From: Astraightline@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:38 AM Subject: [Inxs] Wrere is everyone (nic) Just checking to see if the list has been really quiet or if something is wrong with my mail. Thanks Dee From: "dennis zanin" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Wrere is everyone (nic) Can anybody please tell me when the inxs anthology is released in Australia. I asked a few record stores and none of the knew From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Wrere is everyone (nic) hey there, i have been wondering the same exact thing, what happened to everyone?? only a couple more days until the anthology thing is coming out i would think there would be some posts. ahh, oh well. erica From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: [Inxs] Anthology Overseas "dennis zanin" wrote: > > Can anybody please tell me when the inxs anthology is released in > Australia. I asked a few record stores and none of the knew. It's going to be a U.S. release only. I read something somewhere about how the American distribution rights are held by a different company than who controls the distribution every else in the world. Anthology is being made by the American distributors and they don't have the rights to ship it overseas. You'll have to find an import dealer to order one for you or find somebody in the states who would be willing to ship one to you. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: [Inxs] Just got Elegently Wasted! Finally, after "searching" so long for this CD, I got Elegently Wasted. I got it when I was buying my first guitar yesterday. My sister came up to me holding it, and I was thrilled! I love "Girl on Fire", "She is rising", and "Shake the Tree". ok, im just happy that I got it:) Shine Like it Does, ~Jennifer PS. 2 days until the release of Shine Like it Does!!! From: NJTalker@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Anthology Overseas you can get it from cdnow.com...it has a direct site from inxs.com From: "Deirdre Jennette" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: [Inxs] Bob's new album I'm sure this will give everyone something to chat about: GELDOF BREAKS SILENCE Bob Geldof will publicly comment on the death of Michael Hutchence and former wife Paula Yates on his first new album in almost ten years, dotmusic has learnt. 'Sex, Age & Death' contains a number of tracks concerning the acrimonious disintegration of Geldof's marriage to Yates and the subsequent suicides of both Hutchence and Yates. 'Inside Your Head' questions of Hutchence: "Why put a noose around your neck? / What the f*ck's going on inside your head", reports industry magazine Music Week. The track also includes lyrics capturing Geldof's reaction to the end of his relationship with Yates: "You got the gold, I got the lead / You got the juice, you left me the dregs / You got the palace, I go the shed / You got a life, you left me for dead / What the f*ck's going on inside your head?" Geldof comments: "Some things are unsayable, but maybe I can articulate them in music". The album is expected to be released in September and has been produced by Queen drummer Roger Taylor. "They love you when you're on all the covers; when you're not, they love another" - Marilyn Manson "I don't really miss God, but I sure do miss Santa Clause" Courtney Love - "Gutless" From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: [Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! i'm sorry, but what the bloody hell? i know a lot of people on this list have respect for bob geldof, or don't feel the need to speak poorly of them. but look at this. he has the nerve...he didn't even KNOW michael as a person, yet he goes and writes this rubbish asking michael why he commited suicide and how STUPID it was of him to do so. debate all you want, it is a bunch of BS. i mean, michael, no matter how angry he was, didn't openly come out in his songs and say, "you are sucha ass, bob..." lalala, DID HE?!?! i mean, sure he talked about the paula/geldof situation indirectly, but he never pointed fingers or questioned anyone. he was better than that. just because michael isn't alive to come and beat you grungy butt, bob, doesn't mean you have the right to direspect him like this. maybe i'm getting all worked up over nothing. but i definetly think this is something. and i don't care about all the bob geldof respecters on this list. no matter how good he has been with the kids, or no matter how many records he sold with his live aid deal, i still think this makes him pretty low. it was 4 years ago... let it go already. erica From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Bob's new album I cant belive this....this is giving me a lower oppion of him.....I didnt think that was possible....I'm so pissed right now.... In a message dated 6/4/01 12:25:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, violet729@hotmail.com writes: << “Why put a noose around your neck? / What the f*ck’s going on inside your head”, reports industry magazine Music Week. >> From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! I'm w/ you 100% on this one Erica!! ~Jennifer In a message dated 6/4/01 4:22:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, inxsbeautifulgirl@hotmail.com writes: << i'm sorry, but what the bloody hell? i know a lot of people on this list have respect for bob geldof, or don't feel the need to speak poorly of them. but look at this. he has the nerve...he didn't even KNOW michael as a person, yet he goes and writes this rubbish asking michael why he commited suicide and how STUPID it was of him to do so. debate all you want, it is a bunch of BS. i mean, michael, no matter how angry he was, didn't openly come out in his songs and say, "you are sucha ass, bob..." lalala, DID HE?!?! i mean, sure he talked about the paula/geldof situation indirectly, but he never pointed fingers or questioned anyone. he was better than that. just because michael isn't alive to come and beat you grungy butt, bob, doesn't mean you have the right to direspect him like this. maybe i'm getting all worked up over nothing. but i definetly think this is something. and i don't care about all the bob geldof respecters on this list. no matter how good he has been with the kids, or no matter how many records he sold with his live aid deal, i still think this makes him pretty low. it was 4 years ago... let it go already. erica >> From: LuvNPce99@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology Hi everyone. I got the Anthology today (yes, today). I called one of the record stores and asked if they would have it tomorrow and he said he had it today....so you know I ran right out the door to get it. I've been listening to it all day and, of course, it's wonderful. The booklet included is unbelievable with a history of the band told by David Fricke, a track by track commentary of each song by Andrew, great pictures and a beautiful dedication to Michael. I went through a rollercoaster of emotions while reading it and listening to the discs. I hope to hear what everyone else thinks....this list has been way too quiet the past few weeks. Love & Peace to all - Rosemarie From: "Catherine Stancl" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! >From: "Erica Nicole" >Reply-To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >Subject: [Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! >Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:20:39 -0400 > >i'm sorry, but what the bloody hell? i know a lot of people on this >list have respect for bob geldof, or don't feel the need to speak poorly of >them. but look at this. he has the nerve...he didn't even >KNOW michael as a person, yet he goes and writes this rubbish asking >michael >why he commited suicide and how STUPID it was of him to do >so. debate all you want, it is a bunch of BS. i mean, michael, >no matter how angry he was, didn't openly come out in his songs >and say, "you are sucha ass, bob..." lalala, DID HE?!?! i mean, >sure he talked about the paula/geldof situation indirectly, but >he never pointed fingers or questioned anyone. he was better than >that. just because michael isn't alive to come and beat you grungy >butt, bob, doesn't mean you have the right to direspect him like >this. maybe i'm getting all worked up over nothing. but i definetly think >this is something. and i don't care about all the bob geldof respecters on >this list. no matter how good he has been with the >kids, or no matter how many records he sold with his live aid deal, >i still think this makes him pretty low. it was 4 years ago... >let it go already. >erica > > > > >> >>I'm sure this will give everyone something to chat about: >> >>GELDOF BREAKS SILENCE >>Bob Geldof will publicly comment on the death of Michael Hutchence and >>former wife Paula Yates on his first new album in almost ten years, >>dotmusic >>has learnt. >>'Sex, Age & Death' contains a number of tracks concerning the acrimonious >>disintegration of Geldof's marriage to Yates and the subsequent suicides >>of >>both Hutchence and Yates. >>'Inside Your Head' questions of Hutchence: "Why put a noose around your >>neck? / What the f*ck's going on inside your head", reports industry >>magazine Music Week. >>The track also includes lyrics capturing Geldof's reaction to the end of >>his >>relationship with Yates: "You got the gold, I got the lead / You got the >>juice, you left me the dregs / You got the palace, I go the shed / You got >>a >>life, you left me for dead / What the f*ck's going on inside your head?" >>Geldof comments: "Some things are unsayable, but maybe I can articulate >>them >>in music". The album is expected to be released in September and has been >>produced by Queen drummer Roger Taylor. >> >> >>"They love you when you're on all the covers; when you're not, they love >>another" - Marilyn Manson >> >>"I don't really miss God, but I sure do miss Santa Clause" >>Courtney Love - "Gutless" >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Inxs mailing list >>Inxs@nightswimming.com >>http://nightswimming.com/mailman/listinfo/inxs_nightswimming.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Inxs mailing list >Inxs@nightswimming.com >http://nightswimming.com/mailman/listinfo/inxs_nightswimming.com Beautifully said. All those articles and pictures of him with the girls saying what a perfect father, and what a kind and generous man he is........ obviously a facade for the dirtball that he really is. Is he so egocentric that he cannot let them R.I.P? Cat From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!] "Erica Nicole" wrote: > >'Inside Your Head' questions of Hutchence: "Why put a noose around your > >neck? / What the f*ck's going on inside your head", reports industry > i'm sorry, but what the bloody hell? i know a lot of people on this > list have respect for bob geldof, or don't feel the need to speak > poorly of them. but look at this. he has the nerve...he didn't even > KNOW michael as a person, yet he goes and writes this rubbish asking > michael why he commited suicide and how STUPID it was of him to do so. Umm, can you show me WHERE it is implied that Bob thinks Michael was stupid? There is nothing in the snippet of lyrics provided that indicates what Bob's opinion is. Now, if you want to take a level headed, non-bashing approach to this, look at the aftermath that Bob has to deal with in the court system over Tiger. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that if you were in a position where your significant other left you for another person and then that person's suicide ended up leaving you in a position where you had to take care of a child that wasn't yours, you wouldn't be wondering what the f*** was going through their head before they killed themselves? Do you really think that you have some extrodinary emotional strength that would allow you take all of that in stride? Your short tempered emotional outburst makes me think not. Now, what shows up in the rest of the song may prove me wrong, but based SOLEY on those two lines, there is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bob is calling Michael stupid. I see is a man expressing bewilderment, and possibly some anger, at his situation and trying to find answers as to why it happened. Now, I'm rather indifferent about Bob. I don't hate him but I don't know that I respect him. I really could care less about him as a person save for my concerns over how Tiger is being raised. But obviously you have some preconceived notions about him that have caused you to read more into something than was actually there. Maybe you should step back and actually withhold your judgement until you have seen the full lyrics to the song when they can be evaluated in context. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!] In a message dated 6/4/01 5:34:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dav3yq@usa.net writes: << Now, if you want to take a level headed, non-bashing approach to this, look at the aftermath that Bob has to deal with in the court system over Tiger. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that if you were in a position where your significant other left you for another person and then that person's suicide ended up leaving you in a position where you had to take care of a child that wasn't yours, you wouldn't be wondering what the f*** was going through their head before they killed themselves? Do you really think that you have some extrodinary emotional strength that would allow you take all of that in stride? Your short tempered emotional outburst makes me think not. >> Will you tell me where it says that Bob Had to deal with court systems over Tiger? He chose to fight for custody..no one made him.... From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]] > > Will you tell me where it says that Bob Had to deal with court systems > over Tiger? He chose to fight for custody..no one made him.... And this is bad thing? I mean, if you REALLY want to go down that road you're going to end up showing that he had compassion for a child who lost her parents to two suicidies. I mean, if he really hated Michael that much why would he have bothered? Not exactly a convincing arguement if you're trying to turn him into a bad guy. Your call. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology i'm going to try to get it tomorrow. how much did it cost? From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: [Inxs] look a little closer (bob's album) sometimes it wouldn't hurt... now, because i have angered dave in posting this bashing on bob geldof, i feel i should maybe apologize. maybe not everyone understands. michael is someone i think about constantly, almost everyday. and there was a lot more to michael than a drugged-up example of pure wasted talent. i'm not accusing dave of saying this, i know he never did. i know a lot of you like INXS purely for their music, and you don't touch on the topic on michael and/or his personal life/death. for once, i would like to say that listening to INXS, and i mean if you are TRULY listening to them, you must feel SOMETHING. you must feel some sorrow or something. because if you look at the lyrics and the emotion put into the music (some of it being purely michael) you can't say you like INXS "just for the music." so, being this maybe over-obsessed person that i am, i care. i care somewhat when a man who never actually KNEW michael goes and questions why he did something he has no actual proof happened. it would be the same if one of us just posted something saying, "why the f*ck did michael hang himself?" we are strangers when it comes to michael. we have no right to jump to conclusions. so, was bob there when michael supposedly hung himself? no, i don't believe he was, nor were any of you, neither was i. so i don't say, "michael hutchence committed suicide." because i don't know that for a fact. and no matter how bad of a person he was, he doesn't deserve to be blowed off like that. how would you feel if you died, and considering what people knew about you, they just made assumptions, declared them fact, and left it at that. pretty crummy, eh? i'm sorry dave, i know i jumped down bob's throat, but why exactly must he bring this up all of a sudden, in the midst of his family (tiger & co.) getting over the tragedy? i realize he has feelings to put into songs, but the death of michael doesn't belong in those songs. not the way it stands. it doesn't make the situation seem any more clearer, it doesn't prove anything or help anyone better understand, all it does is anger old demons. and as for the lyric on paula, maybe she had good reasons for leaving bob. i bet no one ever considered that seeing as how mostly everyone dismisses paula as a bad person. i've read several things about bob having flings behind paula's back, and maybe he didn't, but if you read that about paula i bet you would automatically believe it. but no, bob is incapable of such inhuman deeds. maybe he was compassionate in the decision to help tiger, but was it compassionate for him to just write a song about why people do the things they do, more specifically, why michael made an un-wise decision and hung himself, when he doesn't even know if that's what happened? and is does he think, "maybe the reason they did it was because of ME?" no. bob isn't looking for answers, i'm certain he must know some of them. i hope you can better understand why i got upset now. erica From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]] I am not sticking up for Bob Geldolf but I don't think that he is the monster that everyone has made him out to be. Let's face it...Paula was mentally sick and Michael was too. I love Michael with all my heart but the things he did toward the end of his life were not what you would call rational. After all he did take his life. Mixing booze with prescription drugs and illegal drugs was not something that a normal well rounded person would do especially with a child in mind. I know he loved Tiger with all his heart but both Paul and Michael had to be a bit self absorbed to put a small child through so much pain. I know what it is like to be on the brink of suicide and believe me no one knows or understands unless they have been there. I think that the lyrics in the song that Bob wrote were more on the lines of questioning what was in Michael's head. People who are not mentally ill cannot comprehend why people commit suicide. Long term use of Ectasy is said to rob the brain of serotonin and leave a depressive state of mind. Then add Prozac which is an anti depressant and then add booze which is a depressant and the end result is disastrous. I honestly believe that had Michael never met Paula he would