X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 08:57:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:20:19 -0700 From: Winnie4 To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah!/FMDH > Be interesting to see what people prefer, Early > stuff or Later stuff???? > > Sarah I have a really hard time choosing on this one, in my Cd player right now (in my house) I have WTWYA and Underneath the Colors. In my car Cd player, I have their Greatest Hits and Elegantly Wasted. I guess I tend towards their later stuff though, I finally pried FMDH out of my car after four months straight of listening to it, now I can't seem to get enough of EW. The only album of theirs that I really, really have a hard time getting into is "INXS", although I do have it and listen to it occasionally. Everything else I absolutely adore!! I too have to agree with everyone who said that FMDH had to "grow on them". I wasn't exactly wild about it the first few times I listened to it either. But now I absolutely LOVE it!! (although I do what many of you may consider the unthinkable & fast forward past Please, You Got That & the title track - I can only take so much of those two for some reason - I wouldn't necessarily say that I "dislike" them, just don't like to listen to them over & over like the rest of the album) I love INXS I love INXS I love INXS Just had to throw that in. I just LOVE THEM!!! The more I listen (and hardly a day goes by that I don't), the more I love their stuff & realize how fantastically talented they are!! How many bands can keep you hooked like that? Like you just can't get enough? Always wanting more? mmmmmmmmm, INXS, love 'em. Well, enough of my ranting, INXS forever!! Winnie :-) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 08:58:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:56:51 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS/TTD on tv G'day Matthew >For everyone in Australia...'Rage' will play the 4 songs from Stadium >Australia from 12.20am tomorrow night (Friday night/Saturday morning >whatever you want ta call it). Thanks a lot buddy, specially for put'n in that Fri/Sat bit. That made it a touch easier ta work out >whatever you want to call it) bit. I'd probably settle with somethin' like, 'the morn'n after tomorrow morn'n'......maybe. DON'TCHANGEthechanel AngusTed > >Matthew. > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 09:00:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:39:48 GMT From: Danielle Nicolas To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: regretful temporary unsubbing for holiday period :( Hi everyone, I am sad to announce that due to the sporadic and frivoluos nature of my holidays I will be unable to remain subscribed to this list for the next four weeks. So Cya for now and hope to speak to you all real soon when I get beack home (and hopefully get my own computer) Please note that I can still access my email - just can;t attend to huge volumes of it - and hence would love to still hear from all those who I have been speaking to privately! they know who they are! And anyone who feels like saying hi! On Location, danielle X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 09:26:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 06:21:33 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah!/FMDH On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:20:19 -0700, Winnie4 wrote: > I too have to agree with everyone who said that > FMDH had to "grow on them". I really didn't have to grow to like FMDH...when i got it...i couldn't put it down!! I fell in love with all the songs espically the Messenger, The Gift, Please you got that, Time(i daze when i hear Kirks guitar rif in that song!!) I still can't put it down and i really can't put down the others i have!! Wishes everyone a goodmorning, Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 09:31:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 23:34:05 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Elegantly Wasted Hmm yet again I have to be champion for another INXS song taken to the cleaners...(sighs reflectively).....SHOW ME IS BRILLIANT!!!! :) I know there is more then a few of you out there who think the opposite....oh well you're entitled :) but here's my opinion!!!! There's no other song like this on any album in any country by any artist on the planet........they are listening to this on Mars!!! It's one of the best intros INXS have done on a song since Burn 4 U. The atmosphere is so remorseful in this song and Mikes voice just tears apart those personal lyrics like he just had a swig of Bourbon and topped it off with a steak burger. And the guitar solo in the middle that is so fine and apparently in one take to.......so sweet and melodic even if a little melancholy. I think most people's main gripe with this song is that second chorus......the almost endless....."oh Cherry oh Cherry baby" umpteen times......I guess that would be fair considering you hear the song like 3 or 4 times and you are thinking......"Well Jesus Mike have a Cherry Ripe and get over it". I mean we didn't know this girl personally, to Mike she obviously meant something more. If you're bored of it substitute these lyrics or something else similar: and sing it to yourself with Mike it helps with this song :). Not thats theres anything wrong with Mikes lyrics they are brilliant. (Oh Cherry baby) So try to break me C'mon girl ha ha You cannot break me You scare me baby Not very baby You scare me baby etc.... Michael Kick Talon X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 09:44:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:33:35 +0100 From: Graham Newbery To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah!/FMDH Any of you guys got the "Empty Sun Under Clean Minds" bootleg? At least that's what I think it is called! It was recorded live in a airport hangar (San Francisco?) around the time of the Get Out of the House tour. I don't generally support/but bootlegs, but this was bought for me. Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: Winnie4 [SMTP:winnie4@pacbell.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 8:20 AM > To: Multiple recipients of > Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah!/FMDH > > > Be interesting to see what people prefer, Early > > stuff or Later stuff???? > > > > Sarah > > I have a really hard time choosing on this one, > in my Cd player right now (in my house) I have > WTWYA and Underneath the Colors. In my car Cd > player, I have their Greatest Hits and Elegantly > Wasted. I guess I tend towards their later stuff > though, I finally pried FMDH out of my car after > four months straight of listening to it, now I > can't seem to get enough of EW. The only album of > theirs that I really, really have a hard time > getting into is "INXS", although I do have it and > listen to it occasionally. Everything else I > absolutely adore!! > > I too have to agree with everyone who said that > FMDH had to "grow on them". I wasn't exactly wild > about it the first few times I listened to it either. > But now I absolutely LOVE it!! (although I do what > many of you may consider the unthinkable & fast > forward past Please, You Got That & the title track - > I can only take so much of those two for some reason - > I wouldn't necessarily say that I "dislike" them, > just don't like to listen to them over & over like the > rest of the album) > > I love INXS > I love INXS > I love INXS > > Just had to throw that in. I just LOVE THEM!!! The more > I listen (and hardly a day goes by that I don't), the > more I love their stuff & realize how fantastically > talented they are!! How many bands can keep you hooked > like that? Like you just can't get enough? Always wanting > more? mmmmmmmmm, INXS, love 'em. > > Well, enough of my ranting, > INXS forever!! > Winnie :-) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 10:17:39 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:11:45 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! Hi. Lisa here. I don't know if I can do the early stuff vs. later stuff. I can just pick out my fave lps: This is in no particular order: Listen Like Thieves Shabooh Shoobah Full Moon Dirty Hearts This isn't to say I didn't like the others. Underneath the Colors was a pretty mature departure from their self-titled debut. I have to admit that the first time I listened to their first LP, I had to keep from laughing. Damn, they sounded so....YOUNG! >From: Courtney Chase >Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com >To: Multiple recipients of >Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:45:22 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--- Sarah Perrochaud > > Be interesting to see what people prefer, Early > > stuff or Later stuff???? > > > > >I'd go for middle... LLT being my favorite album. > >IMHO, Elegantly Wasted would go at the very bottom... I have tried >repeatedly to like that album and I just can't... of course it took 3 >years for me to get to like FMDH -- so ask me again in a year or so >LOL. But to answer the question... Early stuff, but closer to the >middle LOL > >Courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 10:19:56 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:15:05 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! Leah makes a pretty good point about the "politcal incorrectness" of the title "Elegantly Wasted". But, that's only because everyone---even in the music industry---is getting so damned health conscious. We've just been scared into thinking we're gonna die soon if we don't eat this or stay away from that. As far as being fit is concerned, in the LBL video, had anyone noticed that, after Kirk took his jacket off, there was definite definition in his upper arms? Just curious if anyone noticed. Also, regarding "Saturday Night Live" on Comedy Central yesterday----did anyone notice Garry at all? WERE THOSE TATOOS ON HIS ARMS? Very curious!!! Lisa >From: liberty-outpost@juno.com >Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com >To: Multiple recipients of >Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:11:18 -0400 > >On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:19:06 +0100 "Sarah Perrochaud" > writes: Elegantly Wasted, to me is just >the "tops!". That's why I > > CANNOT > > understand why it had such crap reviews around the world. > >Hi all, > >I think it was Mike Gee who pointed out that the title cut, Elegantly >Wasted, was considered highly politically incorrect and that turned >everybody in the music industry who is into political correctness (which >is just about all of them) completely off to the album. It does make >sense. Think about that the next time you decide to be politically >correct. > >Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 10:34:15 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:30:20 EDT From: PWoods0913@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah!/FMDH Hi all, I have the "Empty Sun Under Clean Mind" cd bootleg. It's just awesome. I've been listening to it for 3 days straight now. Can't get enough of it. I've got lots of other "bootlegs" and they are all great!!!!!!! Tricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 11:27:16 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:01:51 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Full Moon Dirty Hearts Well I can just cut and paste something I wrote on here a year + ago for this thread. For any of you who remember it vividly read no further: MY LIKES ABOUT FMDH Days of Rust my absolute favourite song up until EW, this is one of those songs that just keeps punching relentlessly, it doesn't stop hitting until way after the last bar finishes. With that jet-rocket, jawbreaker start, this is INXS at their borderline-heavy metal, energetic best. I read somewhere on the list that someone found the lyrics less than satisfactory, I think the opposite, I think this is one of Michael's best efforts... Although the language is derogatory, it is thouroughly appropriate for the mode of music and the message that he is trying to convey. He establishes a metaphor representing the relationship between INXS (himself) and the media and for convenience he puts it in sexual terms - 'Dirty money washed rich, suck me honey it's a cinch'. This metaphor remains consistent throughout the whole song. He describes further the sordid relationship that exists between INXS and the media, where both sides are in it for the good of the one rather than the both, a relationship born out of mutually exclusive self interests. Sleazy if you like. - 'Use your delusions to get ahead, I'm not faking a single breath'. Then in the chorus we get the chant 'Say these days are made of rust, counted out, counted out and lost well I got plans to prove them (you) wrong. The media wants out of the relationship they've found another #### and they're real pleased telling everybody about how INXS was just a passing fad for them, a one night stand as it were. But INXS aren't finished yet, no siry. Now we return to that first sexual metaphor and the sarcastic lines.- 'Got manners like a comedy, Don't you push to hard baby it's a thin veneer yeah". The last phrase being literally quite lucid and on the verge of 'x-rated', if not for the subtlety. Then bang another chorus followed by that long tense solo. Finally we hit the third and fourth verses with INXS in an up-tempo mood. Where he mentions the new (recording) deal. The media wishes INXS would go away but Michael and INXS have a different idea in mind. Hail the conviction of it! The Gift, this song live is fantastic and on a decent hifi system it can really blow you away. Industrial? If that's what industry sounds like I'll have a piece of that every day. Make your Peace, a cool song where Michaels really trying something different with his voice which he's basically been trying to do ever since Kick. What a bass line! Time, Michael yet again getting stuck into the media and the energy in this song just doesn't stop with two awesome crescendos built around a great guitar solo. With that cool voice over on Michael's voice it still retains a live feeling. I'm Only Looking, funk with a twist, this is the 'cleanest' song on the album and it just breathes ever so serenely. Please You Got That, this is just a feast of INXS's traditional talent and with Ray Charles thrown in it rocks. Andrew described the lyrics as 'killer' and he's right, Michael really launches himself with this track. Full Moon, dirty guitar, sensual key board. And her voice against/with Michael's! The first time I heard this I was entranced, almost hypnotised by the surrender in the song. Freedom, talk about a build up those, strange textures and keyboard come ins, with short but beautiful lyrics. The harmony-perfect overdubs in the chorus and the power of the drum patterns. Kill the Pain, not many INXS songs can claim to bring a tear to the eye, the video to this song certainly did to me, boy was I shocked, i didn't think an INXS song could ever sound like this. Cut your Roses Down, I'm amazed by this song, such a simple delivery of funk/bass/voice projection, oh oh oh oh and that haunting chorus ooh ohoh! I don't understand why they didn't put the full version on the album. The Messenger, this song is weird, it's like a square dance stomp about, great fun with a simple melody that sounds like it's out of the big band era. Big dumb noise for one and all. Viking Juice, with this song on the album you have to wonder if this album shouldn't be considered INXS's most adventurous album to date. Poetry to a simple rock rif, I love when that keyboard comes in on the final verse (?). I'm not sure what Michael is saying lyrically here but one cannot deny his 'finishing line' on the album - 'It's called the end of rock n' roll'. One weak point about Full Moon....it's pretty raw in some places particularly evident on the Gift if you havent got a decent hi fi with excellent bass output it aint gonna do it justice. One of the less cleaner INXS albums as far as noise production.....