an album was because it's fairly obscure for an INXS song, and obviously is nothing like their commercial hits. listening to the first minute or two, it sounds very much like a demo. michael is fumbling his words a bit, his vocals are overly punchy, and his voice is a bit wonky, at best. however, it musically kicks in and becomes one of the most powerful INXS productions I've heard! the only explanation I can find for it sounding so much like something from EW is that perhaps it was originally a demo and INXS recently did some tinkering with it, post-production. but, michael's singing is SO powerful on this song that it's really hard to imagine this as a demo. possibly one of my favorite INXS songs ever! the rest: the answer is basically questions with different lyrics. indian song is also questions, but with michael singing the lyrics to not enough time over them. apparently he was trying to fit some lyrics he wrote with different instrumental compositions andrew had presented him with. the trap is coming off the same ideas that were presented with tiny daggers. even some of the lyrics are the same. and the music is in the very same vein. waiting to be free is a cute little tune that would have been more suited to X than several of the songs on that album. perhaps it only suffered in its production. salvation jane is another song left off X, probably for its commercially unfriendly environmental lyrical content. the demo version of all around is, to me, better than the version on the album. it's more stripped down, going for more of a retro 60s groovy sound, rahter than the rocker it turned out to be. the move on demo isn't much different than the original. the wishing well version 2 was actually a remix released back in 94. mystify and who pays the price are really early demos with drum machines and sparse instrumentation. salvation jane and heaven sent demos are both sung by andrew, with the latter being in 3/4 waltz time. it sounds very awkward! deepest red was also previously issued as a bside back in 92. that about covers my assessment of the unreleased tunes! obviously, as I had already pointed out, the first two tunes I reviewed are by far my favorites! I'd love to hear what anyone else has to say about these songs! Fists of Fury Eric Reed ===== why would anyone ever want to bring you down? you look so beautiful whenever you are way up high From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:43 AM Subject: Re: INXS: jesus was a man/tight and the rest... Are you saying you've got the whole songs on your HDD, or just the 30 second clips available on Xcom? Cause from the 30 seconds you can't tell much. Tight, if it were produced like the rest of WTWYA, would belong on there, in my opinion. It has the contrasting synth over the top of a repeating bass rif. I have to agree that, as far as INXS tunes go, it has easily moved up the chart I keep in my head (involuntarily LOL). I find myself singing the opening verse at traffic lights etc, especially pleasing is the hook " you will come aRound....TIGHT". Jesus was a Man on the other hand....in the 30 seconds on X com, Michael's vocals are unpolished to say the least. I find a similar treatment on The Loved One, live on Australia Made, but on that it sounds good. Here he is just stumbling through the e/motions trying to create something higher within himself, as if the subject somehow needs that extra effort. Michael always sings best when he's on easy mode. They left it off of Kick cause it simply doesn't pan out when matched against any of the songs already chosen. I could imagine Chris Thomas, "Hmm... interesting..., what else ya got? " In other words " Don't contact us, we'll let you know". Having said that the song has to improve after the first 30 seconds. As for the other tunes, not previously released anywhere, Waiting to be Free seems to be a stand out track, it has all the strengths of the X album without it's weaknesses, which may be revealed in the rest of the song however. Salvation Jane, a song about Mary Jane more likely, has a very strong chorus, but as for the verse, while it is funky and Michael does a good job, it really seems like a filler track to slide somewhere between the first 5 tracks on X. In other words, not quite a single. The more I hear the verse the less I like it. I also find the secondary treatment of All Around to be very Beatleish in a way....especially some of their more experimental stuff. Move On, now that's a brilliant if different track of Kick, should have been on there in the first place. And Deepest Red, well we all know the only reason it was not on the X album is because Jon and Michael wrote it, Chris Thomas and the band must have been thinking to keep the MH/AF system pretty much intact. It makes no sense however, X has 11 tracks, and a twelth seems to be missing LOL. INXS had more to say with Welcome and EW I guess, both LPs in the truest sense. MK Talon From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: INXS: Argentina show So does anybody on this list have the Argentina show on VHS or CD? I noticed both a CD version and VHS are on Ebay right now, but I don't really want to pay $28 for the CDs (the current bid). From: "Cherie" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Argentina show I only have Sao Paulo -----Original Message----- From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, 30 August 2002 6:43 AM To: inxs@topica.com Subject: INXS: Argentina show So does anybody on this list have the Argentina show on VHS or CD? I noticed both a CD version and VHS are on Ebay right now, but I don't really want to pay $28 for the CDs (the current bid). From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: RE: INXS: Argentina show I guess I should clarify I mean the May 2002 show. Specifically the one that was televised. Cherie wrote:I only have Sao Paulo -----Original Message----- From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, 30 August 2002 6:43 AM To: inxs@topica.com Subject: INXS: Argentina show So does anybody on this list have the Argentina show on VHS or CD? I noticed both a CD version and VHS are on Ebay right now, but I don't really want to pay $28 for the CDs (the current bid). From: "Mobile_Fly" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: RES: INXS: INXS Friends - have lost my adress book Hi Stefan... I'm replying to your e-mail just in case you have lost my address too, so you can get it again now. How's everything ? Hope life is ok out there for you... I'll you be going to see INXS in UK ? I hope you will, cause you will love it. The guys are doing great ! Did you get the Argentina concert or any other concert from this tour in America ? If you have news, please let me know! Take care, Marcelo > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Stefan [mailto:StefanLamp@gmx.de] > Enviada em: quarta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2002 07:12 > Para: inxs@topica.com > Assunto: INXS: INXS Friends - have lost my adress book > > > Hi everyone, > I have lost all of my e-mail adress from friends. So please talk to me > Stefan > known as INXSteFAN From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: Re: INXS: jesus was a man/tight and the rest... michael, have you heard ALL of tight, or just the 30 seconds? I have all of the complete songs on my hard drive. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to tell you how I acquired them, but I'm sure you can find them on kazaa, winmx, audiogalaxy, etc... 30 seconds doesn't do any of the songs justice. especially jesus was a man. I listened to it a lot more last night, and here is my updated assessment: michael's vocals (and possibly the acoustic guitar) were recorded back in the kick days. I think, for the most part it was just improvisation that sounded like it *could eventually be* something. pretty much all other instrumentation must have been recorded and layered over just recently. it sounds too fresh to have been recorded back then. there's a point in the song when it sounds like michael bumps into the mic, as you can hear it pretty clearly. also, later on in the song he is just goofing around and sings (very passionately) "MY GUITAR DOESN'T WORK! AND I WANT TO PLAY A NEW SOLO!" hahahahahahaha salvation jane...that's a confusing one. although the chorus definitely could be alluding to pot, the verses certainly aren't. it seems to focus on man's destruction of the environment, so if the chorus really is about pot, it's as if saying "smoking pot makes it all ok!" I don't think that's what andrew had in mind with his lyrics. as for deepest red being left off of X, I don't think it has to do with jon writing it. after all, jon had disappear and faith in each other on the album, so obviously there was no prejudice against his songwriting. although it's quite a standout song, I just don't think it fit with the rest of the album. just like I don't think tight fits with WTWYA. waiting to be free has some promise, but it's still got that X production quality, which irritates me. by the way, if anyone would like any of the new songs I'd be more than happy to send them to you via instant messenger. I use pretty much all instant messengers (AOL, yahoo, MSN, ICQ). I'm skippythefrog on every one of them. look me up :) Fists of Fury Eric Reed From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:16 AM Subject: Re: INXS: jesus was a man/tight and the rest... 30 seconds is all I have heard, although in possession of Kazaa I must be somewhat unlucky LOL. With Salvation Jane, my assertion that it's about MJ is indeed only to do with the chorus predominantly. It's as if the problems described in the verses are a good reason to "trash" (open) the mind. Maybe the "wildflower" girl, is meant to describe the stereotypical greenie, somebody who ties themselves to trees etc and who is not adverse to the occasional drug or alternative lifestyle. I believe Andrew already did this song with Jenny Morris did he not? Oh, by the way, if you can tell me,.....which mix/ mixes of Tight do you have? MK Talon From: "Fists of Fury Eric Reed" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:58 AM Subject: Re: INXS: jesus was a man/tight and the rest... as far as I can tell, I don't own a remix of tight. I assume it's the original, if there is such a thing :P From: "pablo sepulveda" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:58 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Argentina show Cherie wrote: I only have Sao Paulo -----Original Message----- From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, 30 August 2002 6:43 AM To: inxs@topica.com Subject: INXS: Argentina show So does anybody on this list have the Argentina show on VHS or CD? I noticed both a CD version and VHS are on Ebay right now, but I don't really want to pay $28 for the CDs (the current bid). Hi! I´ve got the argentina show, in double cd....I can trade Pablo Sepúlveda Trueba From: "Leah Sungenis" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Argentina show For goodness sake, NO ONE should buy these shows. There are already people on the list that have them that will be willing to trade. I suggest that those of you who want it have patience and it will begin circulating soon. Cheers, L. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Brian the Rice writes: > > So does anybody on this list have the Argentina show on VHS or CD? I > noticed both a CD version and VHS are on Ebay right now, but I don't > really want to pay $28 for the CDs (the current bid). > > From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: RE: INXS: Argentina show Hey Brian, I have 3 shows from the 2002 south american tour, São Paulo(like cherie), Rio de Janeiro and the Argentina show( that's got to be the wildest crowd ever, those argentinians are wild!!!). Regards, Pedro From: "Brian the Rice" To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Argentina show How good is the quality of the recordings? I know the video of the Argentina show is professionally shot, since I was able to download them from a fan site down there, but what about the CD? By the way, the Belgium CD was professionally recorded. From: To: Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: INXS: Argentina show I have the May 2002 Argentina show on VHS. I got it on E-bay for $18.99 with a buy it now option. The quality of the tape is GREAT and the shipper sent it out extremely fast. I got it within 10 days. Love & Peace - Rosemarie From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: Re: INXS: Argentina show The quality of the Argentina show is good, i think it was put into mp3 from the tv broadcast. About the other shows are good also but i think they are very good audience recordings. You have to pump up the volume a little. From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: INXS: journo thesis man? Hey all, Does anyone have the addy of the gentleman who was searching for info for a paper he was writing? Email me privately if you do so that not everyone has to read another entry! Thanks! l & p, marlo! ;*