still be alive to this day. She always had to be the center of attention and fueled many of the fires that Micheal so devotedly tried to put out. The old saying that love is blind could not of been more true in this case. I for one am thankful that Bob at least thought enough of Tiger to take care of her. Some sick people would take their anger out on the child but from what I have seen Tiger looks quite happy. I mean how stable is Michael's family?? Sorry if this pisses some people off but lets get a grip and stop trashing Bob Geldolf for asking why. Linda From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] look a little closer (bob's album) Everyone is upset over Michael's death. Look at the long time fans who were there in the beginning. I still have not gotten over Michael's death. It is easy to see what fame and fortune does to some people. Michael was a gentle loving soul but he also loved to live and he lived hard and I am not downing him for that. He had a right to do what he wanted to do but I for one do not believe that Michael died trying to do some weird sex act. He was in a horrible state of mind and used booze and prescription drugs and yes probably some illegal drugs to escape the reality of it all. I do not think any less of Michael because he committed suicide. When you are in that state of mind you do not think of the "what if's". No one is saying that Geldolf is a saint, lets face it we all have our faults but at least give him a little credit for asking why and for also taking care of Tiger. In Michael's solo album it was so obviously clear in some of the songs who he was directing his anger toward with out naming names. Geldolf is doing the same, lyrics are a way of venting. Linda From: "Gwen Hutchence" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]] If bob had an ounce of sensitivity he wouldn't dare use michael's name in song lyrics. Just proves my intuition that the guy is a creep. I am even offended for paula as well. From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: Bob's album on 6/4/01 9:47 PM, Erica Nicole at inxsbeautifulgirl@hotmail.com wrote: > so, being this maybe over-obsessed person that i am, i care. i > care somewhat when a man who never actually KNEW michael goes and questions > why he did something he has no actual proof happened. > it would be the same if one of us just posted something saying, > "why the f*ck did michael hang himself?" Ah, but that very question, asterisks removed, has been asked on the list many a time. I've asked it onlist myself, I'm sure - I know I've asked it offline. It all comes down to us thinking aloud, trying to make sense out of something that seems so senseless. As for saying that Bob "never actually KNEW Michael," what are you talking about? Of course he knew him! They most likely knew each other well before Michael and Paula hooked up, and certainly got to know each other in the ensuing years. He even ended up living in Michael's house, for God's sake (and vice versa). Of all the people in the world, Bob most definitely knew Michael. >but why exactly must he bring this up all of a sudden, in >the midst of his family (tiger & co.) getting over the tragedy? I realize he >has feelings to put into songs, but the death of Michael doesn't belong in >those songs. But he didn't just bring this up "all of the sudden." Most likely, these songs have been written over the course of the past 4 years - it's just that only now are they being heard by the general public, simply cause we don't all get monthly updates as to what Bob's been up to. And, from what my songwriting friends tell me, one of the *best* ways to get over or through something is to write about it. It seems entirely appropriate to me that Bob do this. After all, the old saying is "write what you know," and he's certainly "known" this situation for the past few years. When you say that Michael's death doesn't belong in "those songs," who are we to judge? Why would you (***and I don't mean "you" specifically Erica, just "you" in a general, anyone who's had this same reaction, way***) think Bono's writing about Michael's death is OK, whereas Bob doing the same is somehow wrong? If you read the lyrics to Stuck (in a Moment), you'll see that it's not exactly the most happy, blameless song out there either: I never thought you were a fool But darling look at you You gotta stand up straight Carry your own weight These tears are going nowhere baby and And you are such a fool To worry like you do I know it's tough And you can never get enough Of what you don't really need now These words sound pretty angry to me. Bono is, in effect, telling his friend to just suck it up and think for a second. As he's said in more than one interview about the song, Stuck... is an argument he wish he could have had with Michael. In the end, I see nothing wrong with Bob writing about the situation. Michael certainly wrote about it, and I have no problem with him for that either. And, at least as far as I know, Bob's been a real adult about the whole situation - no name calling a la "Satan Bob," no paranoid ramblings to reporters about "things" Michael was doing, the way Michael did in an interview not too long before his death, etc. OK, that's enough from me for one night. I've gotta go back to real life now... Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]]] gwenhutchence@webtv.net (Gwen Hutchence) wrote: > If bob had an ounce of sensitivity he wouldn't dare use michael's name > in song lyrics. Just proves my intuition that the guy is a creep. I > am even offended for paula as well. Once again, people are jumping and not thinking. Michael's name was NEVER used in the lyric that was posted. It was stated that the song was about Michael, but his name was not in the lyric. You're filling in things that aren't there because you are blinded by your emotions. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Courtney Chase" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! --- Catherine Stancl wrote: > Beautifully said. > All those articles and pictures of him with the > girls saying what a perfect > father, and what a kind and generous man he > is........ obviously a facade > for the dirtball that he really is. > Is he so egocentric that he cannot let them R.I.P? Playing devil's advocate here - um, what kind of perfect father kills himself? How egocentric can *that* be?!? I mean, really - Bob is no saint, but he's not the devil incarnate (no pun intended. get it? devil's advocate? devil incarnate? hehe - oh, nevermind). He's made the best out of a horrible situation and he is more directly involved in this situation than any of us who have been writing about Michael's death *in a public forum* for over three and a half years... it's incredibly hypocritical to say that he can't do it, but we can. Jeeeeez. Listen to yourselves and try to put the shoe on the other foot and realize that there are definitely at least three sides to every story, and yours isn't always going to be the right one. Try to realize that the one person besides Tiger that has been impacted more than anyone on this planet (even Kel, Tina, Rhett, or Patricia) is Bob, followed closely by his three other daughters. Their lives have been turned absolutely upside-down and if he wants to write a song about the emotions that he feels about what has gone on over the last four years, he has every right to. Courtney ===== "My dad always used to tell me that if they challenge you to an after-school fight, tell them you won't wait--you can kick their ass right now." ---Cameron Diaz From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! on 6/4/01 10:22 PM, Gwen Hutchence at gwenhutchence@webtv.net wrote: > If bob had an ounce of sensitivity he wouldn't dare use michael's name > in song lyrics. Just proves my intuition that the guy is a creep. I > am even offended for paula as well. But he didn't use Michael's name, he just made it clear who he was referring to. Plus, has anyone ever tried to rhyme "Hutchence "with anything? ;-) Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "Gwen Hutchence" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! hhmmm , ok , semantics , I phrased that wrong. I meant how dare the dirtbag REFER to michael in any way shape or form. geldof , who is obviously a control freak ,also tried to get custody of Tiger when michael and paula were both still alive. I'm waiting for the day geldof is found dead of a drug overdose. From: "Nicks One and Only" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! Um....wow.....I just have to say something. I know it's your opinion and all but....could you be any more wrong? And also that last comment was a very low blow. That would be great for Tiger to loose 2 fathers....how screwed up would that be? I seriously think you need to try to look at it from another angle...maybe reread Courtneys post...... Ruth From: "Courtney Chase" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! --- Gwen Hutchence wrote: I'm waiting > for the day geldof > is found dead of a drug overdose. And you think BOB is a horrible person??? That is a horrible thing to say about ANYONE. I don't care who they are or what you think they may have done, that's just horrible. You say Bob doesn't have the right to say anything about something that directly impacted his life, but you can basically wish him dead.... man, I'd hate to have your karma. ===== "My dad always used to tell me that if they challenge you to an after-school fight, tell them you won't wait--you can kick their ass right now." ---Cameron Diaz From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] look a little closer (bob's album)] "Erica Nicole" wrote: > sometimes it wouldn't hurt... > > now, because i have angered dave in posting this bashing on bob geldof, > i feel i should maybe apologize. You haven't angered me. I'm just trying to point out that people are jumping to conclusions without looking at things. As Nanci has pointed out, all of on this list have even asked the question ourselves, "What the hell was Michael thinking?" Why are we to condemn Bob for asking the same question? > because if you look at the lyrics and the emotion put into the music > (some of it being purely michael) you can't say you like INXS > "just for the music." Actually, I can. I didn't start listening to the band until about 92 and I didn't join the list until about 96-97. I literally spent five years eating up the band's music meanwhile knowing NOTHING about all the problems in Michael's life, or really anything about any of the other band members. There was nothing to the band for me except the music. Another thing you have realize is that, except for Elegantly Wasted, none of the bands music is really overly personalized. Anybody could have written "New Sensation" or "The Gift" and I don't mean that in terms of artistic talent, I mean that in terms of point of view. Again except for EW, there isn't much in the band's music that tells who they are. And, in my opinion, that makes for better music because its easier to identify with. Its more universal; I don't have to crawl out of my skin to relate the emotions being expressed. But this is outside the point being made. > i care somewhat when a man who never actually KNEW michael goes and > questions why he did something he has no actual proof happened. And how much more do any of us on this list know? Bob at least has actually had conversations with Michael. Not many of us here know him more than a handshake or a few spoken sentences during an autograph signing. > it would be the same if one of us just posted something saying, > "why the f*ck did michael hang himself?" we are strangers when it > comes to michael. we have no right to jump to conclusions. so, > was bob there when michael supposedly hung himself? no, i don't > believe he was, nor were any of you, neither was i. So why is that if Bob asks the question you are offended, but we ask it, you aren't? Its the same question. > so i don't say, "michael hutchence committed suicide." because i don't > know that for a fact. I don't mean to be rude and I hope this doesn't offend you to much, but eventually you're going to have to face the fact that he did. I'm not saying he did it on purpose. Personally, I think he just ended up in a VERY confused rage and did something stupid and impulsive during a moment when rational thinking didn't prevail. But nobody was in that room with him. If somebody else did it, there was no reported signs of a struggle, no witnesses, and nothing left behind. If there was somebody there, they did a damn good job of covering their tracks and odds are we will never know unless confess. If somebody was helping him and quitely slipped out, they aren't owning up to it. And I won't deny that other people may have been part of what drove him to that craziness, but they weren't in that room at the time. I have a hard time beleiving it wasn't his decision and that he wasn't alone. A very crazy, messed up, and confused alone, but alone. And if that's not the case, you can't blame Bob for acting on what information he has, because there is nothing out there to give him reason to think otherwise. > and no matter how bad of a person he was, he doesn't deserve to be > blowed off like that. how would you feel if you died, and considering > what people knew about you, they just made assumptions, declared them > fact, and left it at that. pretty crummy, eh? And once again, I have to ask you, where in those two lines of lyrics did Bob do all of that? Bob didn't make up Michael's suicide. He's simply reacting to the information he has been given. He's not a private detective or a reporter and its not his job to go hunt down the truth. > i'm sorry dave, i know i jumped down bob's throat, but why exactly > must he bring this up all of a sudden, in the midst of his family > (tiger & co.) getting over the tragedy? i realize he has feelings to > put into songs, but the death of michael doesn't belong in those songs. > not the way it stands. Cherry Baby was about the death of somebody Michael knew. Why weren't all of these objections brought out then? And why does he have to bring it up? Because its his music about his life. If people didn't sing about the things that affected him, half the songs on Elegantly Wasted wouldn't exist. > i hope you can better understand why i got upset now. We all get upset Erica, its part of life. I just think that rash and impulsive emotional outbursts need to be thought out before you say or do irrational things. Michael might still be alive if he had done that. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!] gwenhutchence@webtv.net (Gwen Hutchence) wrote: > hhmmm , ok , semantics , I phrased that wrong. I meant how dare the > dirtbag REFER to michael in any way shape or form. geldof , who is > obviously a control freak ,also tried to get custody of Tiger when > michael and paula were both still alive. I'm waiting for the day geldof > is found dead of a drug overdose. But you see Gwen, you don't get it and this post just proves the fact. You're reacting to the word Bob and not thinking about anything else being said. I bet if Bob said "I like chocolate" that you would condemn him to hell for that too. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: [Inxs] NIC (U2 on TV) Hi Everyone, I know everyone on here is not a Basketball fan or a U2 fan,but I thought I would pass this on,Weds. night between 10:00PM-11:00PM E.T U2 will perform live via sattelite from Boston during the half-time of the Lakers-Sixers game,they will do elevation for sure and one other song not yet mentioned,this was posted on the U2.com web site and It advertised on NBC which will be televising the game,I can hardly wait 1 week from tonight and they will be in Philly. Regards, Joe From: "Gwen Hutchence" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! Well ,Ruth , bob is NOT tiger's father. And when geldof dies , I plan to write a song about it. From: Scoobydoomusic@aol.com To: inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: [Inxs] turning 40 & inxs i turn 40 the same day the group releases its anthology album. to the best white r& b group ever, thanks for being part of my life. peace & love. From: "Donna B" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] look a little closer (bob's album)] If you go back to the source of the original problem, I say that you have to blame Bob..Everyone is entitled to happiness in their life right? (Paula) Bob created absolute hell for her and Michael, because, he didn't get his own way...did he?? eg. So I'm going through this in my own life now..minus third party..I just want some happiness with what life I have left (who knows howlong??) (I deserve it right?) and he's giving me such HELL it's going to end in tragedy (I know)..all because he can't have his own way, like a spoilt kiddie!! BTW... I've just yesterday got a Bob book from the library to read..I don't hate the guy but want to know more about the person bringing "our Tiger up" but shit, *uck, what a price was payed for a selfish, childish, foot-stamping act on Bob's part!! Cheers db From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! Grow up n get a life. I know, why don't you try to get Bob as the number 1 suspect in a murder conspiracy? You are obviously that close to going over the edge. From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! One last comment on my part...it took me over 3 days to start to see the other side of the story. I use to be so angry at Geldolf partly because I believed Michael's death was Geldolf's fault. I also blamed Paula because she played a big part in Michael's emotional state. Now she is gone too. Recently I have stopped pointing the finger because it is unproductive and gets me no where. We can all wonder the rest of our lives and expend a lot of energy pointing the finger. I am now able to see past the anger and hurt but it took me a long time to do so. Personally I think that Tiger is much better off with Bob than she would of been with her own mother. Paula certainly was not a good influence on the child for obvious reasons. Paula did not think enough of her own children to get her life together for their sake. Instead she chose to get wasted because she could not deal with the loss of Michael. I think it goes deeper than that...could it be that maybe she felt some guilt over Michael committing suicide??? After all she could not comes to terms with the suicide idea and was in complete denial. She obviously thought that she was so important to Michael that there was no way in hell that he would commit suicide and leave her and Tiger....WRONG! She created the whole nightmare and fueled the flame that drove Michael off