(LIVE BABY LIVE IS CLEANER!!!!!) Michael Kick Talon Vamp it up, pull the trigger up and down, fastest way to the other side of town X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 11:58:55 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:12:16 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Elegantly Wasted On the subject of EW, I would have to agree that some of the play list that was included puzzled me. Why a song like Shine didn't make any version but the Japanese one astounds me. How could it miss as a hit--it's a rocker, and the combination of Michael's and Kirk's vocals in it are awesome. I certainly would have dropped either Show Me or Girl on Fire (neither of which I particularly care for) for that one. And more attention should have been paid to She Is Rising, which I feel is one of the BEST the band ever did. I have to say though, I loved this album from the first listen. In fact, it LIVED in my car cassette deck for a year (until I wore it out and had to buy a new one). Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 12:30:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:24:08 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Elegantly Wasted Well, (it's Lisa, again) EW is not that bad an LP; I was pleasantly surprised when I heard it for the first time. My fave song? "Shake the Tree". Another one I like is "Building Bridges" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 13:11:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: SNL PERFORMANCE Actually.... Lisa.... I had a very hard time looking at anything else but Michael in that black see thru body shirt and the ... ahem ... black leather pants & boots. Back to the actual performance... I thought that was one of the very best SNL musical performances I have ever seen. The acoustics in that studio are not good for the most part. But "Bitter Tears" was awesome, IMHO!!! But I will have to check on my tape to see if Garry has TATS!!! :-) Patricia --- Lisa Navarro wrote: > Also, regarding "Saturday Night Live" on Comedy Central > yesterday----did anyone notice Garry at all? WERE THOSE TATOOS ON HIS ARMS? > > Very curious!!! Lisa > === * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * MICHAEL KELLAND FRANK HUTCHENCE "Good night, sweet prince, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" ~~~ Hamlet X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 13:20:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 1 Jul 99 10:08:17 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Elegantly Wasted] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id NAA94217 "Church, Amanda" wrote: > On the subject of EW, I would have to agree that some of the play list > that was included puzzled me. Why a song like Shine didn't make any > version but the Japanese one astounds me. Actually, this was the other way around. Shine was on every version of EW except for the US. Let it Ride was the track that was Japanese only but could be obtained via the Everything single in the UK. > How could it miss as a hit--it's a rocker, and the combination of > Michael's and Kirk's vocals in it are awesome. I certainly would have > dropped either Show Me or Girl on Fire (neither of which I particularly > care for) for that one. I have to agree with most this. I'm really not much of a fan of EW but I thought that the $15 that I paid for the UK version of the album which I bought ONLY to get Shine was well worth the money. At least half the songs I would have dropped in favor of this one. Let it Ride, on the other hand, I don't really care for and I'm glad didn't make the cut. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 13:21:18 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:58:57 +1000 From: "GM" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [[Full Moon Dirty Hearts]] The thing about music, and INXS's music in particular, is that popularity does not breed greatness, nor does obscurity. If one person gains enjoyment from music then it's done the job. I think INXS provided and continues to provide that enjoyment. FMDH was a difficult album on the basis for the band in light of INXS losing their popularity from prior records. For me the less popular INXS became the better the music seemed. It became somehow more personal and less "commercial". I think the boy's tried too hard on that record. In terms of popularity, I can't see people singing "Oh Baby One More Time" in 20 years from now. I do however, see people letting out a seductive whisper "Come over here". Regards Goran. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 13:49:29 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:44:51 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! s"*$f political correctness, there's no such thing, how is it anybody whoever did anything political was ever correct when it's gotten us where we are today!! :) USA wait for your GST your next!! LOL Okay seriously, Anyways, I don't really understand what all the problems are with the title or concept Elegantly Wasted.....I mean Michael was just answering those crits and repulsive slime in the press who figured he was on drugs.....just letting em know that they were giving him every reason to get wasted.....this info they enjoyed. The real problem the press had with it was that INXS were still putting out records after they had wrote them off........that was a real slap in the face for some of the media who are so jealous of the artists they write about. They like to think that all rock stars are washed up after a certain time period and they revel in contributing to it.....in sales terms I guess some of the rock stars are washed up after a short period but the media is very jaded in judging performers by their last albums gross revenue. The phrase was actually borrowed from Keith Richards wasnt it? Describing the situation of being absolutely off the planet on a drug binge.......Unfortunately the only image it conjures up now is Michael hanging from a door with his last thought being "you're right". I guess it's not politically correct when he says it like that. Michael Kick Talon Gimme the world and I will throw it against the wall All of these problems I can't take care of them all. > >>>>>>>>>> > I think it was Mike Gee who pointed out that the title cut, Elegantly > Wasted, was considered highly politically incorrect and that turned > everybody in the music industry who is into political correctness (which > is just about all of them) completely off to the album. It does make > sense. Think about that the next time you decide to be politically > correct. > > Leah > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 13:55:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:41:23 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Full Moon Dirty Hearts <> Surrender--yeah, that's EXACTLY the word. Can't you just close your eyes and FEEL it? I mean, if you surrender to this song, I feel you're THERE (in Michael's soul) more than in any other song they ever did, with the exception of maybe Not Enough Time (which I feel oozes with soul, in both the lyrics and that breathy delivery--"and all the nights, I want to be inside you." Nothing subtle about that.) What a contrast between these two albums--WTWYA and FMDH. One is probably their most creative, highly-polished work, and the other is just plain RAW. And by raw I don't mean simple, because FMDH is very complex, maybe deeper than anything they ever did. It pulls no punches, cutting right to the bone on every track. More than any other album, this one felt like FAMILY--with all the inherent joys and differences. Every track meshed tightly, and at the same time, had an underlayer of tension to it, the sort of love/hate thing you would get in any long-term relationship like theirs. (Makes you wonder how some of the other albums might have sounded had they holed up alone together for six months while working on them.) You can't be a bystander while listening to this album. You don't throw it on to relax or just have some background music. Even if you hate it, it evokes EMOTION in you. But if you still aren't convinced of the merits of this album, my suggestion is to crank up the stereo, lay back, close your eyes, and surrender yourself. You may never come back! Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 14:00:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:48:13 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Elegantly Wasted] <> Don't you agree that had Shine been released in the US as a single, it would have charted at least in the top ten? I think it's even better than EW itself, and in fact, I would list it in my top ten INXS tunes. Amanda -----Original Message----- From: David Jones [mailto:dav3yq@usa.net] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 1:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Elegantly Wasted] "Church, Amanda" wrote: > On the subject of EW, I would have to agree that some of the play list > that was included puzzled me. Why a song like Shine didn't make any > version but the Japanese one astounds me. Actually, this was the other way around. Shine was on every version of EW except for the US. Let it Ride was the track that was Japanese only but could be obtained via the Everything single in the UK. > How could it miss as a hit--it's a rocker, and the combination of > Michael's and Kirk's vocals in it are awesome. I certainly would have > dropped either Show Me or Girl on Fire (neither of which I particularly > care for) for that one. I have to agree with most this. I'm really not much of a fan of EW but I thought that the $15 that I paid for the UK version of the album which I bought ONLY to get Shine was well worth the money. At least half the songs I would have dropped in favor of this one. Let it Ride, on the other hand, I don't really care for and I'm glad didn't make the cut. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 15:28:03 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:18:04 GMT From: doug cruz To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS!!yeah! i prefer the later inxs stuff. X is, and has always been my fav. album. whenever a new album came out, i'd talk it up, but then i'd always come back to X. most of my guy friends like elegantly wasted, where as most of my girl friends like WTWYA the best. lately i haven't been listening to inxs. a lot of my other fav. groups came out w/ new albums lately, so i've been buying a crap load of new music...robbie williams, collective soul, tlc, roxette (had to get the new one on ebay b/c it's not available in america):(, backstreet boys...JUST KIDDING!!! LOL :) although, i have to say, their new single is pretty catchy. :) doug > >--- Sarah Perrochaud wrote: > > Be interesting to see what people prefer, Early > > stuff or Later stuff???? > > > > Sarah > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 16:22:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 13:14:17 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Their older stuff I myself prefer their older stuff...i really love Listen Live Thieves and X...and i think soon i am gonna wear out my Listen Live Thieves and KICK tape....lol i listen to them everytime i am on the computer. I actually love all my INXS cds. I aparently love INXS so much i can't put them down...i find myself listening to my cd's of INXS late into the night and there were some nights when i was not tired and very daft that i ended up sticking my face in the pillow cause i couldn't stop singing the Mediate and Mystify song...i was still singing those songs even with my face in a pillow but the Mediate song sounded mumbled!!! Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 18:14:31 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:08:50 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Full Moon Dirty Hearts Hi everyone. Regarding the aforementioned album, I must confess to imagining these guys being filmed in 8mm black and white, very grainy film while performing "The Gift". All that fuzzy distortion. I don't know about anyone else, but, I love it! And, I must admit to have had a pretty crappy day today. You guys on the list cheered me up immeasurably!!! Thank you!! Love, L. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 18:23:53 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:10:10 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Full Moon Dirty Hearts WOW! I agree with you about "Kill the Pain". It is VERY EVOCATIVE. Lisa X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 18:30:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:19:48 -0000 From: "JERRY CATHY" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS Hello, Hedi your hooked...Isn't it wonderful to have such a sound in your head it's almost hypnotic.... One of my old favs is Shabooh Shoobah....The One Thing....Its great to listen to while your on the computer...Drop it in and give it a listen....(Again)...Hey by the way who told me about ebay?????? Well I have found alot of stuff I have been looking for (Hundred Dollars Later)...Thanks Iam waiting on my videos and books and cd's...It makes it all come alive again...I love everthing INXS has ever done good or bad...It just changes from day to day which cd I listen to..... Cathy xs5 X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 18:50:03 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 15:44:56 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:19:48 -0000, JERRY CATHY wrote: > One of my old favs is Shabooh Shoobah....The One Thing....Its great to > listen to while your on the > computer...Drop it in and give it a listen I love Shabooh Shoobah...the song on that cd are really great...i love the songs...Spy of Love, To Look At You....actually i love every song on Shabooh Shoobah. I'll have to get some blank tapes and put all the INXS cds i have on tape!! I have KICK on Tape,CD and Record and i have Listen Like Thieves on tape and CD and i also have the Sucide Blonde record that has....Suicide Blonde (7" mix), Suicide Blonde (Earth Mix), Sucide Blonde (devastation Mix), and its got the song that is not on LP...its called "Everybody wants U Tonight." Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 1 19:21:51 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 08:56:26 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS/TTD on tv Remember That USA takes NTSC format & parts of europe & Australia are PAL> IF u are from the USA u will have to convert! HYBRID1616@aol.com wrote: > > Would any Australians be willing to tape this for us US and UK members? > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 08:47:02 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:04:19 PDT From: Gail Warren To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS/TTD on tv Thanks Matthew, I'll be sure to put a tape in the video and record it. Gail >From: Matthew Marsland >Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com >To: Multiple recipients of >Subject: INXS: INXS/TTD on tv >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:40:11 +1100 > > >For everyone in Australia...'Rage' will play the 4 songs from Stadium >Australia from 12.20am tomorrow night (Friday night/Saturday morning >whatever you want to call it). So don't watch Wimbledon tomorrow night >watch INXS instead! > >Matthew. > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 11:23:32 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 20:39:32 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Rage (sixth song in) Anyone out there who is taping INXS tonight they are not first on (they are sixth) see list below. It's strange seeing the word independent next to their name! Also on Rage (if anyone can't sleep) at 4.30am there is a song called 'What You Need' by Powerhouse...does anyone know if this is a cover version? Anyway you might want to check that out just incase it is. 12:20am She's In Fashion - Suede Sony All Is Full Of Love - Bjork Universal (MCA) Cars - Fear Factory Roadrunner Let's Make A Deal - Dangerman Sony Echo - Kristin Hersh Shock NewSensation/Kick/NeverTearUsApart/WhatYouNeed - INXS with Terence Trent D'Arby Independent Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 12:35:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:32:44 EDT From: LBlack9972@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Having a laugh at "Australian Made" Does anyone ever have a giggle at the start of "Australian Made"(INXS,Divynals etc) when the fan`s are making human pyramid`s and someone falls from the top and also someone falls from out of view it maybe from a higher tier .....lol ive just been to "Davy`s Inxs MP3 site " but cant download any it wont save any to a file ????????????? help me `cos there are a few Remixes i wanna hear :( X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 14:10:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 2 Jul 99 11:05:44 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: No more mp3 :-( X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id OAA43304 LBlack9972@aol.com wrote: > ive just been to "Davy`s Inxs MP3 site " but cant download any it wont > save any to a file ????????????? help me `cos there are a few Remixes i > wanna hear :( When you download it, if it doesn't save it usually puts a copy of it in your cache files. So look and see if its there because that's the only chance you've got of hearing them again. For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received notification from the band's management that they wanted the site removed. I'm not too suprised that I was asked to do so, but I was pretty amazed at how fast they found it. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 15:01:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 11:56:51 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( On 2 Jul 99 11:05:44 PDT, David Jones wrote: > LBlack9972@aol.com wrote: MP3's....go to this site....http://www.inxsweb.com/multimedia.html They have MP3's and they even have the Christmas Song that Kirk sings and its in RealPlayer but it says its a MP3. Heidi > > ive just been to "Davy`s Inxs MP3 site " but cant download any it wont = > > > save any to a file ????????????? help me `cos there are a few Remixes i= > = > > > wanna hear :( > > When you download it, if it doesn't save it usually puts a copy of it in = > your > cache files. So look and see if its there because that's the only chance= > > you've got of hearing them again. > > For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received > notification from the band's management that they wanted the site removed= > =2E = > > I'm not too suprised that I was asked to do so, but I was pretty amazed a= > t how > fast they found it. > > Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 15:05:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:02:28 +0100 From: "Marie-B. Glaize" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS/TTD on tv > Would any Australians be willing to tape this for us US and UK members? > What about the rest of the world? Has it the right to get a copy. No offense, just Calling all nations.... Marie-B X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 15:10:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:02:28 +0100 From: "Marie-B. Glaize" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: 20 years ahead > In terms of popularity, I can't see people singing "Oh Baby One More Time" > in 20 years from now. I do however, see people letting out a seductive > whisper "Come over here". > At that time, it'll be perfect time to say "21st century's yesterday" ;) Marie-B X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 15:27:32 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:32:31 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( Davy said: >For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received notification from the band's management that they wanted the site removed. Surprise, surprise. So you have to remove the MP3's of songs which are hard to find (rare) or even not available anymore, right? In my opinion, making those songs available on the net doesn't do the band/record label ANY harm. Great! (sarcasm) Did they mention why? Markus Pfeffer --- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 2 20:15:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 20:12:28 -0400 From: "DANIELA TROMBA" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: SNL PERFORMANCE Hi. I COMPLETELY forgot about INXS performing on SNL @ comedy central. I could just kick myself!! You didn't happen to tape it, did you?? If you did, would you be able to make a copy for me? I'd truly appreciate it. If there's any cost, please let me know, okay> thanks, daniela X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 11:50:08 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 15:30:29 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Sheet Music : ) Sheet Music-Getting back to waht we were talking about a few days ago regarding INXS sheet music-what was available etc-where can you get it from . Can someone give me a URL for a place which sells either new & Used 2nd hand music-? I'm looking for one especially in Australia perhaps Melbourne or Sydney or just anyone tthat you think is good & credible! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 11:53:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 08:44:02 PDT From: Donna B To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( That SUCKS Davy it's been a long time since I've thanked you for your time and dedication, all for the sake of us INXS fans... I can't imagine the band wanting to deprive the fans ....so I wonder if they know about it... BTW I hope they thanked you for helping to keep the band alive!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Davy Your the greatest!!!!!!!!!!! Curious Donna >Davy said: > >For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received >notification from the band's management that they wanted the site removed. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 13:02:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:16:40 -0400 From: Neil Kothari To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( David Jones wrote: > For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received > notification from the band's management that they wanted the site > removed. I'm not too suprised that I was asked to do so, but I was > pretty amazed at how fast they found it. What this really means is rather chilling when you stop to think about it (I hope all INXS fans *do* seriously think about this.) Is inxs.com so paranoid that they feel the need to control fan sites just to compete? Anyway, I guess this means we have a spy here on the List, eh Davy? Someone who forwarded your emails about the site to management -- there's no way they could have figured out otherwise. Pathetic really. -- nkoth@worldnet.att.net kotharne@umdnj.edu neil@inxsweb.com UMDNJ-NJMS 2000 -- http://www.umdnj.edu/~kotharne/ An Excess of INXS -- http://inxsweb.com/ Now Playing: Suede "Head Music" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 14:26:13 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Rawding To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( I'd like to join in the public praise of Davy for working like a mad dog to put all of those songs up for fans to listen to over the past few months. While I personally haven't had the means to download them and listen to them, I know how much it must mean for fans who don't have the resources or the finances to obtain some of these rare songs. It was fun while it lasted, and we appreciate the effort it must have taken. On a similar note, it's unfortunate how quickly management will react to take down a non-profit fan site and how slow they are in essentially every other aspect of the band. It's a crazy world we live in, isn't it. Jay X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 15:28:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 15:17:27 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( at 11:05 AM 7/2/99 PDT, David Jones said: >For those of you who havent visited the site yet today, I received >notification from the band's management that they wanted the site removed. >I'm not too suprised that I was asked to do so, but I was pretty amazed at how >fast they found it. I'm sitting here just shaking my head over this. Davy has provided a wonderful resourse for all the fans who would otherwise never get to hear these songs. I'm sorry Davy, but I'm more sorry for the fans. Oh wait, we got the new super duper improved official site coming soon, maybe they will put their heart and soul into the site the way you did with yours Davy . -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue In my cd player: Bettie Serveert - Dust Bunnies X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 15:46:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 3 Jul 99 12:41:17 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: No more mp3 :-( X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id PAA53478 "Markus Pfeffer" wrote: > Surprise, surprise. > So you have to remove the MP3's of songs which are hard to find (rare) > or even not available anymore, right? In my opinion, making those > songs available on the net doesn't do the band/record label ANY harm. Well, I have a lot of mixed feelings about it. I have been keeping up with the big battle in the courtrooms surrounding MP3s. Last year alone the recording industry lost an estimated 11 billion dollars because of people not buying albums they could download in MP3 format. I also own copyrights on a few things myself and I know that I'd be pretty pissed off if somebody tried to steal those works from me. On the other hand, as you have said, these are rare recordings, ALL out of print. Additionally, my interest in the band started because a fellow fan gave me a bunch of INXS recordings. Had it not been for her kind sharing with me I would not have spent all the money on the band that I have today (keeping in mind that I have bought almost every single since WTWYA new and not used, so the money I spent DID go back to the band). In turn, I've also received a mailing from a few fans that my website has rekindled their interest in collecting b-sides so what I was doing may have actualled helped more than harm. If I were posting album tracks, I can see where they would have a serious beef against me because that is a loss of revenue. But I have always been careful to post only songs that were out of print and thus not impact their profitability. In the end, its a tough fence for them to have to straddle on. Given the circumstances on the whole, I think they made a bad decision, but I understand why they made the decision they did. As much as I don't like it, I respect it, and even if I didn't there really isn't anything I can do about the situation as one individual. > Great! (sarcasm) Did they mention why? I wasn't going to post the letters they mailed me, but since you asked I will include them at the end of this post Neil Kothari wrote: > What this really means is rather chilling when you stop to think about > it (I hope all INXS fans *do* seriously think about this.) Is inxs.com > so paranoid that they feel the need to control fan sites just to > compete? I wondered about this myself. With the official website under construction now with nothing there but a recording of Gary's Mudhead project (which is an awesome sample BTW, for those of you who haven't heard it yet) I thought it was a bit curious that I should be shut down just as changes are about to be made on their side. > Anyway, I guess this means we have a spy here on the List, eh Davy? > Someone who forwarded your emails about the site to management -- > there's no way they could have figured out otherwise. Pathetic really. Well, what I find more curious is, why now all of a sudden? With the speed in which they caught on to me, obviously somebody connected to the band's management is lurking here. But why didn't they slam the Geocities site ages ago? Additionally, from the tone of the second letter I got from Dave Edwards I was under the impression that there were no compromises to be made. If they were upset over the volume of songs I was posting why didn't they just ask me to revert back to the old format? I can't help but think that something more is going on. Jay Rawding wrote: > I'd like to join in the public praise of Davy for working like a mad > dog to put all of those songs up for fans to listen to over the past > few months. While I personally haven't had the means to download them > and listen to them, I know how much it must mean for fans who don't > have the resources or the finances to obtain some of these rare songs. > It was fun while it lasted, and we appreciate the effort it must have > taken. Well, you (and other who have written to me) are most welcome. As I said above, I would not be a fan myself if it weren't for a fellow INXSary who shared their stuff with me. This project was just my way of returning the favor and, as you said, it was fun while it lasted. I do have plans to transcribe some interviews I have on tape and scan in pictures of album covers as well as other things I have floating around the house, so there is still more stuff yet to come. I tried to ask Dave Edwards if he would shut that down as well, but I have yet to hear back from him. So unless I hear otherwise from management there is still more stuff coming from me to look forward to. These are the two letters I received from Dave Edwards: Wed, 30 Jun 99 15:19PM PDT Dear David This email is sent on behalf of INXS and its management, a copy will be sent to the bands legal representative in New York and to all relevant record companies and publishers. The company that regularly searches the net and informs' me of sites that has MP3 files and other inxs material has brought your site my attention. This is to request that the site be taken down or email me with an alternative if you feel this request is too harsh. Look forward to hearing from you in the near future. David Edwards INXS Wed, 30 Jun 99 18:55PM Dear David Just read thru the following [referring to the "rules and regulations" posted on my server] and