the edge. The paranoia between the two of them was overwhelming and the hatred for Bob was a product of Paula's doings. Behind Michael's back she would fuel these fires and he was oblivious to it. She had a way of pushing people's buttons and I for one know people like that and when something goes wrong it is always said to be the other guys fault. I do think in the end that Michael did realize what she really was and who was the real problem but then it was a bit too late too soon. Sounds like I am pointing the finger again but it was Michael's choice to get involved and stay involved with Paula. And ultimately it was also Michael's choice to bail out because all in his life was just too overwhelming. Here is something to think about...maybe Bob Geldolf does not want to spend the rest of his life being bitter and hateful toward Michael...maybe he wants to move on but just wants to know why...it is not a crime to write lyrics about what hurts. Afterall Michael was quite good about doing that in his solo album. Tiger is where she should be, with the only real family she has ever known, her half sisters. I think that it took some maturity on Bob's part to take Tiger in under his wing and offer her a stable life. I do not think that Geldolf will be found dead of a drug overdose anytime soon. I think that he is beyond that stage in his life and knows that he has 4 children to set an example for and to be responsible for. I also believe that he will keep Michael and Paula's memory alive for Tiger and do not believe that he will taint the memories in any way. Linda From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! Excuse me I meant "3 YEARS" in the beginning of my post. LInda From: "Nicks One and Only" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! That might be the case Gwen, but to her he IS her father. He has been the one to love her, watch her grow, tuck her in at night, kiss the little bumps and scrapes she has gotten. Sure we all know who her FATHER is , but he made a choice that NONE of us understand...and never will. Lets not forget that he alone made the choice he did. Would we all like to change that? Yes. Can we? No. Ruth From: "Gwen Hutchence" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! I would never consider geldof her father. And michael's death wasn't a suicide , so he didn't make a choice. As tiger gets older , i'm sure she will see through all of geldof's manipulations. The tasteless lyrics in his song will give her a clue to bob's real character. I am done with this topic. You all can insult me all you want , I am entitled to my opinion. maybe you followers who worship st bob should set up a list just for him. On a more pleasant topic , I am going out right now to buy the anthology. Happy inxs everyone , gwen From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) > > it would be the same if one of us just posted something saying, > > "why the f*ck did michael hang himself?" we are strangers when it > > comes to michael. we have no right to jump to conclusions. so, > > was bob there when michael supposedly hung himself? no, i don't > > believe he was, nor were any of you, neither was i. > >So why is that if Bob asks the question you are offended, but we ask >it, >you aren't? Its the same question. to get things straight, i never have been comfortable with the fact of anyone asking why michael committed suicide, i do believe it is the same thing for bob to do so. i never said it as ok for us to debate upon michael's death, did i? infact, i haven't posted on here forever. no, i'm sorry, this statement does hurt: > > so i don't say, "michael hutchence committed suicide." because i don't >know that for a fact. >"I don't mean to be rude and I hope this doesn't offend you to much, but eventually you're going to have to face the fact that he did. I'm not saying he did it on purpose. Personally, I think he just ended up in a VERY confused rage and did something stupid and impulsive during a moment when rational thinking didn't prevail. But nobody was in that room with him. If somebody else did it, there was no reported signs of a struggle, no witnesses, and nothing left behind. If there was somebody there, they did a damn good job of covering their tracks and odds are we will never know unless confess. If somebody was helping him and quitely slipped out, they aren't owning up to it. And I won't deny that other people may have been part of what drove him to that craziness, but they weren't in that room at the time. I have a hard time beleiving it wasn't his decision and that he wasn't alone. A very crazy, messed up, and confused alone, but alone. And if that's not the case, you can't blame Bob for acting on what information he has, because there is nothing out there to give him reason to think otherwise." it offends me because maybe he didn't commit suicide! at the time of his death, little was said. we know very litte about what happened because it was brushed under the carpet. now, this DOES make me upset because you know, a lot of things about michael "hanging himself" don't make sense. i researched his death for 5 months for a project, i think i have maybe a tiny bit of insight into this matter. now, as much as i hate to asy it, and from what i've read and cried through watching, (any of you see the british special on michael w/ paula and kell where they actually SHOWED pictures of him lying there, naked and DEAD? i saw it, i had to go to school the very next day, eyes rimmed red and everything. that had a major impact on me and my thinking) i believe he death was accidental. ever read the book about his hand being broken and cuts and bruises on his face? tell me right now how someone with a broken hand can hang themself? those are all facts. facts concealed from people like me who want to know the truth. some guy thought it was wrong (just like i think it is wrong) and wrote a book about it. maybe you should read it. i know i may sound harsh or mean, i don't mean to. bob can qrite all he wants, but wil he ever write of the guilt? becuase whether it was his fault of not there is guilt. he WAS a pasrt of this whether he likes to admit it or not. he is allowed to sit back and question why michael mayb have taken his own life, but did he ever say, "well, that question could be answered. i WAS the one who denied him seeing his daughter one last time. maybe i was trying to eb good and keep her step-sisters in school, but what is more important, family or school?" no...maybe he's thought about that, i don't doubt he has, but has he ever written a song about his part in this mess? now, the only thing that upsets me greatly is the fact that we all just think we know everything little damn thing. we are SOOO certain and confident. i'm not certain as to what happened, i may think one thing, but i'm not saying his death was accidental, it's just a thought. maybe,stop for just a second. and think about the possibilities. because i've heard so many stories i've got lots of them. maybe you just openly accept the fact that he committed suicide because you are the complete opposite of me and you didn't pay attention to what was going on in michael's life. you said this, correct? you said you were too into the music at the time. being that i am only 13, i didn't have that advantage. i found out about michael AFTER he had died. therefor there was no time to ignore his death or what was happening in his current life. i found out about INXS, and now i have all their albums but it is because of michael. so i am somewhat the deeper listener, i don't listen to INXS for just the music, i listen to it to listen to the words, make sense of them. now, you say you listenend to "welcome." listen to "men and women" and "questions", and tell me there is nothing personal dealing with michael in those songs. i'm sorry, i'm very shaken right now. because i don't have fellow fans my age or even my parents to talk to about michael/INXS. all i have is this list. and sometimes when i say how upset i am about something said about michael, i feel that other people, being that they are fans like me, can understand and accept the way i feel. i know gwen says some things about bob that aren't right, because she has the right to say them, and not be condemned for it. i suppose bob has that same right, i just think he doesn't consider a lot of things. sure michael wrote "cherry baby" about a murder. but he wasn't a part of that murder, was he? he wasn't as big a part of it as bob was w/ michael. so i'm stopping with this post...i think i have explained enough. and people are probably already tired of hearing me post. in regards, erica From: "Lisa Williams" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! I've usually don't post my opinions on this list. I'm one of those who reads everyone's opinions and quietly agree or disagree. However, after reading close to 40 post this morning I feel that I have to say something about Bob. First off, I have been an INXS fans since the mid 80's and I still cry every single time I see an INXS video. I've bought every book that has came out since Michael's death, but can't read past the first few pages with out getting so upset that I have to put the book down. I still can't watch "Dogs in Space" even though I have 2 copies on video and one on DVD. With this said, I think that Bob is a pretty decent human being. I mean, aside from everything that has happened between him, Paula, and Michael, he did do LIVE AID and bring the world's attention to the problems in Africa. And the fact that he is the only parent to Tiger and will more than likely be the only parent she will know, says a lot about his character. Unfortunately, Tiger will have a lot of issues when she gets older. Let's hope between Bob, and Michael's family she will get the love and support that she deserves. Lisa --- Gwen Hutchence wrote: > I would never consider geldof her father. And > michael's death wasn't a > suicide , so he didn't make a choice. As tiger > gets older , i'm sure > she will see through all of geldof's manipulations. > The tasteless > lyrics in his song will give her a clue to bob's > real character. I am > done with this topic. You all can insult me all you > want , I am > entitled to my opinion. maybe you followers who > worship st bob should > set up a list just for him. On a more pleasant > topic , I am going out > right now to buy the anthology. Happy inxs everyone > , gwen > From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album)] "Erica Nicole" wrote: > i believe he death was accidental. ever read the book about his hand > being broken and cuts and bruises on his face? tell me right now how > someone with a broken hand can hang themself? those are all facts. While I respect that you probably have more knowledge on the situation than I do, you're not a coroner and niether am I. I can't answer all of those questions. But bruises on his face? So what? If he was in a state of mind where he was willing to commit suicide he certainly could have been in a state of mind where he was willing commit self abuse. Broken hand? You're assuming that he did most of the work after his hand was broken. If enough of the prepatory work was done before the injury one hand could have been sufficient. As for the book, I assume you are referring to "The Covert War Against Rock" and while I haven't read the book personally, a lot of people that have are saying that some of the logic isn't very sound or conclusive. Serious question though, if Michael didn't commit suicide, somebody had to pay off the authorities in charge of the case to do a coverup. There would have had to be a conspiracy. If there is a conspiracy capable of silencing so many people, why couldn't they have stopped the publication of the book? Or easier still, why not simply off the author and shut him up? He has less notariety than Michael did. It would be much easier to cover up his death than Michael's or anyone else's. I've also heard that, and you can correct me if I am wrong, that the author claims that "the Agency and Organized Crime have, for over thirty years, engaged in a program to silence popular musicians whose influence subverts the cynical thought control tactics of American Government and media?" If this is true, why Michael Hutchence? It's not like the lead singer of a washed-up 80's band has THAT much influence over the general population. EW was a commercial letdown. Whatever mass "influence" Michael had over America was long gone by 1997. It's not like he was ever politically active anyway (at least not stateside). Bono or Michael Stipe would be more logical targets. > now, you say you listenend to "welcome." listen to "men and women" > and "questions", and tell me there is nothing personal dealing with > michael in those songs. Ok, lets analyize "Men and Women". Who is giving him the sham? What are lies that he is closing out? Who lied to him? About what? What part of his past does he need to turn around? While I don't doubt that real life events were the catalyst for this song, nothing in the song even gives me a remote clue what those events are. We all get shafted by people who lie to us and we all wish we could turn back time. There is nothing in that song to identify it as a personal one. Again with Questions, nothing is specific. Anybody could be asking those questions of themself. (I beleive those are Andrew's lyrics anyway, not Michael's. I could be wrong.) Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Nicks One and Only" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! First off it doesn't matter whether any of us consider Bob her father or not.....what matters is that she does. How could she not when at the moment he is the only warmth and comfort she has. And further more I don't "worship" Bob. I just happen to think that for a lot of reasons I can understand, he is getting a raw deal. And saying Mike didn't commit suicide is a little out there.....no matter how you cut it he died by his own hand.....accidental or not! I have been a fan of his band for a very long time and I also bought the anthology today...went through bloody hell to get it....but love knows no boundaries....maybe you ought to think about that. Ruth From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album)] Very well said Davy, and it is absolutely possible that when the mind breaks that you can inflict serious injury upon yourself without feeling the pain. Look at what people can do to themself in a fit of anger. I think that there was absolutely no conspiracy or foul play in Michael's death. He simply lost it. Linda On 5 Jun 2001 10:30:46 PDT David Jones writes: > "Erica Nicole" wrote: > > i believe he death was accidental. ever read the book about his > hand > > being broken and cuts and bruises on his face? tell me right now > how > > someone with a broken hand can hang themself? those are all facts. > > While I respect that you probably have more knowledge on the > situation than I > do, you're not a coroner and niether am I. I can't answer all of > those > questions. But bruises on his face? So what? If he was in a state > of mind > where he was willing to commit suicide he certainly could have been > in a state > of mind where he was willing commit self abuse. Broken hand? > You're assuming > that he did most of the work after his hand was broken. If enough > of the > prepatory work was done before the injury one hand could have been > sufficient. > > > As for the book, I assume you are referring to "The Covert War > Against Rock" > and while I haven't read the book personally, a lot of people that > have are > saying that some of the logic isn't very sound or conclusive. > Serious question though, if Michael didn't commit suicide, somebody > had to pay > off the authorities in charge of the case to do a coverup. There > would have > had to be a conspiracy. If there is a conspiracy capable of > silencing so many > people, why couldn't they have stopped the publication of the book? > Or easier > still, why not simply off the author and shut him up? He has less > notariety > than Michael did. It would be much easier to cover up his death > than > Michael's or anyone else's. I've also heard that, and you can > correct me if I > am wrong, that the author claims that "the Agency and Organized > Crime have, > for over thirty years, engaged in a program to silence popular > musicians whose > influence subverts the cynical thought control tactics of American > Government > and media?" If this is true, why Michael Hutchence? It's not like > the lead > singer of a washed-up 80's band has THAT much influence over the > general > population. EW was a commercial letdown. Whatever mass "influence" > Michael > had over America was long gone by 1997. It's not like he was ever > politically > active anyway (at least not stateside). Bono or Michael Stipe would > be more > logical targets. > > > now, you say you listenend to "welcome." listen to "men and women" > > and "questions", and tell me there is nothing personal dealing > with > > michael in those songs. > > Ok, lets analyize "Men and Women". Who is giving him the sham? > What are lies > that he is closing out? Who lied to him? About what? What part of > his past > does he need to turn around? While I don't doubt that real life > events were > the catalyst for this song, nothing in the song even gives me a > remote clue > what those events are. We all get shafted by people who lie to us > and we all > wish we could turn back time. There is nothing in that song to > identify it as > a personal one. Again with Questions, nothing is specific. Anybody > could be > asking those questions of themself. (I beleive those are Andrew's > lyrics > anyway, not Michael's. I could be wrong.) > > Davy > > Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages > which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont > care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com > From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: [Inxs] bob's album and everything else hello everyone, since i am alone, and i probably am because my opinions still differ from those of gwen's, i suppose i DON'T have my facts straight and you seem to since everytime i say something you are the first to respond to it and say whether what i said is true or possible or not. i know "questions" was written by andrew. i never said, "tell me if you hear anything personal written by MICHAEL. i said, "and tell me there is nothing personal dealing with michael in those songs." andrew could've been writing for michael. it seems as though they were going through hard times together. anyway i won't say more on that since that is not what this post it about. i just want people to know that i DO NOT hate bob geldof. it's a funny thing when i first came to this list how there was a big discussion, everyone calling him "satan bob geldof." no one probably remembers, but i was one of the people who posted against calling him that. i don't think he's a bad person, i think he is human. and when everyone was in a mad fit after paula's death, saying how selfish she and michael were, giving her a few choice names, remember i was also the one who posted about them being humans and making mistakes. everyone probably forgot that, i'm not surprise or upset or anything if you do. but what i'm saying here is this: it seems the un-cool thing to do now since bob has taken tiger under his wing, to admit to any of the man's possible mistakes. before, like a year ago, everyone was giving him a bad wrap, and i remember destincly people saying, "well, i guess he's not that bad since he's taken tiger now," when i paula died. but he is a man too, and i happen to disagree with something he's done. so what? is that such a bad thing to have a different opinion? i'm getting all this flack about how bob has done many good things and how i shouldn't be saying he's wrong, but, give me a break. i never said i hated the man, i just said i didn't agree with this lyric. that's it. i don't agree with a lot of things paula or michael have done either. so i don't say anything on that. i know you gave me the low-down on this book, yada yada, still trying to convice me of what you may or may not believe; michael committed suicide. maybe the reason i deny so much or say all this is because i have forgiven him. that sounds stupid, i know, but he did something wrong, maybe it was his fault, maybe it wasn't. the fact remains that we all do stupid things. i have been to the point of wanting to kill myself before but i was not michael, i wasn't taking prozac (although i was on paxil) and my career wasn't going to the dogs, so i suppose that's the reason i thought better of it. but just for one second put yourself in michael's shoes. i'm sure everything he was going thorugh was so hard on him that he had no one to talk to (and he didn't, really) so he wanted to go away form it all. can you really blame him? i mean, if he would've tried to better the situation, which he had at times, everything blew up on him and he was at stage one all over again. maybe i tend to look at "stuck in a moment" a little differently. i hope everyone knows that i have infact heard the song, i own all their albums (U2) i am a huge fan, i was a bono fan before i was a fan of anything. that is how i discovered who michael was. i think of that song as asking why michael would betray bono's friendship like that, as in, bono was michael's dear friend and bono thought he knew everything about michael. he is angry because he finds out he didn't know enough to possibly save his friend's life. that's what i think of it. don't correct my interpretation because it's an opinion, a thought, a feeling. maybe i don't compare bono's song to bob's because bono was a FRIEND of michael's, and he actually did have a positive view of him. he tried to understand what was going on with michael, and correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think bob ever sat down on the beach with michael while the kids played in the background and talked to him about his problems. bono did. so i believe bono has a better picture to paint of michael than bob does. a more accurate light to portray him in. his words mean something different. michael used poor judgement, i don't hate him for it, and i don't say i know what happened because i don't. and bob DID NOT know michael, no matter how many times he had met him before paula or how many times they talked on the phone (and just because he moved into his house doesn't mean crap.) you can know somebody as long as you live, and still not KNOW them as a person or what they're capable of. so i'm sorry if i "need to grow up" or "get a life". that's what someone said and it really hurt my feelings because all i'm doing is saying how i feel. i thought that was what the list was for. go ahead and correct the errors i made in this post, i'm tired and i need to stop explaining my deep thoughts to people who don't really wish to hear them. i just don't have anyone else. i guess i'll call my backstreet boy loving girlfriend and talk to her. regards, erica >i believe he death was accidental. ever read the book about his hand >being broken and cuts and bruises on his face? tell me right now how >someone with a broken hand can hang themself? those are all facts. While I respect that you probably have more knowledge on the situation than I do, you're not a coroner and niether am I. I can't answer all of those questions. But bruises on his face? So what? If he was in a state of mind where he was willing to commit suicide he certainly could have been in a state of mind where he was willing commit self abuse. Broken hand? You're assuming that he did most of the work after his hand was broken. If enough of the prepatory work was done before the injury one hand could have been sufficient. As for the book, I assume you are referring to "The Covert War Against Rock" and while I haven't read the book personally, a lot of people that have are saying that some of the logic isn't very sound or conclusive. Serious question though, if Michael didn't commit suicide, somebody had to pay off the authorities in charge of the case to do a coverup. There would have had to be a conspiracy. If there is a conspiracy capable of silencing so many people, why couldn't they have stopped the publication of the book? Or easier still, why not simply off the author and shut him up? He has less notariety than Michael did. It would be much easier to cover up his death than Michael's or anyone else's. I've also heard that, and you can correct me if I am wrong, that the author claims that "the Agency and Organized Crime have, for over thirty years, engaged in a program to silence popular musicians whose influence subverts the cynical thought control tactics of American Government and media?" If this is true, why Michael Hutchence? It's not like the lead singer of a washed-up 80's band has THAT much influence over the general population. EW was a commercial letdown. Whatever mass "influence" Michael had over America was long gone by 1997. It's not like he was ever politically active anyway (at least not stateside). Bono or Michael Stipe would be more logical targets. >now, you say you listenend to "welcome." listen to "men and women" >and "questions", and tell me there is nothing personal dealing with >michael in those songs. Ok, lets analyize "Men and Women". Who is giving him the sham? What are lies that he is closing out? Who lied to him? About what? What part of his past does he need to turn around? While I don't doubt that real life events were the catalyst for this song, nothing in the song even gives me a remote clue what those events are. We all get shafted by people who lie to us and we all wish we could turn back time. There is nothing in that song to identify it as a personal one. Again with Questions, nothing is specific. Anybody could be asking those questions of themself. (I beleive those are Andrew's lyrics anyway, not Michael's. I could be wrong.) Davy From: "meghann r matwichuk" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) really good point here -- i was just watching a vh-1 behind the music special this morning about tom petty & the heartbreakers. he talked about 'pulverizing' his hand by slamming it into a wall, practically disintegrating five bones and endangering his career. all this damage due to a fit of rage and frustration over a mix of one of his songs. this seems kind of small compared to the problems running through michael's head at the time of his suicide. it's amazing the damage a person can inflict on his or herself, especially when drugs and alcohol are involved (as they undeniably were in michael's case). just a thought. meghann On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 lrm99@juno.com wrote: > Very well said Davy, and it is absolutely possible that when the mind > breaks that you can inflict serious injury upon yourself without feeling > the pain. Look at what people can do to themself in a fit of anger. I > think that there was absolutely no conspiracy or foul play in Michael's > death. He simply lost it. Linda From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) Meghann wrote: >really good point here -- i was just watching a vh-1 behind the music >special this morning about tom petty & the heartbreakers. he talked about >'pulverizing' his hand by slamming it into a wall, practically >disintegrating five bones and endangering his career snip >it's amazing the damage a person can >inflict on his or herself, especially when drugs and alcohol are involved >(as they undeniably were in michael's case). And, don't forget adrenalin. Though I've never attempted suicide, I'd think that, once someone decides to do it, there's surely some sort of adrenalin rush if for no other reason than the person then will likely think that whatever it is that's been causing them so much pain is finally going to be "over." And, with the adrenalin rush, coupled with the alcohol and drugs, as Meghann pointed out, there's no telling what, if anything, Michael was feeling at the tine. Another theory (why not go gory all the way here?) is that the split lip and broken hand all happened *after* the belt was around his neck. The body is naturally going to try to breathe, so to stop himslf from breathing there's no telling what he may have done (i.e., punched the wall, bit his lip trough, etc) Nanci From: NJTalker@aol.com To: inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: [Inxs] Food for thought on top of all else Hey all, I have been reading all day all of these posts...damn! With all the passion shown here, could you imagine the possibilities we have as far as doing something to affect a change? It is funny that the current debate is underway as I am leaving to go on "my pilrimage" as my brother and sister call it, to Australia. Also, I was speaking with someone from OZ who mentioned that she was a friend of a friend of the last person who saw Michael and had some "interesting" things to share as per that person (how much value should one place on these kinds of stories though?). Let's just say it set my wheels spinning and the conclusions I had once drawn were ripped to shreds. I also just want to say for the record that while Bob does have custody of Tiger, there is a whole Hutchence family who loves her and would do anything for her but Bob has made it damn hard for them. People plan phone calls clear across the world and when the call goes through, Bob is there, tapping on the phone, goofing with Tiger while she is trying to talk to her relatives. Another thing you all should know, and I know that you can take it as you wish, but Bob did not make life easy for Paula or Michael during their separation process. Bob DID take her to the cleaners for which she borrowed money from Michael; if you don't mind my saying so, that pretty much speaks volumes to me. Now that I am just one in a sea of posts on this day where I guess we should all be greatful for the release of the anthology (kind of sad though as I feel that the band is closing a chapter to start a new...now I know there will be a zillion posts on that comment ;) ), I really hope that everyone will "behave" and "make nice". After all, wasn't he all about LOVE and PEACE? That is what a majority of us say when we close our notes.... So as I am off to the land of INXS, let me bid you all..... Love and Peace, Marlo :p "There's nothing if the truth won't survive"-Michael Hutchence From: "Ben Swinfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! --- Gwen Hutchence wrote: > I would never consider geldof her father. And > michael's death wasn't a > suicide , so he didn't make a choice... So, someone else must have put the belt around his neck!! belt around neck + hanging by it = suicide!!! From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: [Inxs] the anthology i got my copy. it was on sale for $26.99 at tower records. it looks like it will be on sale until june 20th. i love all the pictures. unfortunately one of my favorite pictures of the band - the black and white on the rhino site - isn't in the booklet. anyone know if it's possible to get a poster version on the picture? or an 8 x 10 of it. i'd love to have it to put up in my home. that's the link to the picture in case you are wondering. http://www.rhino.com/features/photos/74262inxsbw1.jpg this is bittersweet since the concert that was cancelled would have happened last thursday. (no i'm not upset since i had awesome dead center seats - LOL - i'm recover) were the songs digitally remastered for this anthology? just wondering From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] Food for thought on top of all else] NJTalker@aol.com wrote: > I also just want to say for the record that while Bob does have custody > of Tiger, there is a whole Hutchence family who loves her and would do > anything for her but Bob has made it damn hard for them. Oh, I won't claim the main is a saint either and I don't doubt that there are problems. But remember what the original issue was here. Regardless of what you mention, Bob still has the right to question why Michael killed himself. > but Bob did not make life easy for Paula or Michael during their > separation process. Bob DID take her to the cleaners for which she > borrowed money from Michael; if you don't mind my saying so, that > pretty much speaks volumes to me. You'll have to forgive me if I'm not sympathetic. It was Paula who left Bob, not the other way around. She was the one who went after Michael and basically destroyed their marriage. You'll have to forgive me for not thinking that such infedelity should be rewarded. As for what Michael did, that was his decision. Bob didn't take that money from Michael and he didn't have to give it, he offered it up on his own. If Paula didn't have the cash maybe she should have settled what she should have known was a losing court battle. Paula's actions speak more volumes than Bob's. > Now that I am just one in a sea of posts on this day where I guess we > should all be greatful for the release of the anthology (kind of sad > though as I feel that the band is closing a chapter to start a > new...now I know there will be a zillion posts on that comment ;) ) My only comment is that it would be nice if they would actually START writing that new chapter. > So as I am off to the land of INXS, let me bid you all..... Have fun. I hope you enjoy yourself :-) Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Donna B" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! You can't say that Michael died by his own hand Ruth..So anyone that was following their life when it happened, I'd like to know their first thought/reaction?? Mine was that Bob's had Michael bumped off..what perfect timing and planning, I mean if your going to do it, your going to plan it good & right, right?? He was a Sir/knighted, who knows (we can only imagine)what the British establishment is capable off, eg.Princes Di.. Who knows their English sovereignty history?? Disgracing Bob that's treason/treachery..for sure their bumped off.. Just a thought..what can we do..SFA From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] bob's album and everything else] "Erica Nicole" wrote: > i just said i didn't agree with this lyric. that's it. True, but you did it in a very emotional and judgemental manner under two very important circumstances. 1) He didn't say anything most of us haven't thought. By critizing him, you were critizing others. 2) You have seen the full song so you don't know the context. All I'm saying is that you should wait and see the finished product before passing judgement. I might think its offensive when I've seen it, but as it is now those two lines can mean anything. > maybe i tend to look at "stuck in a moment" a little differently. > i think of that song as asking why michael would betray bono's > friendship like that, as in, bono was michael's dear friend and bono > thought he knew everything about michael. I think this is a fair assesment, but also because you've had to chance to hear the WHOLE SONG. Think about this, if you had heard that somebody wrote a song about Michael that had the lyrics "You are such a fool" or "And you can never get enough/Of what you don't really need now" you might think they were calling him a selfish idiot. Context means everything. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! In a message dated 6/5/01 4:46:19 PM, dbinxs@hotmail.com writes: << So anyone that was following their life when it happened, I'd like to know their first thought/reaction?? Mine was that Bob's had Michael bumped off..what perfect timing and planning, I mean if your going to do it, your going to plan it good & right, right?? He was a Sir/knighted, who knows (we can only imagine)what the British establishment is capable off, eg.Princes Di.. Who knows their English sovereignty history?? Disgracing Bob that's treason/treachery..for sure their bumped off.. >> Wow, that is really sick! The same man who had the compassion and caring to help save the dying in a country far away from his own accused of having his wife's lover murdered. I think that statement is best left unsaid or kept to one's own overly indulgent imagination. Now are you also saying Princess Diana was murdered as part of a conspiracy? Luckily Bob Geldof was too busy to lend a hand in that event, also, he and Diana were friendly. It's very sad Michael is gone. He is very much missed every day. I doubt quite highly Bob Geldof would be the type of man to have someone murdered. Unless you were one of the players involved, it is all supposition and second and third hand information at best. We were not there. From: Cathy To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology Thanks for the heads-up, Roro! I will look for it tomorrow. From: "Cathy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) Good point-I knew a girl in college who broke her foot when she was drunk, and didn't feel it until the next day. Alcohol is a pretty good anesthetic. As far as what you can and can't do with broken bones-how many times do you see Olympic athletes compete with stress fractures of all kinds? People can do anything, if they want to enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "meghann r matwichuk" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) > really good point here -- i was just watching a vh-1 behind the music > special this morning about tom petty & the heartbreakers. he talked about > 'pulverizing' his hand by slamming it into a wall, practically > disintegrating five bones and endangering his career. all this damage due > to a fit of rage and frustration over a mix of one of his songs. this > seems kind of small compared to the problems running through michael's > head at the time of his suicide. it's amazing the damage a person can > inflict on his or herself, especially when drugs and alcohol are involved > (as they undeniably were in michael's case). > > just a thought. > meghann > From: "Cathy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! I can remember exactly what my first reaction was. It was a Saturday morning, and I had been to my first Ani DiFranco concert the night before. Hubby was at work, but I had nothing going on, so I made a cup of hot chocolate and sat down to read the paper. Buried in the front section was a two-or three paragraph story about how the body of the singer for the "80's Australian superband INXS" was found in a hotel room hanging from a belt. I don't remember my first thought, but I felt an overwhelming rush of sadness that an obviously troubled person hadn't gotten help. A couple months earlier, I had been fortunate enough to see INXS on their Elegantly Wasted tour, and it was pretty d**n obvious, even from waaaaaaaaaay back in the balcony, that Michael was in a world of hurt. I remember discussing it with my husband on the way home, and he was confident that everything would be ok. After all, the guy had money and connections. He could afford to go to the best doctors in the world, and he was surrounded by his bandmates, the people that knew and loved him best. For whatever reason, that didn't happen-and I will always wish that I could have been able to do something. From: "Cathy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]] OK, this will be the last response, I promise! Sheesh! Every time I ignore my email for a couple of days, the list explodes!