I would suggest this site or any others you have planned for the future in regards to INXS disappear very quickly. While I am into allowing some sites that although breach copyright do have a positive effect for the band, I don't think yours falls into that category. I will check again in the next 24 hours and would suggest it be gone before I take any further action with our legal people or your server. David Edwards INXS X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 3 16:51:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:48:48 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Something i wrote in GED night class I wrote this poem durning GED night class...lol the class was math that night!! I wrote it a few months ago. A Poem for Michael The Mountains are big, the mountains are small but Michael will never leave our hearts at all. The Ocean is long, the sea is deep, his voice is with us when we sleep. When we wake and start a brand new day, Michael is with us in every way. With every star that is in the sky, He is sitting on one with a watchful eye. He is probably smiling and singing along while we listen to our favorite INXS song. When we listen to Never Tear us Apart. We will never tear us apart from keeping Michael in our heart. He will be in our hearts till we're old and gray or until we meet him one day. Tell me what you think, Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 09:49:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:32:40 EDT From: SeppieUI@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Elegantly Wasted- Show me Cherry Baby Nanci, I couldn't agree more about Show me Cherry Baby, yet the more I listen to it the more I think it had potential to be a great song but they simply had a moment of non-creativity for the chorus...."show me show me cherry baby" over and over is pretty weak, however the rest of the song and the lyrics I now love. My 22 cents, eric in Houston X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 09:53:10 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:23:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( Davy, Reading those two messages from David Edwards.... I am personally upset about the tone used in them, especially the 2nd one. It really bothers me that the band's management would this tone and tact with someone who is not "competing" with them or anything remotely like that. WOW, I have no further words... It stuns me!!! And I think it is not a very nice "thank you" to one of the "superfans" out there who have helped keep interest alive and access to obscure tracks available. Patricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 09:53:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:01:32 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: MMM 6pm G'day INXSer's Couple of articles in the Sunday Telegraph 1. 'Radio ga-ga over D'Arby's INXS debut T rocks, doesn't he? Even the greatest MH groupies were surely moshing over their cornflakes when INXS cranked through an impromptu version of What You Need on the today show last month. The taste offered there became a feast for 90,000 fans as the lads - with TTD acting as lead vocalist - also reworked New Sensation, Kick & Never Tear Us Apart at the Socceroos-FIFA team game at the Stadium Australia two days later. Over very good friends at Tripple M, who have been playing little else for the last week, will be replaying the entire set on their Homegrown program at 6pm today. Your've been warned, people - time to get the bike shorts out of the bottom drawer...' pg190 2. There's a 2 pg(14-15) article on Tim. This is only parts out of the 2pgs. 'From singing in front of 100,000 people to playing 5th grade cricket for Manly. One rock star's new field of dreams ''I feel like i'm just starting out. I'm very enthusiastic & all the boys from the band are right behind me''. ''I'm looking forward to playing immensely''. ''And i'm taking it very seriously........'' ''I'm hoping to score as many runs as i can this yr & get a good batting average.''............. He has involved himself heavily in junior development in the Manly area coaching his 12yr old son Jake's team. ''I just put my hand up to help out & have studied the game in an effort to be a good coach,'' he said. ................................. Finally, does this mean the Australian cricket team will change their taste in music........."Í don't know about that - but i know many of them are fans,'' F said. ''Perhaps, one day the band will write a song about cricket that the boys will be able to sing.'' STAYYOUNG AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 09:55:08 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:13:04 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Something i wrote in GED night class G'day Heidi >A Poem for Michael The ryhme'ns alright makes it out of sight there's no waste yer, gives it TASTE!! AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 10:10:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 18:59:49 -0500 From: Sherry To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( First let me say that I admire Davy's reaction to this....respect in excess :) I just find this so sad. I personally feel that if management had paid this kind of attention to the band during the last number of years, INXS would have sold more albums. Where was the promotion then? When did they protect the band's interests? And while I'm on the subject....... When is the new album coming out? When will the new and improved inxs.com be up and running? If management doesn't want rare and unreleased material being made available to fans on the net... then why don't they do something reasonable and productive about it? Obviously, there is a market for this stuff, so sell it!!! And if it's too expensive to do a major release for fear it won't sell, then make it available on a limited basis. But I fear that the powers that be would much rather spend money on over-priced lawyers who have nothing better to do than tell Davy he's been a "bad boy". I'm sorry that I can't show the same level of maturity and respect that Davy is showing regarding this management move, but living in an area that considers Wal-Mart a good source (the only source) for c.d.'s and the like, Davy's site was a welcome respite from non-INXS friendly c.d. racks and I'm sorry to lose it. And I must ask the "spy" on the list this. How long do you expect people to wait? What would you like us, as fans, to do while we are waiting? I know the majority on this list are die-hards and we'll be here forever anyway, but..... there are some who will not, there are new "consumers" out there who may buy now and continue buying later because their interest is continually peaked by sites like Davy's, but not if they don't having something to keep them checking back for more. All we want is INXS! New, old, remixed, rare! Yes, I'll listen to What You Need another 20,000 times before I die, but I'd sure like to throw in the occasional live version or remix just to make life a little more interesting. And Davy, you said something about they lost 11 billion dollars? I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they came up with that figure and if they took other factors into consideration before releasing it. Yes, downloading a single from the net is replacing buying singles but the singles are overpriced to begin. And that point is moot regarding your site anyway because you can't take money out of anyone's pocket by giving away songs that aren't for sale anyway! Unfortunately though, it appears we are at the mercy of management regarding what we can and cannot listen to. Alas, it seems the only INXS music we are allowed to listen to is the limited amount that is for sale and that's it. Apparently, I should have never heard any of Dekadance because I don't own it and in this town, I'll never find it. I guess I wasn't supposed to hear Shine, We Are the Vegetables, Let it Ride or Merry Christmas. But I'm thrilled I did!! I think the majority of us on this list would be the first to report any site or anyone that was ripping off INXS. We simply wouldn't stand for them being taken advantage of like that. But sites like Davy's don't hurt, in fact they help to enhance the INXS listening experience which is why all of us are on this list to begin with. Sad... so sad... Sherrianne X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 10:39:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:28:08 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( >about it (I hope all INXS fans *do* seriously think about this.) >Is inxs.com so paranoid that they feel the need to control fan >sites just to compete? Was Davy contacted by INXS.com ? What is their aim? Remove everything about INXS on the net? Why? >Someone who forwarded your emails about the site to management -- >there's no way they could have figured out otherwise. I don't know what to comment on that. It's just terrible, and... well, anyone else was contacted yet? (to be honest, I seriously think about the site I run, who will be next to be asked to remove their sites??) Markus Pfeffer --------- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 12:21:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 4 Jul 99 09:17:53 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [No more mp3 :-(] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id MAA17724 Patricia wrote: > Davy, > > Reading those two messages from David Edwards.... I am > personally upset about the tone used in them, especially > the 2nd one. It really bothers me that the band's > management would this tone and tact with someone who is not > "competing" with them or anything remotely like that. Thank you for your kind note. I too was a bit dismayed at the tone of the second letter. I did reply back to Mr. Edwards in a very cordial manner in an attempt to get more information out of him. The fact that he doesn't want to reply to me just makes me that much more dismayed about the situation. I do have plans to move forward with a new INXS website, just not with MP3s, so I'll just have to sit back and see what happens. I appreciate your support :-) Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 12:52:10 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 4 Jul 99 09:48:56 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [No more mp3 :-(] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id MAA19663 Sherry wrote: > And Davy, you said something about they lost 11 billion dollars? I'd be > interested in knowing exactly how they came up with that figure and if > they took other factors into consideration before releasing it. Yes, > downloading a single from the net is replacing buying singles but the > singles are overpriced to begin. And that point is moot regarding your > site anyway because you can't take money out of anyone's pocket by > giving away songs that aren't for sale anyway! This I think is the critical point here. There were a couple of times when I was contacted by non INXS fans who wanted me to run off some album tracks for them. They mailed me a long list of MP3s that they had so I could "trade" with them. Obviously they wanted me provide them with some tunes they likes so they didn't have to go out and spend $10 on a CD. I didn't comply because the purpose of my site was not to aid bootlegging but rather to share and entertain fellow fans. The point though is that I do know that music business has taken a loss over this but I don't know how the $11 billion number was generated. As a mathematician, I know that any estimated data set can be sufficiently altered to make it look like what you want, but if their actual losses are even 1/10th of that figure you can see where they have a legitimate interest to protect. On the other hand, as we have said, I made a deliberate effort to publish only non-album tracks. The current vendetta against MP3 isn't aimed at people like me which is why I think that management has made a poor decision. Because of the greater issue involed with MP3 though, I understand why I have ended up turning into a peice of roadkill. I just wish that there were some alternatives available. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 13:56:42 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 17:57:33 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( I think that these Mp3 things are didgrcaeful especially if they are songs taht are available on CD ready to buy in the shops! I cannot access these things anyway because of my computers lack of capabilities. But just think, if you're an artist, no matter if you're as rich as INXS-you don't want your creativity & income stolen so you? Think of all the struggling atits out there-do they deserve a chance. I think MP3's are dishonest & I would never consider using them or listening to them as I think you owe it to God, the artist & society to be honest & truthful & do the RIGHT thing! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 14:16:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:16:19 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3s ronyag@camtech.net.au wrote: > I think that these Mp3 things are didgrcaeful especially if they are > songs taht are available on CD ready to buy in the shops! I cannot > access these things anyway because of my computers lack of > capabilities. But just think, if you're an artist, no matter if you're > as rich as INXS-you don't want your creativity & income stolen so you? > Think of all the struggling atits out there-do they deserve a chance. I > think MP3's are dishonest & I would never consider using them or > listening to them as I think you owe it to God, the artist & society to > be honest & truthful & do the RIGHT thing! I think you may be overlooking much of the good that has come from the MP3 format. I, too, am really upset, annoyed, pissed (take your pick) about the band's decision to shut down Davy's fabbo site, but just because his site was shut down we shouldn't assume all MP3s and their sites are "harmful" to every artist. (Not that Davy's site was harmful, just that the band--for some reason--seemed to think it was.) Many bands actually rely upon MP3s to get their music heard--if you go to one of the larger MP3 sites out there, MP3.com, you'll find literally thousands of MP3s put up there by unsigned bands, all hoping that some A&R person will hear them and then offer them a deal. Considering both the quality of sound and ease of recording that MP3s afford these lesser-known acts, they really are able to make their presence heard using this great format. If these MP3s weren't out there, there's no telling what great music would go completely unheard. I have no idea if any bands have "made it" yet by putting their stuff out on the web, but considering the sheer volume of music available, via MP3.com or wherever, it's only a matter of time before someone makes it big thanks to the MP3. We need to remember the good that MP3s do, rather than falling into believing in the trumped-up charge that all MP3s constitute "stealing." After all, if a band puts an MP3 out here ASKING people to download it, there's a better than average chance that they WANT you to hear them! Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 14:23:28 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:20:00 -0700 From: "Courtney" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( -----Original Message----- From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( >I think that these Mp3 things are didgrcaeful especially if they are >songs taht are available on CD ready to buy in the shops! I cannot >access these things anyway because of my computers lack of >capabilities. But just think, if you're an artist, no matter if you're >as rich as INXS-you don't want your creativity & income stolen so you? >Think of all the struggling atits out there-do they deserve a chance. I >think MP3's are dishonest & I would never consider using them or >listening to them as I think you owe it to God, the artist & society to >be honest & truthful & do the RIGHT thing! If you'd been reading the posts, davy has not posted one available track in the 10 months that he has been providing MP3 to fans -- each track was either out of print or off of an already unauthorized recording... you have every right to your opinion, but i don't see that davy has been doing the "wrong" thing... and hey, you might feel differently if you actually had the opportunity to listen to a track that you might never, ever, ever otherwise be able to hear -- like Jans Song (live) or Light the Planet. Hell, if i didn't live with him, I'd be downloading 'em too. respectfully~ courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 15:22:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:30:46 -0600 From: SMAK To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: does NO ONE have the SYNDEY concert here w/ T.T.D. ???? sorry, but after no replies to my first message, I must ask once again - is there no one here that recorded this recnet June 1999 Sydney INXS w/ T.T.D. concert in some format or another (AUDIO/VIDEO ???)...I thought of ALL palces to ask - this would be the one... peace smak X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 16:01:42 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:59:23 EDT From: StarIite22@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( Hello everyone! First off, let me thank Dave 10xs over for the great songs by INXS I have been able to hear and enjoy..otherwise I would never have. I have been keeping up with everyone's viewpoint on this, and I fully agree. My personal view is INXS Management (David Edwards), and could be the band as well, thinks your site is competition because INXS plans to release a high-priced mega CD of rare-b sides and previously unreleased material after Hutchence's solo CD is released late in the year or early next year. Who would by the CD (they must be thinking) if its all available on the web for free in a tribute fan site? (Yes, I would HAVE to have it on CD as well) to answer the big question of management concern.) I do not feel it's all due to the what seemed abandon and ever-lying dormant site INXS.COM, yet, I am sure it also has something to do with it. Yet, if INXS.COM was ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS to begin with, MP3, wavs, photos, information, etc.,etc. would have been there to begin with along with all the dedication, time and soul that has been put into other sites.. Now all of a sudden they want to be a kickass site like everyone else's wonderful site with no competition. I do await final judgment for when the site is finally open because I am wondering a lot of things: Is the site going to be friendly to all others sites and list links the way many to do it? How many other sites will have to come down due to a band project or something INXS. Com wants to do? (I.E., An Xs of Jon Farriss has to come down due to sample photos INXS.COM wants to release of Jon, M.Hutchence's Fan Tribute site due to INXS. Com wanting to build their own or Neil's INXSWeb has to come down due to the format being too similar or the information?) It is possible if a site has to come down over MP3s other site makers should be very alarmed by this. YOURS could be next!) Will INXS. Com take requests for which songs fans want to hear? Will the MP3s be the whole song or just a sample? And one more...seeing how it coming down to financial mumbojumbo hidden behind exclusive and official...will you have to pay for INXS.COM?...alot of bands are placing fees on membership to their OFFICIAL websites. Will INXS (Management) do the same? As for Dave's site being closed by INXS Management I do not agree with or any other site having to taken down. If someone wants to stand up and say THIS BAND IS AWESOME and look or listen why ... it should be an honor. Am I right or wrong? I'm not a single buyer and it was great hearing songs I never heard before and keeping the ones I liked and deleting the ones I didn't like. If you ask me, INXS management should have been asking for your input Dave. Asking what songs were downloaded the most, what songs were requested? clueing in to what songs fans would have been interested to hear the band include on the next project...that type of thing if they were thinking at the whole bigger picture. Again to you Dave, I am sorry to hear that such a wrong decision was made about your site with the reasons they did. Food for thought peeps Ariyonia NOTE* About the lost to the industry in $11 billion... That what the companies themselves have come up with in conjunction to a civil lawsuit against a MP3 Sever. Its not a personal lost to the artist (when the albums/Cass./CD/Single are bought the artisits/Rights holders makes their royalties. Thats the phatcat companies screaming the projected lost. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 17:04:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:16:21 +0100 From: "The JunKster" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: The reason for no more mp3 has it occured to you guys that the band maybe considering the release of rare tracks in the coming future and if all the real fans have heard these songs just who would go and buy these rare tracks when they are released? although i am as sad as the saddest that Daveys site is no more, i can understand that they dont want people know/hear these songs if and only if they release then soon. if they dont release them, then i cant see what the reason for this stupididty is and i will personally go to this David Edwards house and bash him over the head with my grannys handbag!!! Im just a JunKy...why dont you junkie when the heat is on? www.JunXS.freeserve.co.uk X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 18:19:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:20:05 -0000 From: "JERRY CATHY" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Happy Hello INXS fans...I just wanted to say happy 4th of July to all and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO KIRK... I hope he got to hear NEW-YORK - NEW-YORK... CATHY XS5 X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 18:24:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 05:10:53 -0500 From: "Jesse A Torres" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Happy BDay, Kirk...plus NIC: Aussie Noble in TeXS Well, a great BIG fun happy birthday to Kirk! And to the U.S.A., too. So, what's this about an Aussie noble in TeXS? Well, when the San Antonio Spurs won the NBA Championship of 1999 (WOO, YEAH, HOO, BABY!!), the players were bestowed with the title "Hidalgo". Andrew Gaze, who I understand could be the best basketball player in Australia, is on the Spurs roster! I don't have any good shots of Gaze, but if you would like to see my photos of the Spurs Victory Parade on the River, surf to http://www.tripod.com/SpursCity Jesse T "I told you that we could fly 'cause we all have wings but some of us don't know why" My Tribute to Michael - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/8131/inxs.html Dragon Lair - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/9479 X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 18:35:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:28:38 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: SOTW#105 - Move One In responding to the INXS Song of Week you can give your opinions on the lyrics and music of the song, its strong or weak points, and/or any special meaning the song has had at one time, or still holds for you. INXS SONG OF THE WEEK #105 - Move One -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue In my cd player: Those Bastard Souls - Debt & Departure X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 18:43:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:37:44 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On at 06:28 PM 7/4/99, Sue said: >In responding to the INXS Song of Week you can give your opinions on the >lyrics and music of the song, its strong or weak points, and/or any >special meaning the song has had at one time, or still holds for you. > >INXS SONG OF THE WEEK #105 - Move One ^^^^^^^^ Sorry folks that's Move On -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue In my cd player: Those Bastard Souls - Debt & Departure X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 19:37:29 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 16:34:27 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Birthday Wish and a rumer i need to know if its true or not I'd like to wish a Happy Birthday to Kirk Pengilly!! I heard on a radio yesterday after they played a INXS song that the remaining members have a new lead singer for INXS and are going out on tour. I just wanted to find out if anyone of you know if thats true or a just a rumer. Heidi The PL and LLPLLCFKP X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 19:52:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:51:48 -0400 From: "Tony D." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: no more mp3's Howdy folks! I too think it's a "bum deal" on management "forcing" to shut down Davy's site! David wrote: Believe me, SO DO I !(and perhaps many more of us on the list here!) I had very recently bought a CD-RW drive which I had hoped to be able to dnld these mp's (as well as others) so that I could "Enhance" my music collection. I don't think that anyone here was intending to dub CD copies for profit, plus I think that Davy's intentions were to be kind enough to share these with us and anyone else who was interested! Whatever happened to the freedom of expression? Another vote of support (and thanks Davy for having the gonads to do it!)......................................................Regards, Tony D. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 20:31:51 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 05:54:11 PDT From: Donna B To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Rage (sixth song in) Hi Matthew and all Thanks for letting us know about the rage special Matthew...Hey we weren't that far from each other at the concert ... In Never tear us apart did you notice that the sax was dubbed into the song..? Down my end of the stadium there was no sax when Kirk walked off the stage during the song hey... BTW all... Little Tigers in the Sydney Herald today..she's a cutie...but always looks like nobody owns her...The stories one we've heard before just how if it weren't for Tiger, Paula would have killed herself.... Bye all Curious Donna X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 21:12:04 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:10:17 PDT From: Dagette Dillon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On hi all i'm just replying to the song of the week:MOVE ON i absolutely love this song!!!It has alot of meaning for me personally actually it explains alot in my life LOL i think it's one of INXS'S best. >From: Sue >Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com >To: Multiple recipients of >Subject: INXS: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On >Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:37:44 > >at 06:28 PM 7/4/99, Sue said: > >In responding to the INXS Song of Week you can give your opinions on the > >lyrics and music of the song, its strong or weak points, and/or any > >special meaning the song has had at one time, or still holds for you. > > > >INXS SONG OF THE WEEK #105 - Move One > ^^^^^^^^ > >Sorry folks that's Move On > > >-- >Sue sue@mdc.net >http://www.mdc.net/~sue >In my cd player: Those Bastard Souls - Debt & Departure > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 4 23:54:04 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 00:06:35 -0400 From: Neil Kothari To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Limp The Internet Movie Database recently added the complete film credits for "Limp" -- http://us.imdb.com/Details?0199718 There is no mention of a possible release date, and little other information besides the listing of participants. I'm hoping that someone on the List may be able to use the information to find out more! -neil -- nkoth@worldnet.att.net kotharne@umdnj.edu neil@inxsweb.com UMDNJ-NJMS 2000 -- http://www.umdnj.edu/~kotharne/ An Excess of INXS -- http://inxsweb.com/ Now Playing: My Bloody Valentine "Loveless" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 12:50:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Gerard To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: No more mp3s/DD/Tin Star --- "Tony D." wrote: > I too think it's a "bum deal" on management > "forcing" to shut down Davy's site! > I had very recently bought a CD-RW drive > which I had hoped to be able to dnld these > mp's (as well as others) so that I could > "Enhance" my music collection. I don't > think that anyone here was intending to > dub CD copies for profit I've been reading this whole thread with interest, since I wasn't into collecting b-sides of my fave bands, INXS and Duran Duran, until around '96. I don't have a CD burner, and I really haven't listened to many mp3s. Aside from the whole freedom of speech/expression issue (of which I'm a very big advocate), what I find disgusting about the mp3 issue is the fact that there are people out there burning these mp3s onto CDs and selling them for sometimes outragious profits. Not so much with INXS, but with Duran, I'd say roughly a third of the items auctioned off on eBay are CDRs of boots and mp3s, not to mention the number of video *dubs* that I've seen go for well over $50 per tape! I can see where these people are coming from, being that I could be a lot better off financially if I wanted to sell dubs of my rare Duran videos...but it's illegal. I'm even wary of buying boots now because so many are CDRs of poor quality. I do think that INXS' management went too far having Davy close down his site for good, but on the other hand, there might have been people out there going to his site, burning these tracks onto CDs, and selling them for profit. But that's the dilemma with the whole mp3 issue -- it should be our freedom to enjoy these songs without hunting down all the out-of-print vinyl/tapes/CDs, but there are always a few people who spoil it for the many. On a happier note :-)...there was a lot of talk a few months ago on the list about Tin Star and the fact that their music has a real INXS-feel to it. I also know there are a lot of Duranies on the list. Duran are touring this summer...and get this...Tin Star are opening for them! The tour kicks off Aug. 5 in Chicago with three sold-out shows (I'm going to all three -- yay!). Other dates for Duran/Tin Star can be found at http://lizardking.simplenet.com Karen karenduran@yahoo.com Now playing: Soundgarden "Down On the Upside" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 14:11:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:18:52 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On First of all, ... Sue you are not a dweeb. Move On.......this is one of the better INXS b-sides and may have been done at the same time as Different World for consideration as part of the soundtrack.... I am amazed that this didnt end up on some album....