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [[Inxs] Bob's new album, sounds GREAT!]] > Let's face it...Paula was > mentally sick and Michael was too. I love Michael with all my heart but > the things he did toward the end of his life were not what you would call > rational. After all he did take his life. Mixing booze with > prescription drugs and illegal drugs was not something that a normal well > rounded person would do especially with a child in mind. I happened to see a *very* interesting documentary about drug abuse the other night on MSNBC (?? could have been Discovery Channel). Someone had studied changes in brain chemistry and blood circulation (using CAT scans and MRI) in people addicted to heroin, compared to non addicts. Turns out that people who get addicted to heroin appear to be missing certain neurotransmitters that would usually stop one from doing something life-threatening (the "WAIT A MINIT! Jumping off a building without a parachute will kill me!!" reaction.). For some people the damage appears to be chemical and genetic, but the same result has been exhibited by people suffering from certain kinds of brain trauma, including blows to the head. I wish I could remember more, but this was several weeks/months ago. That comment about the brain damage sure got my attention, tho! From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [Inxs] Aristocratic conspiracy? Ha! on 6/5/01 7:44 PM, Donna B at dbinxs@hotmail.com wrote: > He was a Sir/knighted, who knows (we can only imagine)what the British > establishment is capable off, eg.Princes Di.. > Who knows their English sovereignty history?? As one who holds an MA in British history, and therefore *does* know British History, I can't help but read this and think, "What?!?" What on earth does British history and a member of the British aristocracy (and just a life peer at that) have to do with *any* of this? If you've got a question about what a "knight" can or can't do, let me assure you, ordering that someone be bumped off is NOT on the list! In fact, when someone receives a knighthood like Bob's, it basically involves them attending a ceremony with the sovereign, getting a little medal, doing the photo op, and then going home. That's it. Yeah, they can call themselves ""Lord or Lady So-and-so," but they've not really gained anything. It's just something cool that they can say they've done or been awarded. Bob was knighted in recognition of his service to humankind with the coordination/establishment of Live Aid. Paula obviously was proud of this fact (as she should have been), as evidenced by her continued use of the courtesy title "Lady Geldof" (as you'll recall, she flew under that name to Michael's funeral). > Disgracing Bob that's treason/treachery..for sure their bumped off.. Do you even know what the term "treason" means? It's defined as, "Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies." How does that figure into Bob, Michael, Poula, and (the initial spark of this whole debate) the writing of quasi-inflammatory song lyrics? BTW, I'm really bothered by the insinuation that the British "establishment" may have something to do with all of this. God knows, I'm Irish and certainly don't want to give the Brits any more credit than they deserve, but to imply that they would become involved in something as stupid, pointless, and ultimately sordid as this is really just insulting. (Not to mention, IMO, not a little bit paranoid and delusional.) Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: K WithaKris To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Cc: inxs2000@yahoogorups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology I went to Virgin Megastore today and got my copy ($34 after taxes eek!)...I am really sick today, and had to leave work early, but I couldn't go home until I picked up my copy!!!! The booklet IS incredible!!!!! 60 pages!!!! The songs sound GREAT, so far I think it came out as a wonderful tribute to Michael (I have yet to fully experience it yet, I am in the middle of it right now). I do have to say, when I entered the store, I went right to the New Releases stand up front to look for it, and it wasn't there...Then I went to the INXS section, and there were 2 copies, I took one. When I got the the cashier, I asked why it wasn't in the new relases section, she asked a few people, eventually asking a manager, and he said "you know, I was wonder the same thing! I don't know why it wasn't put out there, it should have been"...I was waiting for him to say he would put it out, but never did...I wonder if they did it after I left...they BETTER have!!! :o) Anyone in NYC, go check up on them LOL (the Union Square one) heehee ...Kris (with a K) From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - KLOS Hey, once again for fans in southern California, 95.5 is giving away "Shine Like it Does", so I'm listeing!!:) Shine Like it Does, ~Jennifer From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's album In a message dated 6/4/01 7:31:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nanci@digitalcastle.com writes: << I never thought you were a fool But darling look at you You gotta stand up straight Carry your own weight These tears are going nowhere baby and And you are such a fool To worry like you do I know it's tough And you can never get enough Of what you don't really need now These words sound pretty angry to me. Bono is, in effect, telling his friend to just suck it up and think for a second. As he's said in more than one interview about the song, Stuck... is an argument he wish he could have had with Michael. >> But Bono was saying it as a friend, and Michael personaly hurt Bono through this because he was a good friend. Bob wasnt. I mean, if my friend commited suicide I would be pretty angry too. Bob did it, imho, w/o the love of a friend. ~Jennifer From: NJTalker@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology I got my copy at a Barnes and Noble in NJ and I had to ask for it!!! This was at 7 pm. They only received ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is up with that! marlo :p P.S. GO SEE MOULIN ROUGE! I loved it! From: NJTalker@aol.com To: inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: [Inxs] How do u feel? Okay, okay...I think we are all reeling from the wounds! I just want to take a sec to try and bring it down a bit in here....what a long silence we have had and NOW WE ARE YELLING AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As much as we are all passionate about INXS and these are just words on a screen, they do hold a great deal of power. To that end, I just would like to ask each and every one of you to "CHILL" a bit as some people are acutally shedding tears about this...now I know that there are those who feel they need to respond to EVERY post in a rather rabid fashion, so crucify me if you must but.... Please think before you type. Hey, here is a new topic for all of us: LACAVOCAL (off INXSIVE) and STAY YOUNG (off UNDERNEATH THE COLORS) have the same tune in em...and guess what??? You can sing the chorus to SLIDE AWAY to all of them!!!!!! HOLY S**T!!!! LOL Love and peace and hair grease! marlo :p From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect Hi. Is it true that Michael was a guest on Politically Incorrect, and if it is, where can I get a copy of it? Thanks. Erin From: "Donna B" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Aristocratic conspiracy? Ha! Didn't like that Idea Nanci..LOL..with the treason I meant Paula doing what she did to Bob, is it against the establishment rules..I noticed Fergie doesn't have a new husband..know what I mean... But yes it is a bit over the top, but you never know do you.. I'll stop now with all my crazy thoughts..dont' want to upset any more people.. cheers db From: "Stefan" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Anthology Overseas Hi David, I just can tell you that in germany it is "Edel" who`ll release the album. INXSteFAN ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: [Inxs] Anthology Overseas "dennis zanin" wrote: > > Can anybody please tell me when the inxs anthology is released in > Australia. I asked a few record stores and none of the knew. It's going to be a U.S. release only. I read something somewhere about how the American distribution rights are held by a different company than who controls the distribution every else in the world. Anthology is being made by the American distributors and they don't have the rights to ship it overseas. You'll have to find an import dealer to order one for you or find somebody in the states who would be willing to ship one to you. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Ian" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:13 AM Subject: [Inxs] INXS is alive and well It is great to hear the Central Coast radio ( where Garry lives) playing INXS constantly, leading up to the guys' " Just for Kicks " concert at a large club here on the weekend. It is a holiday weekend and so INXS will be playing until late, Sunday night. Since it is literally 2 minutes from my front door, I decided that I just had to go. :-)) Looking forward to seeing the guys again and hearing the very capable Jon Stevens who is stepping in for our Mike. Love and peace, Ian From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] turning 40 & inxs Respect and congrats to u! Have a great day. From: Stefan To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology Will this still be the second time when INXS or Michael Hutchence stuff will flop because of bad promotion ???????? I can`t believe that. What the hell is Rhino Records like ? Stefan From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] look a little closer (bob's album)] Can't people let this go with Bob? 1.Michael publicly did the dirty on Bob with his wife. Love or lust, still wrong. If it were me I'd be more than pissed too. 2.Having got her man Paula wanted to take all hers and Bob's kids her to her new lover and suggest they deem him "Daddy". Forgive me, but that is just kicking him in the balls isn't it, after a humiliation in full press view. 3.Paula also wanted to take the kids with her wherever Michael was meant to be. This too is stupid, globetrotting when kids should be in school, schools they have been in for several years, stable, settled backgrounds tossed away because a mother has become infatuated with another man. The kids she had with Bob were not babies, but children who were accustomed to a set lifestyle of stability and a circle of friends. If anything I'd say that Bob was justified in any outrages with Michael because he was half of the cause of his marriage break-up. Michael arguing with Bob defending Paula would obviously make him dig his heals in further. Even when they divorced Bob said he still loved Paula passionately. I idolised Michael I miss him and "THE" band greatly. He was no saint, and relished his darker side, which is well documented. He was a fool to get involved with Paula, old enough to know better and knew the risk of being caught. His mistake though, was he got caught. Once the press found out and the unexpected magnitude of the story of being caught took him over, events meant he couldn't drop Paula like a stone and was even deeper in when she became pregnant (something I believe was planned by Paula not a joint plan). Michael and Paula were meant for each other of that I am convinced but they should've done the deed way back when INXS did the Tube, when their attraction to each other was first struck up. Too much baggage had been gathered by '95, and from then too eternity they will now have to live with the fact they were too bloody stupid to leave each other alone. Peace and love to Tiger From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: look a little closer (bob's album) The pictures in the documentary were not of Michael but silhouettes of bodies in the same sort of position Michael was discovered, to describe the theories expressed for his death within the programme. No pictures of Michael dead were shown at-all. From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! Jeez did Geldof kill Kennedy too? From: "Dawn aka Angel" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:30 AM Subject: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does- Anthology Hi all, I'm probably really late and all, but I got the Anthology yesterday (to my suprise they actually had it, luckily it was new music Tuesday!) and for anyone who doesn't have it, you should get it, if not for the music (since alot of us probably already have most of the songs already), then for the booklet. Great pics, David Frick's essay, Andrew's commentary on each song, VERY cool. Personally I also got to hear new material, like b-sides, remixes and the songs from INXSive. Well, that's all for me, later every1! D. From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! I saw INXS on the EW tour at the Birmingham NEC, UK and though Michael was completely (if I'm honest, drugged) out of it. Totally on auto pilot. I'd seen him the same way on the X-factor tour and thought the same then. My understanding is that around the time of X-factor he was a heavy, heavy user of Ecstasy. To be honest on the EW tour that night I knew I'd never see the band in that form together again. I went alone cause no-one wanted the spare ticket I had, the seats were the worst I'd ever had for an INXS show and for some reason I was fixated on why he needed a cigarette in hand through out the whole show. He was a lost soul that night and if I could see it why couldn't those closest and able to help him see it? From: "Mark Morris" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:59 AM Subject: [Inxs] WOW Nothing on this list for like 2 weeks, despite the anthology release and the Just For Kics tour. Yet as soon as someone mentions Sir Bob, well WOW. As I have said before I believe Mr Geldof was only doing what any other single separated parent would do, That is he wanted his family to be close to him for Christmas. Get over it please. You can't change the past. (as much as we'd all like to) And as far as the song lyric goes, well look at EW album, Michael basically wrote about his life experiences on that album, Bob did the same on his album. SO WHAT!? Gotta sing about something. Please get on with life and enjoy the music. I'm going to see INXS (with Jon Stevens) on Friday and Sunday, CAN"T WAIT! WOOHOO! Mark From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: [Inxs] Re: What is Rhino Records like? Rhino records is a small record shop on Westwood Blvd in the UCLA area of Los Angeles...it has to be a small crowd that night cause that store is not big at all! marlo :p From: "MARY LYNN ORZECHOWSKI" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology I just ordered my copy of the Anthology $22.00 + $3.00 shipping. This was the best price I've seen it for so far. Mary Lynn From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: [Inxs] Re: Politically Incorrect on 6/6/01 12:03 AM, Erinxs@aol.com at Erinxs@aol.com wrote: > Is it true that Michael was a guest on Politically Incorrect, and if it is, > where can I get a copy of it? He was on, in Sept (or thereabouts) of 97. It was embarrassingly bad though, I thought. The other panelists were John Schneider (Beau Duke from The Dukes of Hazard), Howie Mandel, and someone else who I've now forgotten. Michael said about 4 words the whole half hour. Granted, Beau Duke dominated the entire show, and was really annoyingly right-wing to boot, but really, Michael did not come off well. I think part of the problem was that he wasn't really all there, and also that the issues being discussed were, for the most part, domestic US ones, a subject on which we can't really expect him to have been too terribly well-informed. Bill Maher did do a nice job of plugging the EW CD though, held it up a few times, and commented on how he liked it. Overall though, if I were Michael my appearance there would have been something that I'd hope everyone (myself included) would have forgotten all about. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] the anthology i'm going to answer my own question. yes it was remastered. atleast that is what it says in the credits. for the people who have the anthology what do you think of the booklet. i love all of the pictures except the one on the cover. it's probably because i don't like jon with blonde hair and what is that thing in the middle of his forehead? i don't notice it on any of the other pictures. last night i was surfing the web and noticed the anthology is on ebay. it was going for less than it cost in the stores so if you haven't gotten it yet it may be there. at the tower records in philadelphia the anthology was in the new release section. made it real easy for me to see it! i'm at work and i have my headphones on and ready to listen....... later. From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology Hi Mary, Where did you ordered it from? I am from Portugal and ordered mine at my local import store, but it still rated as unreleased in their site so far, i think i should buy it elsewhere. Any sugestions for european fans? I do not have a credit card. Thanks in advance, Regards to everyone Pedro From: "Kuti Csaba" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology Hi Guys, Does anybody know when this new CD will be released in Europe (Hungary?) csaba From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect erin let me know if you get a copy of this. if he was on i'd love to see it. From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] WOW enjoy the concert. i'm still sad the tour of the states got cancelled but my anthology is helping me get through it. LOL From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology ordered it from where? that is a great price! >From: "MARY LYNN ORZECHOWSKI" >Reply-To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >Subject: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology >Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 04:21:24 -0700 > > > >I just ordered my copy of the Anthology $22.00 + $3.00 shipping. This was >the best price I've seen it for so far. > >Mary Lynn From: "McFerran, Michelle (Factiva)" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology hey marlo & all... you know, i drove past the barnes and nobles and was thinking about buying it there, but i didn't... you know, we probably drove right past each other, too on route 1... hahaha... i went down the street to best buy & got my copy for $29.99 plus tax... well worth it... awesome CD. i love the pictures and everything. it was a beautiful tribute to michael... :-) take care... michelle Michelle McFerran Technology Staff Assistant direct number: 609-627-2568 fax number: 609-627-2940 Factiva, a Dow Jones & Reuters Company Factiva Technology Department P.O. Box 300 Princeton, New Jersey 08543-0300 e-mail: michelle.mcferran@factiva.com www.factiva.com " ... if you're tired of Web searches that produce more chaff than wheat, you should get acquainted with Factiva, a joint venture combining Dow Jones Interactive and Reuters Business Briefing." -Robert Bartley, The Wall Street Journal- From: "McFerran, Michelle (Factiva)" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: [Inxs] forgive me, but... okay... i really wasn't going to say anything here, but come on people... isn't this getting a little ridiculous and been taken a little too far?? i think all this fighting and bickering about bob's songs has got to stop RIGHT NOW... i for one, don't agree with what bob has done, but he has a right to express how he feels just like all of us do... remember, if we don't like it, we do not have to listen to it... it's the same thing with the list... if you don't like what's being said on the list, you can always hit the delete key... this is not to say that i support bob, but i do have a little more respect for the man who has gone all out to take care of little tiger. he's given her a good home to live in, she's living with her step-sisters, she knows who her REAL father is and is trying to grow up with a normal childhood. think about it... could be worse people, A LOT worse. if bob didn't get custody of her, and tina & patricia didn't get custody of her, just think of what her situation would be right now? god only knows who would have either adopted her or what. at least she's with someone who can tell her about her father and not some stranger and give her a good childhood. so what if bob's songs are personal, so were michael's. for pete's sake, look at michael's solo album. that album was writing exactly how he was feeling at the time. did we cut up on michael for what he was saying on there?? no!! bob has feelings, too. keeping feelings inside just doesn't help any. maybe this is part of bob's therapy. he's had a lot to deal with. loosing his ex-wife and taking care of 4 girls here. remember, you DO NOT have to listen to it if you don't want to. you do have a right to choose here. we are not being forced to listen to it... IT'S YOUR DECISION!!! also, about michael death... look, when someone is suicidal, (i'm speaking from personal experience here) you really can't think of anything else. your mind is so focused on killing yourself or doing harm to yourself, you don't think of anything else... my first suicide attempt from what i remember, is that i was just thinking of myself, not my family, not my friends, no one! NO ONE will EVER know what was going through michael's mind. as i've said many times before, rhett is the one who summed it up perfectly, "no one will know what really happened that day but god & michael." why can't we just leave it at that and let michael, rest in peace??? okay, i've said my part... so come on now... let's be happy that the "anthology" CD has been released and talk about that. let's not focus on the negative stuff so much. we all said what we had to say, but now it's getting old and we are just running around in circles. no one can change anything... it's done and over with unfortunately... PLEASE REMEMBER: everyone is entitled to their own opinion whether it be right or wrong. we don't need to jump down each other's throats. no one really knows what's going on and besides, it's a personal issue with the hutchence/geldof family. let them work it out. not us!! thank you!!! michelle (dutchie) Michelle McFerran Technology Staff Assistant direct number: 609-627-2568 fax number: 609-627-2940 Factiva, a Dow Jones & Reuters Company Factiva Technology Department P.O. Box 300 Princeton, New Jersey 08543-0300 e-mail: michelle.mcferran@factiva.com www.factiva.com " ... if you're tired of Web searches that produce more chaff than wheat, you should get acquainted with Factiva, a joint venture combining Dow Jones Interactive and Reuters Business Briefing." -Robert Bartley, The Wall Street Journal- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Re: Bob's new album, sounds GREAT! This list was so dead for a while that I thought I'd been unsubbed but there's certainly no mistaking it now - this list is wide awake!!! Courtesy Sir Bob........ All I want to say about this issue is that ultimately, we are all responsible for our own lives. Blaming Bob Geldof or Paula Yates on Michael's fate is absolutely useless and ridiculous. Michael was a product of 38 years of accumulated experience, feelings, thoughts, not to mention spiritual evolution. From the moment of his birth to the last second if his life, he was shaped by the environment in which he grew up in and the decisions that he made along the way. How and why his life ended in that hotel room almost 4 years ago shall remain a mystery forever. To lay the blame for his demise on Bob Geldof or Paula Yates is like saying the universe is made up of a couple of planets and one or two stars........ Talk about an understatement!!!!! Michael's life was much more complex than some on this list have given him credit for. - Chris ne4inxs@aol.com From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect andrew was a guest on politically incorrect. they are re-airing this i believe on june 20th. check out musicstation.com and type in "inxs" in the search and you'll see when the airing times are. erica From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect thanks for the info. i'll check it out. From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology] "Stefan" wrote: > Will this still be the second time when INXS or Michael Hutchence > stuff will flop because of bad promotion ???????? I can`t believe > that. What the hell is Rhino Records like ? Rhino records rarely releases new materials. You have to remember that this the same company that makes most of its money off of 50's and 60's reissues. Their promotions department is small relative to other major labels and rightly so. You have to realize that from a business perspective, its rare for "greatest hits" or re-release to make very much money. Putting money into promoting these kinds of albums is almost flushing it down the toilet. Rhino isn't a bad company, they're just doing what any reasonable company would do to maintain profits. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect I don't think this is a re-airing -- this appears to be a new episode. The show will be taped June 19 -- which just so happens to be when Andrew and Kirk will be in the states on their mini-promo tour for the new anthology. -neil > andrew was a guest on politically incorrect. they are re-airing > this i believe on june 20th. check out musicstation.com and > type in "inxs" in the search and you'll see when the airing > times are. > erica ===== Neil Kothari, M.D. Bellevue Hospital/New York University Medical Center An Excess of INXS -- http://INXSweb.com NP: PJ Harvey "Stories From the City, Stories From The Sea" The Best of 2000 -- http://www.geocities.com/nkoth/music2000.html From: Stefan To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: [Inxs] Cd cover for Kick Hi everyone, just a short question. Is there anybody who can send me the cover of Kick ( special edition Cd with the bonus tracks ) with an e-mail ??? Thanks Stefan From: "Cat Inxsive" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: RE: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology I have been playing the Anthology non-stop since I bought it. It is such a wonderful tribute to Michael and the best band in the world! The essay and liner notes are great! I do have one question though--- and if this was already mentioned, I apologize, but does anyone know when the guys are supposed to come to Toronto for the Anthology promo? I can't seem to find the info anywhere. I must be missing it. Thanks to anyone who has the answers!!! Cat From: NJTalker@aol.com To: inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:47 PM Subject: [Inxs] Hey LA and OZ! Wanna party? am gonna be in Australia this summer and would love to meet my fellow inxsaries!!! And I will be in LA on my trip back home....so..... WRITE ME and we can hang! marlo :p (can you guess what my fave colors are? LOL) From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shine Like It Does - The Anthology I listened to it all day at work today. I dont see much difference in some of the songs that seem like they would be remixes. I LOVE the Searching mix .. that is a great finish to it. I got mine at Best Buy .. yep .. in the INXS section .. not NEW section and was 30 bucks. Friends just laugh "dont you have all those songs".. I said some I have on tape .. VERY nice to have all those songs on 2 cds!!! I have yet to get thru the whole book but am loving reading about how the songs came about. and once again .. WHY WASNT MEDIATE ON AFTER NEED YOU TONITE??????????????!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Rhino .. You put out the "Valley Girl" soundtrack and made me very happy a few years ago .. thank you again!!!!!!! As far as Bob's new album. I havent read most of the posts. Michael was pretty harsh in some of his songs. They were ALL in alot of confusion and pain. Why can't Bob express that too. I changed my views on him alot when it seemed Paula was the drama director. Now that he has taken Tiger in and given her the stable home she desparately needs right now .. He earned my respect. NONE of us know what all went on between all of them. It seems Bob rose above it all and stepped up to be a real adult and a man whom it seems only goal is to make sure the girls are taken care of. I am still reading the book by Michaels Mom and Tina .. I chuckled at the line about the insanity of Bob getting Tiger when they found drugs under the bed and they feared losing Tiger. How freakin ironic. No one in their wildest saddest dreams imagined the poor child would be an orphan. I do hope measure are being taken to see that Tiger DOES know her father's family. Anything worth doing is worth going thru any and all hoops!!! hugs and peace Laurie From: "Cat Inxsive" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: [Inxs] another question.... Hello all, Just wondering what was the song Tim Rice and Andrew wrote for the "Tim Rice Spectacular" last year?? I've had a temporary brain cloud. Thanks! Cat From: "leeann smilelee" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Cd cover for Kick Howdy, What are the extra tracks on the special edition? From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Cd cover for Kick Hi Leeann, The extra tracks on the japanese import are: Devil inside(Re-mix version) New sensation(Nick 12" mix) Move on Need you tonight(Mendelsohn mix) Different world Guns in the sky(kick ass mix) Hope that helps. Regards, Pedro From: To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Politically Incorrect << it true that Michael was a guest on Politically Incorrect, >> Yep! I remember seeing it when he was on. From what I remember, he didn't really have too much to say when he was on. It was when he hair was black and long, he was wearing a light blue shirt when he guested :) Of course I would remember what he was wearing! LOL Chris M. From: "McFerran, Michelle (Factiva)" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: [Inxs] just to make a point... :-) You think this song is about you! As Bob Geldof gets his revenge on Michael Hutchence in a song, the other tunes with a very personal message JUNE SOUTHWORTH 06/07/2001 Daily Mail Associated Newspapers Ltd. 1ST 32 (Copyright 2001) IT SEEMED the most civilised of break-ups when Bob Geldof moved out of the family home in Chelsea to allow his wife, Paula Yates, to live there with her new lover Michael Hutchence, and decamped to live in the cramped quarters vacated by the INXS singer. But hell hath no fury like a lyricist scorned, and Bob finally gets his own back on Hutchence on his forthcoming album with a song called Inside Your Head which bitterly recalls that time: 'You got the gold, I got the lead . . .You got the palace, I got the shed.' As an offensive weapon, a pop song lyric can really hit the mark. But not all are settling old scores. As JUNE SOUTHWORTH reveals here, many are tributes to the writer's nearest and dearest . . . CARLY SIMON You're So Vain (1972) Best line: 'You're so vain. I bet you think this song is about you.' Subject: Award-winning actor/director Warren Beatty? Their story: Renowned ladykiller Beatty really did think this song was about him. But was his onetime lover Carly sending up his well-known narcissism, or warning off her later lover, pop lothario Mick Jagger? Carly wasn't telling. JOHN DENVER Annie's Song (1974) Best line: 'You fill up my senses, like a night in the forest.' Subject: His wife Annie. Their story: On a college tour in his early 20s, the former architectural student met and married Ann Martell. He wrote Annie's Song after their first marital tiff. They had separated for six days and, after a tearful reconciliation, he wrote this karaoke favourite in ten minutes. The marriage broke up after 14 years in 1983 and after the estrangement he sawed the marital bed in half. GEORGE MICHAEL Jesus To A Child (1994) Best line: 'I'm blessed, I know - Heaven sent and Heaven stole. You smiled at me like Jesus to a child.' Subject: Brazilian dress designer Anselmo Feleppa. Their story: A lament for George's close gay friend who died, aged 33, from an Aids-related brain haemorrhage two years after they met in Rio de Janeiro in 1991. The song featured on Older, the album George dedicated to his lost love. CHRIS DE BURGH Lady in Red (1987) Best line: 'Never seen you looking so lovely as you did tonight.' Subject: His wife, Diane. Their story: Sadly, Chris was no gentleman, and the Lady In Red saw red when her apparently devoted husband had a fling with the babysitter of their three children in 1995, 17 years into the de Burgh marriage. He confessed on Irish radio and fell weeping into his wife's arms. His seminal love song survived the scandal . . . and so did his marriage. PAUL McCARTNEY Hey Jude (1968) Best line: 'Hey Jude, don't make it bad, take a sad song and make it better.' Subject: Originally, John and Cynthia Lennon's son Julian. Their story: When Lennon left Cynthia and went off with Japanese artist Yoko Ono, their son Julian was desperately unhappy. McCartney visited Cynthia and five-year-old 'Jude', with a red rose for her and the song he said he had written for Jude, telling him: 'Don't be afraid .. .' When Cynthia was granted a divorce in November 1968, Yoko was pregnant with Sean. MADONNA I Deserve It (2000) Best line: 'Many hearts, many years have unravelled leading up to today.' Subject: Guy Ritchie, British director of hit films Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch. Their story: 'This guy was meant for me,' sang the American superdiva. He was her blind date at a party thrown by Sting's wife Trudie Styler, they married in grand baronial style in Scotland, and she gave him a son, Rocco - a brother for her daughter Lourdes. DONOVAN Jennifer Juniper (1986) Best line: 'Is she sleeping, I don't think so; is she breathing, yes, very low.' Subject: Jenny Boyd, sister-in-law of George Harrison. Their story: Jenny, the pretty younger sister of Patti, inspired Donovan's catchiest song, but she was a passing phase. The girl who captured his heart and featured in many of his songs was a model called Linda Lawrence. They married in 1970, lived happily ever after, and have three children. ROD STEWART Maggie May (1970) Best line: 'The morning sun when it's in your face really shows your age.' Subject: An older woman with whom Rod enjoyed a one-night stand. Her identity has never been revealed. Their story: They spent a night together in a tent on a CND march and the cocky young Rod callously immortalised her shortcomings, before going through a string of pneumatic blondes. Now he's a particularly wrinkled rocker she wouldn't find him quite so sexy. STING (POLICE) Every Breath You Take (1983) Best line: 'Every move you make, I'll be watching you.' Subject: Frances Tomelty, Sting's first wife. Their story: They met as virtual unknowns in his native Newcastle and the fiery Irish actress had a passionate marriage with Sting. But, by 1983, the marriage was rocky. Sting, still very possessive, wrote this cruel and menacing little song. Eventually, though, he went off with his future second wife, Trudie Styler. GEORGE HARRISON Something (1969) Best line: 'Something in the way she moves, attracts me like no other lover.' Subject: Harrison's first wife, model Patti Boyd. Their story: A 19-year-old film extra when she met George on the set of The Beatles' film, A Hard Day's Night, doll-like blonde Patti married him in 1966. Three years later, George wrote this song just as time was running out for their marriage - singer Eric Clapton was falling in love with Patti, and would soon be using her as his muse. NOEL GALLAGHER (OASIS) Wonderwall (1995) Best line: 'I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now.' Subject: Wife-to-be Meg Mathews. Their story: When love was all, Oasis songwriter married long- term girlfriend Meg in a secret ceremony in Las Vegas in 1997, but they had a very public parting last year after she claimed his lifestyle was too boring. She was a dedicated clubber and big spender; he wanted a quiet life in the country. BOB DYLAN She Belongs To Me (1965) Best line: 'She's got everything she needs; she's an artist, she don't look back.' Subject: Protest singer and folk queen Joan Baez. Their story: Baez was a star when Dylan was singing in small clubs, but after his affair with her he never looked back. This came out in March 1965. Months later it was a case of It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, and then he sang: 'How does it feel, to be on your own, with no direction home, like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone?' ERIC CLAPTON Wonderful Tonight (1980) Best line: 'She puts on her makeup and brushes her long blonde hair, and then she asks me "Do I look all right?" And I say "Yes, you look wonderful tonight".' Subject: Patti Boyd (again). Their story: Clapton stole Patti from best friend George Harrison, and in 1972 his group Derek And The Dominoes released Layla, about a man obsessed with a married woman. They finally wed in 1979, parting four years after he wrote Wonderful Tonight about her. RICHARD ASHCROFT (The Verve) The Drugs Don't Work (1997) Best line: 'Now the drugs don't work; they just make you worse. But I know I'll see your face again.' Subject: His mother Lynne. Their story: The Verve's moody singer-songwriter wrote the 'urban hymn' - taken up as a clubber's anthem - after watching his hairdresser mother Lynne's struggle to overcome illness. His first solo album included Everybody ('Everybody's got to feel the weight of death some time'), about the death of his father, Frank. ERIC CLAPTON Tears In Heaven (1992) Best line: 'Would you hold my hand if I saw you in Heaven?' Subject: Clapton's treasured son, Conor. Their story: In March 1991, guitar legend Clapton's four-and-a- half-year-old son fell to his death from the 53rd-storey window of the New York home of his mother, Italian actress Lori Del Santo, from whom Clapton was estranged. The lament Clapton wrote as a tribute to Conor was played at the funeral of tragic murdered toddler James Bulger. Michelle McFerran Technology Staff Assistant direct number: 609-627-2568 fax number: 609-627-2940 Factiva, a Dow Jones & Reuters Company Factiva Technology Department P.O. Box 300 Princeton, New Jersey 08543-0300 e-mail: michelle.mcferran@factiva.com www.factiva.com " ... if you're tired of Web searches that produce more chaff than wheat, you should get acquainted with Factiva, a joint venture combining Dow Jones Interactive and Reuters Business Briefing." -Robert Bartley, The Wall Street Journal- From: Mitch in Oz To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: [Inxs] Tour/TShirt Question Hello guys Have asked this question on here before but no-one seemed to know. Since the list is kinda busy at the mom, thought I'd ask again.... Does anyone know which INXS tour sold the following T Shirts.. A: Black with "Hot Monogomy" on the front with INXS on back B: White with black red & white newsprint/articles all over it. I have these T shirts which I bought years and years ago and some of their concerts but I cannot remember which ones (heady days those) Also, wonder if anyone else either has any of these or has seen them, At present I do not know of anyone who has them let alone know what I'm talking about. Here's hoping some one can help Mitch in Oz From: Stefan To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:14 AM Subject: [Inxs] ...the new CD Hi everybody, well you americans seems to be lucky guys, cause the 2-Cd has not been released in germany. Edel Records did not give any comments... I ordered it from a friend who has a musicshop. We still have to wait for a while or order it from america which might be very expensive with shipping coasts,.... Bye Stefan From: Matt & Jennifer Pearson To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: [Inxs] Anthology - guess how much I paid? Got the anthology this week. The only copy in the store. Sigh. I love it, but I can't believe I paid $47.99 Canadian for it. Actually, I would have paid twice that. I'm reading the biography by Tina and Patricia right now. I haven't read the others. Love and peace. Jennifer From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:33 PM Subject: [Inxs] Anthology - WOO HOO!! Hello, I just got "Shine Like it Does". When I opend the booklet and saw the Michael Tribute, I felt like crying. I'm on "Stay Young" right now. I didnt know about the virsion of "The Loved One" other then off Kick, which one was this off of? I'm happy to see my older sister was trying to take it from me...I know that sounds odd but she hates INXS, but now I'm beganing to convert her...exelent:) ok I'm kinda rambling now... Shine Like it Does, ~Jennifer "Love is like a rocket"~Ross Childress From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: "inxslist" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: [Inxs] SOTW revived? Hi all, I'm not trying to usurp Sue's position in the least, but it occurred to me this afternoon, now that the Anthology is out, would reviving SOTW be something people would be interested in? We could go in the order of the tracklisting (starting with disc 1), and see what happens from there. I know I've never heard most people's thoughts on We Are the Vegetables, the first INXS version of The Loved One, etc. So, how about it? Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "Ashlynne F" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] SOTW revived? sounds good to me. From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Anthology - WOO HOO!! Hi Jennifer, The loved one version from the anthology was released as a single in 1981 i guess, i'm not sure if it was before or after underneath the colours release, but i think it was before. You're very lucky to have the anthology by now, i ordered mine weeks ago at my local import store and so far nothing. It seems like it is hard to find it in Europe...any suggestions? Cheers, Pedro From: "Ian" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: [Inxs] INXS's Last Concert of the Oz Tour I just came back from seeing the boys do their last concert of their mini "Just For Kicks Tour" . I must say they were just fantastic and Jon Stevens was so respectful of Michael, He never once got in the way of the songs and he paid Michael the greatest of compliments by doing such an outstanding job. They dedicated "Never Tear Us Apart" to our dear friend Michael Hutchence" and Jon mentioned at the end how Michael had fronted the band for 20 years and what a privilege I guess he was saying to be singing tonight as the frontman for INXS. A number of times he humbly acknowledged to the crowd ..."INXS!!!". He even gave the traditional peace sign at the end. From the opening number, "New Sensation" to the closing "Don't Change", the band played with gusto and sent the audience wild. Jon Steven's closing remark was, "This is our last gig, not sure if there will be anything else in the future, so if not, hey what a special night you have experienced." I really found tonight seemed to have a healing effect on the band and the entire audience. A highlight was when Kirk sang "Shine Like It Does". I really think Michael would have been thrilled that the guys were back at it and presenting his part of INXS so well. It was great to see some of my old musician friends and the odd former music students in the audience. Another highlight for me was embracing Dave Lesley ( " Baby Animals" ) - a former guitar student for 6 years, who was there as a VIP guest. He has been working on an album with Garry Cheers, Ian From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: [Inxs] Deepest Red Hey guys, downloaded a song called Deepest Red from Napster, does anyone know the history (time of recording, why it wasn't released) of this song? Jim From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red Hi Jim, Deepest red is a b-side for Heaven sent together with 11th revolution(Tim solo track) and it ain't easy. The australian edition includes also Heaven sent(gliding version) wich is brilliant. I believe that track is from the X sessions, but i'm not sure. Regards, Pedro From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red thanks for the heads up. From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red In a message dated 6/13/01 8:51:52 AM, Jimavfc@aol.com writes: << downloaded a song called Deepest Red from Napster, does anyone know the history (time of recording, why it wasn't released) of this song? >> Awesome song isn't it ? Jewels From: "Mitch Robertson" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] INXS's Last Concert of the Oz Tour Hey All, Last nite on Rove Live they announced the major leads in the musical HAIR, and Jon Stevens is in it, so this perhaps explains the uncertainty of INXS's future with Jon Stevens, etc. Also in INXS news, it was the best day on the radio today. It was my first day back from four weeks off with a broken toe, and within the first few hours the radio station that's on at work (Hot FM) played two INXS songs, Devil Inside and Just Keep Walking, then at 2:00 there was two more songs (Mystify and I can't remember the other) on during the two o'clock two-ups. And then just before I left work at 5, they played New Sensation. That's the most songs I've heard in one day for ANY band, let alone INXS!!!! Well that's it from me. See ya, >MITCH From: Mark Morris To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Tour/TShirt Question A: Black with "Hot Monogomy" on the front with INXS on back B: White with black red & white newsprint/articles all over it. Hey Mitch Both shirts are from the Full Moon Dirty Hearts tour of Australia in 1994. Mark From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red apparently, I'm told this track is from around the X or WTWYA sessions. WTWYA in my opinion is the band's greatest period both performance and experimentally in the studio and the track is nothing like anything else on that album. If it was from the WTWYA sessions then I don't think it would've sat well on that album. So probably this is more likely from the X period. (Unfortunately I am not a big fan of the X album, too polished, too down and too serious. Also the performance Michael gave at the NEC Arena, UK on that tour was rubbish and ruined that whole period of INXS for me. I believe he was heavy into Ecstasy at the time and to say he was as high as a kite during that performance, is an understatement. Thankfully the GOOTH tour restored my faith in him as a performer, he was majestic. Mind you this was to be tarnished again when I saw the band for the last time when I saw him on the EW tour. The man wasn't on this planet that night at the NEC.) Anyhow, back to the plot. This track (Deepest Red) would've been a great addition to the X album, lightening the tone. Musically it sounds a little Springsteen, and a dance remix version would be a smash hit even now I think. Love the sax throughout. Nice work Kirk. Michael's vocals are so sultry, so smooth, the voice of a God, pure sex. As a guy I have to admit, Michael was just sex on legs upto 1995. If I could've been any rock-star up to then it would've been Michael by a long, long way. His voice and looks and hair were perfection. Damn, he had it all in spades. I miss him, and I miss the cool that surrounded him which I feel has been lost because of the circumstances of his death and the preceding 18 months press about him and Paula. Also continued by scandal that is associated with Michael's name since his death, and as an afterthought to stories about Paula and Bob and not for what he was and achieved. I have a real problem with VH-1 and their lack of "memory" when it comes to Michael and the guys, they got great exclusives from INXS and the guys gave loads of time to that channel and they seem to forget all about them on Michael birthday, anniversary of his death, etc. USERS!!!!! Does anyone have any suggestions for b-sides/bonus tracks that were outstanding and should've been album tracks in their own right? I'm talking full on INXS tracks with Michael's vocals not member solo projects. On another subject, am I the only person who thinks Deliver Me on the Greatest Hits album is completely pants, weak as hell and never plays it? I've given that track so many chances to knock me out over the last 6 years. I go back to it after a period of time and give it a whirl but it still sucks. Guys, what were you thinking? From: "Danilo Meira" To: "INXS Mailing List" Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:46 AM Subject: [Inxs] Deliver Me Hello! Personally, I think that Deliver Me is one of the greatest INXS all-time tunes. GH was the first INXS album I had bought, and made me discover who played many tracks that made my childhood happy :-) I said "Hey, these guys are OK" the entire disk...But the song that really got us (me and my friends) was certainly Deliver Me...It is fantastic IMHO, and had all the ingredients to be a sucessful single back in 1994...since than, whenever I feel down, I listen to it! > On another subject, am I the only person who thinks Deliver Me on the > Greatest Hits album is completely pants, weak as hell and never plays it? > I've given that track so many chances to knock me out over the last 6 years. > I go back to it after a period of time and give it a whirl but it still > sucks. Guys, what were you thinking? See Ya! Danilo Meira From: "James Jarvis" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red Hi Couldn't agree with Jim more. I think Deepest Red is probably my favorite of the b-sides and would be a glorious dance track if remixed. Also I too have little time for Delivery me. Fine as an average album track/B-side, not fine as an inclusion on their greatest hits. But it's all subjective ain't it. Later James From: "eric reed" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: [Inxs] random stuff howdy y'all wow! just like someone else had said, I have given deliver me numerous chances and I still REALLY can't get into it. but I think it's cool that danilo likes it. always good to hear someone thinking differently. let's see...I've been "away" for some time, so let me try to catch up with other stuff. someone asked when deepest red was recorded, and it was indeed during X. I've read that info somewhere, and it's easy to figure out if you notice the producing credit goes to chris thomas. why it wasn't included on X, I don't know. I think it's better than half the songs on X. umm...what else? I just got my copy of the anthology last week and I'm pretty satisfied with it. I would have liked to have seen more rare stuff, considering I owned everything on that album already. the only things I didn't have were the 2 dekadance songs on CD. only on cassette. I am glad some songs were remastered. especially the swing songs. one thing that's bugged me about the swing is that the volume of the album is considerably lower than most others. so it's nice that they juiced up those songs a bit. and they didn't give us the extra short version of original sin that appears on the greatest hits album. I think I actually like the packaging and booklet more than listening to the CD! haha eric reed --- Danilo Meira wrote: > Hello! > > Personally, I think that Deliver Me is one of the greatest INXS > all-time > tunes. ===== got milkshake? get to know eric reed at: http://www.members.tripod.com/skippythefrog/skippy.html From: "K~" To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] random stuff Hello everyone... Personally I agree with Danilo... I don't think "Deliver Me" is the "best" INXS song of all time, but I do really enjoy it... at first it took me awhile to get into it, but it wasn't long before it grew on me, LOL... I got my copy of the anthology yesterday... it's a good collection!! I agree with eric though... I do kind of wish there were more rare tracks included since the only songs I didn't already have were "Good Times" and "Different World"... it's a very good collection though! Overall I am very pleased with it... the booklet is great and the song by song thingy is very cool... Karen From: Stefan To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:18 AM Subject: [Inxs] Jon and INXS Hi all, I just wanted to let everybody know that I think ( and this would not everybody feel happy ) the time is right for INXS and for the whole world to except Jon as their new frontman. I know that Michael was the perfect frontman, but time has changed... After 4 years a band couldn`t always play their old stuff. They should record and produce new songs. I think that`s also what the guys want- they want to go on. I feel a little pain as I read the mails about the last gig . I hope they`ll go on. It makes me feel pain if I think about a split. If everybody does their own shit, it wouldn`t work. I had not the chance to see INXS with Jon live, but I have some Live concerts and I think it works brilliant. I like Jon and I like his voice. So, after all this Best of things it`s time for a new period... and I am ready to take off with INXS. English is not my home language but I hope that everyone could understand what I am talking about. Thanks for your time INXSteFAN From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: [Inxs] Deepest Red Hello everyone, Well, I think we'll have to turn to Neil to clear up the confusion about this song.... I never really took notice before, but I realized that I have 2 versions of Deepest Red - one that lasts 3min20 as a b-side to the Heaven Sent Aussie CD single recorded in 1992, and the other that's 4min50 from a Japanese import CD titled "One Voice: The Songs of Chage & Aska". This particular album, produced in 1996, is a compilation of various artists performing Chage & Aska's music, including Michael Hutchence, Maxi Priest, Marianne Faithful, London Beat, Boy George, and a few others. I always believed that Deepest Red was originally written in Japanese by Ryo Aska, as is written in the CD booklet and that the English interpretation and adaptation of the lyrics were done by Michael. Deepest Red on this Japanese CD was produced by Chris Kimsey. But now that I took a closer look at my Aussie CD single, I realized Deepest Red was recorded by INXS in 1992, and credits Chris Thomas as producer, with Jon and Michael performing. Seeing as how it was released as a b-side to Heaven Sent, I can only assume it was part of the WTWYA "era" and not X, as Pedro or Eric mentionned. So who wrote the original version?!! Was it Ryo Aska or INXS?!!! In terms of actual song, upon listening to both carefully I noticed there is a difference between the 2 versions: apart from duration, the Aska version is fuller and seems to have more depth. There are other voices that harmonize with Michael's voice and there seems to be a lot more brass instruments used vs. the Aussie track that has only the saxophone. I have to admit I prefer the Japanese version - it's longer, and has more body to it. Who can help us clear the confusion? -Chris ne4inxs@aol.com From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: [Inxs] Deliver Me I never used to like this song, but one day I decided to actually listen to the lyrics, and now not only do I love it, but I find it's one of the sexiest, most seductive songs by INXS!!!! I'm in, a crowded room Can't hear a single word they say They're just talking faces I don't believe I know your name I smell ya on my finger tips I hear ya whispering I feel ya all over me I'm never gonna be the same What ya trying do to me, is tell me the rules of the game Ya see me shaking right through Don't be surprised I'm looking this way Deliver me from your spell...... ;-))))))) From: "Stewart Christie" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red Huh? Now I'm confused! Are you not getting mixed up with 'Red Hill'? That was the track on 'One Voice'. I'd be interested in hearing a longer version of 'Deepest Red' if there is one...it always struck me as slightly unfinished. Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: [Inxs] Deepest Red > > Hello everyone, > > Well, I think we'll have to turn to Neil to clear up the confusion about this > song.... > > I never really took notice before, but I realized that I have 2 versions of > Deepest Red - one that lasts 3min20 as a b-side to the Heaven Sent Aussie CD > single recorded in 1992, and the other that's 4min50 from a Japanese import > CD titled "One Voice: The Songs of Chage & Aska". This particular album, > produced in 1996, is a compilation of various artists performing Chage & > Aska's music, including Michael Hutchence, Maxi Priest, Marianne Faithful, > London Beat, Boy George, and a few others. > > I always believed that Deepest Red was originally written in Japanese by Ryo > Aska, as is written in the CD booklet and that the English interpretation and > adaptation of the lyrics were done by Michael. Deepest Red on this Japanese > CD was produced by Chris Kimsey. > > But now that I took a closer look at my Aussie CD single, I realized Deepest > Red was recorded by INXS in 1992, and credits Chris Thomas as producer, with > Jon and Michael performing. Seeing as how it was released as a b-side to > Heaven Sent, I can only assume it was part of the WTWYA "era" and not X, as > Pedro or Eric mentionned. So who wrote the original version?!! Was it Ryo > Aska or INXS?!!! > > In terms of actual song, upon listening to both carefully I noticed there is > a difference between the 2 versions: apart from duration, the Aska version is > fuller and seems to have more depth. There are other voices that harmonize > with Michael's voice and there seems to be a lot more brass instruments used > vs. the Aussie track that has only the saxophone. I have to admit I prefer > the Japanese version - it's longer, and has more body to it. > > Who can help us clear the confusion? > > -Chris > ne4inxs@aol.com From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 2:06 PM Subject: [Inxs] Shake the Tree Well since everyone seems to be posting about songs they love, I'll join too lol. I jsut reasently got EW, and I love "Shake the tree", it's an amazing song. The whole CD is Amazing, like "Girl on fire", those two songs are probably 2 of their best! Shine Like it Does, ~Jennifer "Love is like a rocket"~Ross Childress From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red I believe you're confusing red hill and deepest red. I don't see a lot of similarity between both songs though...let us know about it. About deepest red, i still think it's a track from the X era as the production and the sound are all X and Chris Thomas. On the single i prefer it ain't easy, i know that most of you prefer deepest red but i sure think the it ain't easy is better!!! Regards, Pedro From: "Pedro Queirós" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shake the Tree Hi jennifer, I totally agree with you on this one, shake the tree is just brilliant as the whole EW cd is...and i have it since the first day out( April 7th 1997 ). In fact i didn't liked the album very much at first but then it grew on me and it's probably my favourite album. My favourite tracks are everything, shake the tree, we're trown together and the brilliant building bridges. EW rocks!!!!! Pedro From: "Neil Kothari" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Deepest Red As many of you have pointed out, I think there is some confusion between Deepest Red and Red Hill. Deepest Red is a track that was initially supposed to be on X, but was then left off. It eventually surfaced as a much loved B side from Welcome... and if memory serves me correct, was the "Favorite B Side" winner in the last mega-poll of fans. Red Hill is a Chage & Aska tune that Michael re-interpreted in English. Both are wonderful songs. :) -neil From: "fraser.ingram" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: [Inxs] Please post this to the INXS mailing list http://shop.ministryofsound.com/prism-mall.cgi?dpiframe=Y&dpi=mosd18&isource =D002&tuo=N&cart_id=2744151_11178 Hi, I heard about this track on the new Ministry of Sound album (dance compilation) There is a remix of an inxs track (not sure which one as I haven't got my copy yet) - it's on the track listing as "Tall Paul vs INXS - Precious Heart" Anyway, the link above is the ministry on line shop... spend and enjoy... Fraser. From: "Dawn aka Angel" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: [Inxs] INXS on Clarissa On Nickolodeon they were showing an old episode (from 1991) of Clarissa Explains It All, and the younger brother, Ferguson, walked by by singing Suicide Blonde (he was supposed to have bought a tape to learn Swahili, but apparently bought X instead), he got caught by Clarissa and she played the tape in the stereo as proof. I was shocked (in a good way) when I heard it, so I just thought I'd mention it. Dawn From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: [Inxs] For So. Cal listers Tuesday morning KLOS-FM will feature INXS in the studio, which I took to mean Andrew and Kirk although the dj said INXS. They will be guests of Mark and Brian. I remember getting up early in the morning to go to KLOS last time they were in studio with Michael (actually, now that I think of it, it was Michael, Andrew and Kirk. I know Jon and Tim were not there - probably not Garry either. We were robbed! But it was still a lot of fun.) From: "Cat Inxsive" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: [Inxs] AIDS Benefit Forgive me if this was mentioned on the list before (I may have experienced a brain cloud) But did anyone know about a concert that INXS put on for an AIDS benefit in Europe this weekend? Elton John, among others, were there. I only caught a glimpse of the news piece. Can anyone tell me about it? Thanks! Cat From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shake the Tree Hi Pedro, I too love the Elegantly Wasted CD. I love, searching, everything and she is rising. I think that she is rising is one of my favs from that CD. I also love elegantly wasted. Just a real appropriate song! Yeah! Linda From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] INXS on Clarissa From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: [Inxs] Re: INXS on Clarissa on 6/17/01 7:01 PM, Dawn aka Angel at inxs_angel@hotmail.com wrote: > On Nickolodeon they were showing an old episode (from 1991) of Clarissa > Explains It All, and the younger brother, Ferguson, walked by by singing > Suicide Blonde (he was supposed to have bought a tape to learn Swahili, but > apparently bought X instead), he got caught by Clarissa and she played the > tape in the stereo as proof. I was shocked (in a good way) when I heard it, > so I just thought I'd mention it. Hi guys, Is Ferguson a red headed kid? I've never seen the show (too old I guess, lol), but I must ask because if he is, that's one of my husband's younger cousins. How bizarre is that? I didn't realize he was even on the show until it had gone off the air (we're not close to this branch of the family, obviously), but I've been curious ever since. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Shake the Tree agree with Pedro here, EW took some time to work it's magic on me. I liked the faster tracks straight off and taped the album for playing in my car, (where most of my music listening is done) but songs like Searchin and everything did nothing for me. Then I heard the Leadstation mix of Searchin and it made me look at the song again and I taped the whole album again in a different running order and boom the album shot straight to the top 3 of my fav INXS albums with the tracks Searchin and Everything among my favs on it. This same issue raised it's head for Michael's solo album but with a bit of rejigging of the running order I managed to fall in love with all but 2 or 3 of the songs on it and the album felt stronger for the change in running order and no filler tracks. Jim From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Please post this to the INXS yeah, I've heard this a couple of weeks back, I thought it was just an INXS sample of Never Tear Us Apart on a dance track, and I can't remember when I heard it. From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: [Inxs] Deepest Red ..............that's the color of my cheeks right now!!!!!! LOL!!! What planet was I on yesterday?!!?!?! Sorry to have confused you all - indeed Deepest Red & Red Hill are entirely different songs!!!! Let me just slip back into my corner here....... -Chris ne4inxs@aol.com From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] For So. Cal listers THANK YOU! I knew they were coming in, I wasnt sure when. Tomorow they are coming? I'm going to my Great grandma's funeral tomorow, she passed away on friday. Shine Like it Does, ~Jennifer "Love is like a rocket"~Ross Childress From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [[Inxs] New INXS Remix] fraser.ingram" wrote: > I heard about this track on the new Ministry of Sound album Clubbers > Guide to... Ibiza. There is a remix of an inxs track (not sure which > one as I haven't got my copy yet) - it's on the track listing as "Tall > Paul vs INXS - Precious Heart" By guess would be "Never Tear Us Apart". lyric: Don't have to tell you I love your PRECIOUS HEART. Davy Tired of looking at everyone's lame personal homepages which contain nothing that YOU care about? Well, I dont care, come see mine anyway. http://www.nightswimming.com From: "Karen Thomson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: [Inxs] Toronto appearance Hi all... Just thought I'd warn the other Toronto-area fans about these appearances by Kirk & Andrew... -------- Thursday 21st June - Canada AM (8.50am & 9.50am) performance and interview on Canadian TV morning news show. Thursday 21st June - 3.00pm. Live performance & interview on Mix 99.9 radio in Toronto. Thursday 21st June - 7.00pm. Edge 102 Live In Toronto on-air performance and interview. -------- They are also doing their acoustic invite-only show at 8pm...which is also being webcast!! More info on the webcast would be at: http://www.virtuecast.com/now/ Tune in wherever you are!!! :) Who knows, maybe I'll be spotted there since I have found my invite for it! Woohoo! :) Now to get myself out of work that night........... :) ===Karen T.=== From: "Cat Inxsive" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Toronto appearance I am a writer for Canada AM...so guess who I will get to see and talk to up close and personal!!!!!! I am sooooooo excited!!!! Cat >From: Karen Thomson >Reply-To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >Subject: [Inxs] Toronto appearance >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:48:52 -0400 > >Hi all... > Just thought I'd warn the other Toronto-area fans about these >appearances by Kirk & Andrew... >-------- >Thursday 21st June - Canada AM (8.50am & 9.50am) performance and interview >on Canadian TV morning news show. >Thursday 21st June - 3.00pm. Live performance & interview on Mix 99.9 radio >in Toronto. >Thursday 21st June - 7.00pm. Edge 102 Live In Toronto on-air performance >and interview. >-------- >They are also doing their acoustic invite-only show at 8pm...which is also >being webcast!! >More info on the webcast would be at: >http://www.virtuecast.com/now/ >Tune in wherever you are!!! :) Who knows, maybe I'll be spotted there >since I have found my invite for it! Woohoo! :) Now to get myself out of >work that night........... :) > >===Karen T.=== From: "meghann r matwichuk" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:47 PM Subject: [Inxs] last minute reminder -- Andrew on PI hello all, i know this is late but maybe a handful of you might benefit from this post, so... 'rock star andrew farris' (yes, that's how the tv guide channel put it -- cheers to the most un-rockstarish rockstar i can think of!!) is going to be on politically incorrect tonight, tuesday, at 12:05 central time. i remember this being mentioned some time ago, but i for one had completely forgotten about it until my boyfriend called me 5 minutes ago to let me know he remembered for me (i've trained him well -- abby, you would be proud!). i'm not even sure of the channel, but anyone who happens to check their email in the next hour-and-a-half, happy surfing! best, meghann From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: [Inxs] ANDREW ON POLITICALLY INCORRECT TONIGHT The tv schedule shows Andrew on Politically Incorrect tonight. Patricia From: LuvNPce99@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Inxs] ANDREW ON POLITICALLY INCORRECT TONIGHT Actually it was on last night. Technically June 20th started at 12 midnight last night. Sorry if anyone missed it. Luv N Pce - roro From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: "inxslist" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: [Inxs] Andrew on PI So, can someone who did see it please post a report? Oh how I hate the whole after midnight TV thing - I was expecting him to be on *tonight* (technically 21 June). Argh! Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono From: "Brian Rice" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Inxs] Andrew on PI Andrew really didn't say much throughout the show; very quiet for the most part. The other three guests-a comedian, a Republican strategist, and Lisa Givens, pretty much dominated the discussions. Andrew's most lengthy comments were while they were discussing the movie Pearl Harbor, and Bill Mayer was saying how ridiculous it was that they had NOBODY smoking in 1941, and how they did not portray racism at all in the movie. Andrew pointed out that movies-and art, in general-reflect the current values and standards in society, so for the movie to not have smoking or racism in it wasn't such a terrible thing. From: "eric reed" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Andrew on PI I saw it. he only said a couple things. let's see, something about internet porn and shopping for naked women :) nothing really important. obviously, andrew just prefers to listen. the funny thing is, he was smiling and laughing the whole time, and he just kept looking up at the ceiling. maybe he was a bit shy, eh? the host (bill maher) is a big INXS fan. when michael was on back in 97, bill really hyped him up as a legend. with andrew on, he mentioned a little about the anthology and how awesome it was. I think that is cool. for the ladies, andrew looked pretty good. he had a red buttoned shirt, tan khakis, and sneakers. really casual. he ages quite well, and he's really not changed much at all throughout INXS' career. eric From: ShrLynXs@aol.com To: Inxs@nightswimming.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] Andrew on PI Eric writes: obviously, andrew just prefers to listen... and he just kept looking up at the ceiling. maybe he was a bit shy, eh? Andrew was pretty much how I expected to see him on a show like PI...I think of Andrew as an intense "thinker" more than a talker, and it seemed to me the "looking up" was him being in thought. If you've ever had the pleasure of meeting him and being around him for a few hours...or even when hes seen in interviews...thats what you often see him doing during conversation...seems he takes the time to seriously contemplate whats being said and his replies. But I think he can also give it a good go when it comes to expressing himself with words...either way it must be his brilliant mind at work! Lynda back to lurking... From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] ANDREW ON POLITICALLY INCORRECT TONIGHT In a message dated 6/20/01 10:08:12 AM, LuvNPce99@aol.com writes: << Actually it was on last night. Technically June 20th started at 12 midnight last night. Sorry if anyone missed it. >> In the Memphis area it came on at 1:05 am due to the WB time slot that showed "Pretty in Pink". Unfortunately I managed to sleep through half the PI show--but the last part I saw. I agree Andrew seemed to be in "deep thought" about whatever the discussion was. Jewels From: "Erica Nicole" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Inxs] ANDREW ON POLITICALLY INCORRECT TONIGHT do you mean tonight as on the 20th? or tonight as in early this morning? >From: PatGraham3@aol.com >Reply-To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >To: Inxs@nightswimming.com >Subject: [Inxs] ANDREW ON POLITICALLY INCORRECT TONIGHT >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:58:48 EDT > >The tv schedule shows Andrew on Politically Incorrect tonight. > >Patricia From: "Sebastian de Sousa" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:31 AM Subject: [Inxs] Garry Gary Beers Hi everybody: If I do remember well today, June 22th, is Garry´s Birthday, Am I right ?? If so, Happy Birthday Garry !!!! Greetings, INXSebas...