(full commercial release) and to this end the Japanese were very lucky in that its on the special edition of Kick released there. I think it's also the only INXS song where you hear what seems like a banjo? I don't know where Andrew got his inspiration for this song from, there's a touch of blues there and some obvious rock motifs. It's one of those songs I can listen to over and over again, it has the more "live" feeling in it then some other INXS recordings where the producer goes to extreme lengths to produce the perfect sound as opposed to just recording what happened. I always prefer the one take INXS to the laboured and intensive INXS. Michaels lyrics are again brilliant....the highlight being "When you said nothing changes, you never said it won't take long" (). With Different World and Move On Mike was sort of given freedom for a bit of adlib in the tunes....they make good songwriters together like that Andrew writes just pure rhythms, and Mike always stepped in and glossed a vocal melody. Does anybody know which guitarist played the "banjo" on this one? Michael Kick Talon Sue wrote: > at 06:28 PM 7/4/99, Sue said: > >In responding to the INXS Song of Week you can give your opinions on the > >lyrics and music of the song, its strong or weak points, and/or any > >special meaning the song has had at one time, or still holds for you. > > > >INXS SONG OF THE WEEK #105 - Move One > ^^^^^^^^ > > Sorry folks that's Move On > > -- > Sue sue@mdc.net > http://www.mdc.net/~sue > In my cd player: Those Bastard Souls - Debt & Departure > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 14:57:15 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:55:38 EDT From: HYBRID1616@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: No more mp3s Speaking as an artist on the whole mp3 .. cd burning issue.. i mean its true that people aren't usually looking ot make a profit on cds they burn from mp3's .. but i mean if you love the band .. why not spend the money .. true not most of the money goes to the artist ... and if your as big as duran duran or inxs .. sure maybe the money doesnt matter...but esspecially if your a smaller band .. and even if your just some guy working for a cd distributor ..if cd buring and mp3 trading continues people are looking to loose jobs .. record companies themselves could close .. mp3s are causing sort of a revolution ... i personally dont wanna see cds fade away like vinyl did..i dont really want to be paying for mp3s instead of buying a nice cd .. ect.. .. ant true the music is the only important thing in the end... but the collapse of the music industry as we know it is kind of scary ..cd .. manufacturing and distributing is a big buisness.. people will suffer from the change and some will profit ..i just dont really perfer to loose cds in my life time... just my 2 cents.. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 15:12:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:10:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC: Morphine Singer Dead I am not sure who knows of this band and who doesn't... but thought I would post it anyway.... Patricia ******************************** Morphines Mark Sandman dead at 47 Morphine's lead singer Mark Sandman has died of a heart attack on stage near Rome. 47 year old Sandman collapsed while performing before several thousand fans at the Giardini del Principe in Palestrina, 30 miles east of Rome. He was 30 minutes into the show when he announced Supersex and then fell to the ground. Doctors tried to revive him but he was pronounced dead in the ambulance on his way to hospital. Sandman was the main man in Morphine, writing and singing all of the bands songs. Morphine was unique in that it didn't have a lead guitarist but instead used saxophone as the lead instrument. Sandman played bass. The bands manager Deborah Klein says the remaining members Dana Colley and Billy Conway are in shock. Sandman's parents are expected to take care of the funeral arrangements. === * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * MICHAEL KELLAND FRANK HUTCHENCE "Good night, sweet prince, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" ~~~ Hamlet X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 15:30:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Irene Cange To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: The Latest Rumor Hi all, I just thought I would pass this along...who knows if it's really true. According to the UK magazine 'Red', Paula has married Finley Quaye. I'm still trying to find out if a) this is true and b) if it is the music star Finley Quaye or someone with the same name. I will keep you posted. (Maybe there's someone in the UK that can shed some light on this?) On a related note, I ran across an interesting site that provides picture services for the media. It's www.mirrorpix.com. You can perform a search of the library on Michael Hutchence or INXS. There is a variety of pix from the early days as well as pix of Michael with various gal pals and some with baby Tiger. And of course, there are a ton of pix of Paula if you search on her name. Irene X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 15:48:44 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The Latest Rumor The only thing I can say here is that this Finley is a reggae singer. Other than that I do not know any more about him. Patricia --- Irene Cange wrote: > Hi all, > > I just thought I would pass this along...who knows if > it's really true. According to the UK magazine 'Red', > Paula has married Finley Quaye. I'm still trying to > find out if a) this is true and b) if it is the music > star Finley Quaye or someone with the same name. I > will keep you posted. (Maybe there's someone in the > UK that can shed some light on this?) > > On a related note, I ran across an interesting site > that provides picture services for the media. It's > www.mirrorpix.com. You can perform a search of the > library on Michael Hutchence or INXS. There is a > variety of pix from the early days as well as pix of > Michael with various gal pals and some with baby > Tiger. And of course, there are a ton of pix of Paula > if you search on her name. > > Irene === * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * MICHAEL KELLAND FRANK HUTCHENCE "Good night, sweet prince, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" ~~~ Hamlet X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 15:51:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:49:44 EDT From: Nhlgal66@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The Latest Rumor Thanks for the update!!!! I will go over and look at the picks of michael .THANKS !!!!! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 17:33:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 5 Jul 99 14:05:44 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: My (hopefully) last comment on the MP3 issue X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id RAA42469 Karen Gerard wrote: > I do think that INXS' management went too far having > Davy close down his site for good, but on the other > hand, there might have been people out there going to > his site, burning these tracks onto CDs, and selling > them for profit. But that's the dilemma with the > whole mp3 issue -- it should be our freedom to enjoy > these songs without hunting down all the out-of-print > vinyl/tapes/CDs, but there are always a few people who > spoil it for the many. This too, is very understandable. I have seen many cases in the computer gaming industry where bootlegging has had a measurable impact on sales of some items. No doubt the same has happened with music and what I was doing could have a tremendous impact if a B-sides compilation were ever to be released. Anyway, the main reason for my post is that a few days ago I stated that I was a bit upset that I hadn't received a reply back from David Edwards. I am happy to say that he has continued a dialoge with me. While it is very obvious that I, and most likely others, will not be allowed to distribute MP3 files, I am very hopeful that I will have the opportunity to share other portions of my INXS collection with the rest of you. But until my site reopens I am unsure as to what will be available. I appreciate all the support I have received from various people over the past week, but for the time being this is an issue which I would rather handle outside the view of this group. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 17:51:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My (hopefully) last comment on the MP3 issue I am glad to hear that you are finding a way to handle it. I know that everyone will respect your request to allow you to handle it yourself. No need to answer... I know you are busy!!! Take care, Patricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 18:22:39 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:39:07 +0100 From: "Sonia MacDonald" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The Latest Rumor Hi Yes it is the music star and no they aren't married. Apparently they've been seeing each other for about a month or so and made their first public appearance at a film premiere in London last week. There was some reports in the papers at the weekend that they were engaged but I think that both of them have denied it. Sonia. ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Cange To: Multiple recipients of Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: INXS: The Latest Rumor > Hi all, > > I just thought I would pass this along...who knows if > it's really true. According to the UK magazine 'Red', > Paula has married Finley Quaye. I'm still trying to > find out if a) this is true and b) if it is the music > star Finley Quaye or someone with the same name. I > will keep you posted. (Maybe there's someone in the > UK that can shed some light on this?) > > On a related note, I ran across an interesting site > that provides picture services for the media. It's > www.mirrorpix.com. You can perform a search of the > library on Michael Hutchence or INXS. There is a > variety of pix from the early days as well as pix of > Michael with various gal pals and some with baby > Tiger. And of course, there are a ton of pix of Paula > if you search on her name. > > Irene X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 18:31:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Irene Cange To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Paula & Finley Quaye Hi again, I found this on Yahoo! UK News: Sunday July 4, 1:39 PM Paula's Boyfriend Denies Marriage Plans Paula Yates and pop star Finley Quaye have scotched reports that they are about to get married after a whirlwind romance. Speaking at the door of Paula's family home in Notting Hill, west London, reggae singer Quaye said: "I've been in the studio all day long. People have been round here bothering Paula all day. It's just rumours." He answered the door of the house wearing only patterned underpants. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 19:14:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:32:54 +1000 From: Steve Sapsford To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXSIVE Website the INXSIVE website is up..... for all you people interested in seeing these guys go to: http://www.inxsive.com.au X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 20:13:39 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:22:33 PDT From: Donna B To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Birthday Wish and a rumer i need to know if its true or not >>I heard on a radio yesterday after they played a INXS song that the remaining members have a new lead singer for INXS and are going out on tour. I just wanted to find out if anyone of you know if thats true or a just a rumer. ========= Hi Heidi and all On the radio the other day they were talking about INXS and TTD like this was a permanent thing...I thought it was a bit strange as this radio station is normally in the know.....mmm Curious Donna X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 20:22:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:15:08 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXSIVE Website G'day Steve >the INXSIVE website is up..... >for all you people interested in seeing these guys go to: > >http://www.inxsive.com.au > Looks unreal mate, when are ya's come'n up Newy way?? Look'n through ya gig guide, ya at Toukley 31/7, might travel the 'great' distance sth an check ya's out. Are ya's come'n back to Toronto? Seen the 7/Aug/98 mentioned. Go'n there next to see the Jet's, apparently there's some Yankee band support'n their tour called Watch Men. INXSIVE AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 21:20:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:32:46 -0600 From: SMAK To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Birthday Wish and a rumer i need to know if its true or not X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id VAA58274 Donna, I am pretty hip to most TTD news, and I can assure you that word (from T's own mouth) posted to the MESSAGE BOARDS on his official site with JAVA/CAPITOL Records is that he will *NOT* be fronting INXS in ANY OFFICIAL or PERMANENT capacity beyond this one-off SYDNEY engagement last month...here's the portion of his message pertaining to INXS and the rumours: ------------------------------ ONE FINAL NOTE..NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE MICHAEL HUTCHENCEíS PLACE. I HAD AND RETAIN A VAST RESERVOIR OF FONDNESS FOR THIS SWEET SOUL. ALTHOUGH I AM FLATTERED BY THE RUMOURS OF MY TAKING HIS PLACE, IN INXS THEY HAVE NO SUBSTANCE BEYOND THAT. SHOULD THEY CONTINUE ONWARDS I WISH THEM THE VERY BEST OF MUSICAL MAGIC AND SUCCESS. -- Terence Trent D'Arby (so proclaimed on his birthday, March 15, 1999) ------------------------------ If anyone is half-way interested in Terence's music...the detailed information on his forthcoming release is worth checking out the entire monologue from which the aforementioned quote was taken: http://www.javarecords.com/artists/darby/index.html again, Donna, I want to thank you for your help in trying to put me with anyone that has the video footage for the SYDNEY Stadium show w/ INXS & TTD...I understand all 4 songs were played on a program in Aussie called "THE RAGE" or something...I *REALLY* look forward to tracking down audio / video soon ;) peace smak X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 21:26:58 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:02:50 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Where Are We??? Hi everyone, I hope everyone had a great Independence Day! (For those of us in the United States, anyway). I wonder just how many of us ARE in the US? Well, that's what I'm getting at!!!! So far, over 100 people have responded to the 'Where Are We" survey. I'd like to ask those of you who haven't yet emailed me with your country and/or city&/state/province do so now. (I'll understand if some of you in the States may not be able to type, since you may have lost a few digits last night). Angus Ted is all set to go with the barbecue, and he's getting very restless! So, I'll set the deadline as this Thursday. Afterwards, I'll turn over all the figures to my Accounting Department (my soon-to-be in fourth grade son. After all, he got straight A's in geography, and I'm still trying to figure out if there really is a Denial River in Egypt). I once again thank all who have responded so far, and those of us who have yet to respond, well, WHERE THE HECK ARE YOU???? Have a great day, and I'll most likely post the results on Friday. Please note that I do have an AOL account, so I may not be able to log on Friday, or I may keep getting disconnected all night, or a five mile-per-hour gust of wind may cause AOL to stop sending signals to my modem, so please bear with me! Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 21:44:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:07:21 PDT From: Donna B To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( >>If you ask me, INXS management should have been asking for your input Dave. Asking what songs were downloaded the most, what songs were requested? clueing in to what songs fans would have been interested to hear the band include on the next project...that type of thing if they were thinking at the whole bigger picture. ===================== AAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH it's cut throat at the top...aint it.... I've had mine cut.. sometimes you kick...sometimes you get kicked X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 22:34:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:31:47 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We??? On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:02:50 EDT, DTKArk@aol.com wrote: I'm in the USA....would like to go to Austrlia...to visit or live...don't know. Heidi > Hi everyone, > > I hope everyone had a great Independence Day! (For those of us in the > United States, anyway). I wonder just how many of us ARE in the US? Well, > that's what I'm getting at!!!! > So far, over 100 people have responded to the 'Where Are We" survey. > I'd like to ask those of you who haven't yet emailed me with your country > and/or city&/state/province do so now. (I'll understand if some of you in > the States may not be able to type, since you may have lost a few digits last > night). > Angus Ted is all set to go with the barbecue, and he's getting very > restless! So, I'll set the deadline as this Thursday. Afterwards, I'll turn > over all the figures to my Accounting Department (my soon-to-be in fourth > grade son. After all, he got straight A's in geography, and I'm still trying > to figure out if there really is a Denial River in Egypt). > I once again thank all who have responded so far, and those of us who > have yet to respond, well, WHERE THE HECK ARE YOU???? > > Have a great day, and I'll most likely post the results on Friday. Please > note that I do have an AOL account, so I may not be able to log on Friday, or > I may keep getting disconnected all night, or a five mile-per-hour gust of > wind may cause AOL to stop sending signals to my modem, so please bear with > me! > > Dennis > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 23:19:46 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:17:13 +1200 From: "N & J McPhail" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The Latest Rumor For what is is worth, in an NZ magazine - it confirms it is the singer and it suggested that she may be pregnant - certainly from the photo it did look as though this might be the case - however she does deny this being true stating she has just put on weight because of the anti-depressants. Just the latest saga in her life! Jam X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 23:39:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:33:55 EDT From: Nhlgal66@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We??? Hi Dennis! Im here in Vancouver,Washington!!!! Wishing I was in australia for a nice little visit to chat with some inxs fans!!!!! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 5 23:46:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:43:31 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We??? Several people have posted message similar to: > Hi Dennis! Im here in ----- Just a reminder folks, PLEASE send these replies directly to Dennis. His addy is: DTKArk@aol.com Thanks much! Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 08:48:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 16:23:40 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Got an INXS Question? Hello everyone! With the current debate re: band management's stand on copyright issues and people thinking the management doesn't know what the fans want...I would like to collect fans responses as to what they would like to know about the band? You may have always had a question you have always wanted answered by them but maybe it was never answered in interviews, or maybe you never have had the chance to ask them yourself? Please email me at with sensible questions only...this is your chance to put your questions to the band! As for my own opinion on the MP3 issue...technically the management is right it is breaking the law and you have to look at it from their view not a fans view, and I guess you have to realise when you use the INXS name you have to obey the rules that come with that. Davy's site even stated "If INXS Management finds out about this site they will close me down", so he knew he was doing the wrong thing from the start. This whole issue is similar to the bootleg cd issue fans love them but they are illegal and you can't expect the bands management to allow that. An ideal situation would be if live bootleg MP3's were banned totally, INXS album tracks alowed an MP3 sample of say 1 minute only as not to effect album sales...and the rarer b-sides which are hard for the average fan to find to be allowed, but with copyright laws I doubt this would be allowed but that's what I'd like to see. There are a number of other bands cracking down on MP3 and copyright at the moment especially in England it's not just INXS. Anyway please email me personally with your questions you want to put to the band! Take Care, Matthew. I would like you to do a report if you have the time on what fans would like to know about the band. As you said, only the sensible ones !! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 08:54:38 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:56:24 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We??? G'day Dennis > Angus Ted is all set to go with the barbecue, and he's getting very >restless! So, I'll set the deadline as this Thursday. Yer, many sleepless nights mate, been watch'n out for any pass's by that are a bit sus, ones that look a bit lost. mmmmm >Have a great day, and I'll most likely post the results on Friday. Which fri are ya talk'n bout mate? This, next or next next??? hahaha >I'm in the USA....would like to go to Austrlia...to visit or live...don't >know. Bring a jumper, it's freezen. >Hi Dennis! Im here in Vancouver,Washington!!!! Wishing I was in australia for >a nice little visit to chat with some inxs fans!!!!! A good ta visit'd be next wk. A Newy band, the Scream'n Jets are do'n 4 gigs around here!!!! TUNNEL AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 11:08:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:08:42 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? To me this MP3 highlights everything that's wrong in this world......there are too many rich people running around making way too much money and everybody is helping them by working for them, getting meagre wages, only to have this pathetic amount of money paid to them, given back to these rich people with exhorbitant prices. It's a ridiculous concept paying huge amounts up the pyramid.....and what's more ridiculous is having some rare MP3s unavailable to fans simply because you can sell more records that way. The sinister thing about not allowing these MP3s on the net is that record companies are aware that if you are listening or downloading these rare Mp3s it means you arent listening to the latest top 40 crap they want you to buy for 10 bucks and plenty....hence kill all the old music and you have to buy the new music and the real trick is most of the new music is just regurgitation of the old. Very similar to Microsofts trick of repackaging Windows 95 and calling it Windows 98. Oh and by the way they already have Windows 2000 ready before 98 hits the shelves.. While we are at it lets literally repackage "Star Wars". But thats another story. I understand that artists want to make money (why lots of it, I dont understand) from the fruits of their labour but this is bordering on ridiculous, record companies will have to find a better solution to this problem otherwise artists wont make any money what so ever.......its all well and good charging 30 bucks for a record but.....stopping people from listening to music is a very dangerous continuum. People only have so much money in their wallets, if you keep taking it away from them......they won't have any and then you can't take anymore.....it's pretty simple. If you overprice records it sets the industry up for this so called piracy. I'm almost disgusted with the amount of legit CDs and tapes I have, what record companies try to get away with these days. It makes you wonder why you would pay for the legit recording when its "illegally" free on the net....You're told that you have to pay more because somebody pirates records....!! Wrong you always pay more.....pirating makes records cheaper LOL!!!! That's a simple fact, companies will always try and charge the most and claim to be the champions of fairplay and boldly quote the laws which they themselves made to justify their course of action......but do they actually compete with each other as is supposed to be in the capitalist world we live in,.. no, an illusion? Competition is for idiots in the rich man's world. Well enough said......it's wasted on deaf ears....it doesnt have a dollar bill behind it. I have some questions for the band, I ask so the whole list may regard themselves as having a shot at answering it if they so desire, as I doubt the questions would be asked. "what are their personal views on the future of "commercial" music with regards to the influence of the internet and the availability of high quality sound production to most people on the planet with in the next decade or so"? "How will INXS' presence on the net change in the next decade in an official capacity"? Anonymous X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 11:28:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:23:59 EDT From: Locomouth@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS Posters Well here I am again 8^) I had a friend who was cleaning out some old inventory and he came across a bunch of INXS posters circa 1987. I was giving them away FREE* (you have to pay for postage, or how you want them sent). So far 3 have gone out and 3 are on hold - Dazza, and Megan and Pete. (Z) I never heard back from you nor (J) so I am offering them to anyone who's interested. Please e-mail me privately. Ciao Tianna That's it. No more long ones. In and out in a flash, that's the all new me. Said the Nightfly to his wife. Anyone can stand by you when you are right, A real friend will stand by you even when you are wrong. A simple friend identifies himself when he calls. A real friend doesn't have to. A simple friend opens a conversation with a full news bulletin on his life. A real friend says, "What's new with you?" A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about are recent. A real friend says, "You've been whining about the same thing for 14 years." A simple friend has never seen you cry. A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names. A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book. A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party. A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean. A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed. A real friend asks you why you took so long to call. A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems. A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. A simple friend wonders about your romantic history. A real friend could blackmail you with it. A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself. A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument. A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight. A simple friend expects you to always be there for them. A real friend expects to always be there for you! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 11:49:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:44:21 EDT From: Locomouth@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS Posters Good grief that was quick! Sorry But there is only a poster left. (A as in one). The poster is circa 1987 with the following #3161 Copywrite 1987 INXSJ. Thanks for listening Ciao Tianna That's it. No more long ones. In and out in a flash, that's the all new me. Said the Nightfly to his wife. Anyone can stand by you when you are right, A real friend will stand by you even when you are wrong. A simple friend identifies himself when he calls. A real friend doesn't have to. A simple friend opens a conversation with a full news bulletin on his life. A real friend says, "What's new with you?" A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about are recent. A real friend says, "You've been whining about the same thing for 14 years." A simple friend has never seen you cry. A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names. A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book. A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party. A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean. A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed. A real friend asks you why you took so long to call. A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems. A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. A simple friend wonders about your romantic history. A real friend could blackmail you with it. A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself. A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument. A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight. A simple friend expects you to always be there for them. A real friend expects to always be there for you! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 13:19:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:11:45 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? Matthew wrote: >when you use the INXS name you have to >obey the rules that come with that. OK, that's no problem as I run a tribute site myself, but WHERE are those rules?? WHERE? To be honest, the stuff happening lately really scares me and I think about removing my site. Maybe others also think that way. So WHERE are the rules? How can we know what we can do and what not? And what is your position concerning this? Are you a representative of the band? Sorry but this is way more than confusing. Rather than speaking of rules here and things not allowed there it would be about time to do some clear official announcement about the band's future. THAT would be what the fans deserve and not hunting websites run by lontime fans and supporters. Markus Pfeffer By the way, is this quote here against any rules? (just joking) --------- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 13:24:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:14:21 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? In Matthew's e-mail there stood: >I would like you to do a report if you have the time on what fans would >like to know about the band. As you said, only the sensible ones !! And what is that about? Is it from a bandmeber? How cool! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 13:52:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:42:49 GMT From: Mike L To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: hey i would like an INXS poster :) um how much and where to thanx alot sorry i dont have your private adress :) LoSt BoY X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 16:10:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:07:09 EDT From: Locomouth@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS Posters - ALL GONE Sorry all posters are gone. No More 8^( Ciao Tianna That's it. No more long ones. In and out in a flash, that's the all new me. Said the Nightfly to his wife. Anyone can stand by you when you are right, A real friend will stand by you even when you are wrong. A simple friend identifies himself when he calls. A real friend doesn't have to. A simple friend opens a conversation with a full news bulletin on his life. A real friend says, "What's new with you?" A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about are recent. A real friend says, "You've been whining about the same thing for 14 years." A simple friend has never seen you cry. A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names. A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book. A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party. A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean. A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed. A real friend asks you why you took so long to call. A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems. A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. A simple friend wonders about your romantic history. A real friend could blackmail you with it. A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself. A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument. A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight. A simple friend expects you to always be there for them. A real friend expects to always be there for you! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 18:52:13 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:41:31 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? at 04:23 PM 7/6/99 +1100, Matthew Marsland said: > when you use the INXS name you have to >obey the rules that come with that. LOL, oh come on Matthew, isn't the band taking themselves a tad bit serious with this one. I have no argument with them wanting to protect copyright, but this sentence makes it sound like if we on this list don't honor and respect the INXS name in all it's glory then we'll all be getting letters from lawyers. Does this mean that the band will be sending us a list of do's and do nots that we can discuss on this list? I hate to think that if I make a negative comment about a band member or one of their songs then that's not obeying the rules and my post will be forwarded to the band's managment. -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 20:10:03 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:33:22 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3 :-( Davy and all, I just went to the site for the first time last week and was able to download my fav song, Deepest Red. Since I was following the site rules, I could only download one. Davy, why don't you just move the site? Change the name and addy. Then see how long it takes them to find the new one. I have written before on the subject of bootlegs and sites with wav files and the like, but it doesn't hurt to mention it again. I think that bootlegs and these internet sites are used only by the biggest fans, which means they have already bought all the CDs that the band puts out. Live CDs rarely generate any money, which is why record companies rarely release them. So a bootleg should be looked upon as public relations for the band, not some kind of rip-off. Management should be grateful that some fans care enough to get live shows, because as I said, these are the fans that are already buying every INXS product available. Davy's site has done nothing more than encourage interest in INXS, which can only produce more sales for them. They should be grateful to him, not asking him to shut down. But then, these people are not economics geniuses, obviously!!! Regards and Salutations, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com *** INXS live Concert CDs and VIDEOS for TRADE and sale*** X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 20:56:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:53:05 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: No more mp3s You know, Reading about how others are making profits on other bands makes me glad for the atmosphere here. Nobody is trying to get ahead or get over on anyone. In fact, we all do a lot of trading so people can hear stuff, absorbing postage costs and other costs just so the music and videos can get around. There are so many fabulous web pages put out by the people on this list too. I think we should take a moment to congratulate ourselves on how many people here have unselfishly given of their time so we can all experience the wonder that is INXS. Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 21:21:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 6 Jul 99 18:15:40 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [No more mp3 :-(] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id VAA92979 liberty-outpost@juno.com wrote: > Davy and all, > > I just went to the site for the first time last week and was able to > download my fav song, Deepest Red. Since I was following the site > rules, I could only download one. Davy, why don't you just move the > site? Change the name and addy. Then see how long it takes them to > find the new one. Well, from the conversation I am currently having with Mr. Edwards it is very evident that he intends to press legal action if my activities continue. I don't particularly have the inclination to push his buttons and see if he's serious or not, but I strongly suspect that he is. Additionally, I've already stated that I intend to respect management's decisions on this matter. I intend to follow my word unless my relationship with the band's management is changed somehow. And just for a moment lets assume that I were going to do so. The ONLY reason that I could offer such a volume of music was because I was presented with the opportunity to host the website at my house. I can't change my static IP with my internet provider (at least not without shelling out extra money). This puts me back in the situation where I am dependent upon a free web hosting service like Geocities or Tripod. Then I have to revert back to the two/three songs every two weeks format. By the time I let two weeks slide by, management has enough proof to dig their claws into me and its TRULY over for me. I mean, I've been on the net for about ten years know and, for the most part, I know my way around. If I REALLY REALLY wanted keep going, I could dig up some of my old contacts from high school who run pirate servers and a few other sources I have lying around and get going, but the whole idea around the MP3 site was that I thought it would be a fun thing to share my collection with fellow fans. And as I said before, it was fun while it lasted. I never had intensions of trying hurt management or pull a fast one over on them, but given the current history of MP3 servers and all the lawsuits going on with them right now, I had no doubt in mind that it would go down when they found it. This is the only reason why I felt I had to try to run around their back. The point here though is that if I were to try to get the MP3s back up, it would turn into a cat and mouse game with management and it wouldn't be fun anymore. If making a website isn't going to be fun for me, its probably not going to be worth the effort. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 21:59:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:15:05 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: The Stadium Concert Video copies for all Okay kids, Let's not all panic at once, but here's the deal. I have received a video of the following: the Stadium concert taped by a loving INXS fan, some news clips and What You Need from the concert, professionally taped. I'm hoping to get the other three songs shortly, but let's work with what we've got. If you would like a copy of this video, which will be in NTSC format, which means North American format, (please do not ask me to explain what NTSC format is) do this: Buy a high quality tape. Don't send any cheap tapes to muck up my VCR. Send it to me along with a self addressed, stamped envelope. Send a proper size envelope, one that pretty much fits the tape. I highly suggest that it be padded. It must have BOOK RATE printed on the envelope in BIG LETTERS, and $1.24 in United States Stamps if you are in the US. If you are in Canada, send me a self addressed envelope with nothing else written on it, and $2.66 in US dollars. Send a proper size envelope, one that pretty much fits the tape. I highly suggest that it be padded. If you are elsewhere, go to your local post office and find out how much it will cost to mail a videotape and a self addressed envelope from me (see the size and padding instructions above) in the USA back to you. Then send me the self addressed envelope and the proper amount of money in United States dollars. If you want me to send it registered mail, find out what that costs and send me that amount. Don't ask me to do your homework for you. I will make the tapes on a first come first served basis. Please do not email me every five minutes asking when your tape will be done. You'll just have to be patient, because if this is going to go anything like the B-Sides did, I'll be making tapes day and night. ALSO, PLEASE REMEMBER, IF YOU LOSE THIS EMAIL, NANCI HAS ALL THE EMAILS ARCHIVED. So go look it up in the archives and don't email me asking for new instructions. Don't email me asking where the archives are either!! The tape I have is going to the converter tomorrow, and I will have it back by Friday, so I will begin making the first tapes over the weekend. This is my addy: Leah Sungenis 9022 Fairview Road Silver Spring MD 20910-4105 United States of America If you want to harass me in person, don't forget, I ain't no liberal and I AM ARMED!!! LOL!! Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:04:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:10:27 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Questions Thanks to everyone who has sent questions to me so far for the band! A lot of you so far have asked about "the future"...I has hoping more to get questions about their career with Michael. Yes it is ok to ask the band questions regarding Michael don't worry! It seems so far people have been scared to ask about him. There has got to be things you want to know...the bandmembers childhood? What is was like touring for months and months without a break? Even where the name INXS came from (if you don't know by now!) Questions about certain albums/songs. Surely everyone has questions they want answers to, but I've got enough questions regarding 'the future', I need more from the past. Everyone is asking what is the future of INXS? This was already answered at the Stadium Australia press conference...they are never going to replace Michael. If they perform live they will use guest singers it's already answered this question. Also I've been asked about TTD...the rumor about him joining permanently is not true, he might work with them again one day, but no one is even joining the band permanently as Tim has said. Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:14:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:17:02 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue At 06:41 PM 6/07/99, you wrote: >LOL, oh come on Matthew, isn't the band taking themselves a tad bit serious >with this one. I have no argument with them wanting to protect copyright, >but this sentence makes it sound like if we on this list don't honor and I know they are because according to the management copyright is a serious issue, it's their job to protect the interests of the band. If you want to be displaying INXS material on a world wide basis such as the internet, material has to be used appropriatly. Not INXS, but some bands even don't allow pictures so at least this isn't the case here! I'm like everyone else I'd like to see the rarer b-sides continue perhaps. But there is no way the band can 'approve' live stuff from bootlegs. I'm sure everyone understands that? >respect the INXS name in all it's glory then we'll all be getting letters >from lawyers. Does this mean that the band will be sending us a list of >do's and do nots that we can discuss on this list? I hate to think that if You can discuss what you like on the list no one from the management is on this list as far as I know. If everyone is so concerned about listening to bootleg material then just send tapes to each other the band's management can't check your letterbox. Or send song files via ICQ to each other, just don't display them in public on the web it's really quite simple. Ok trading tapes has cost involved but all the b-sides would fit on a couple of tapes. Just a question if Davy was told to shut his site down in 24 hours why is it still there in Neil's links to go to? Those letters sounded pretty serious you sent to the list from the Management, I wouldn't test him to see if he was serious or not if I were you. Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:32:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:26:47 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue Matthew wrote: > I'm like everyone else I'd like to see the rarer b-sides continue perhaps. > But there is no way the band can 'approve' live stuff from bootlegs. I'm sure > everyone understands that? I'm sure everyone does understand why the band can't support bootlegs, given that they are illegal. But, and this is the key here, Davy wasn't trying to pass off illegal items; he was offering MP3s of out of print b-sides, live versions (taken from authorized releases, as I understand it), etc. The band *did* "approve" this stuff, about a zillion years ago when it was originally released and before it went out of print. > You can discuss what you like on the list no one from the management is on > this list as far as I know. Ooh, thanks so much for letting us know we're "allowed" to discuss what we want! LOL! Really, I think we know what you mean here, but it struck me as coming off a tad...I don't know...condescending? > Ok trading tapes has cost involved but all the b-sides would fit on a couple > of tapes. Just a question if Davy was told to shut his site down in 24 hours > why is it still there in Neil's links to go to? Those letters sounded > pretty serious you sent to the list from the Management, I wouldn't test him > to see if he was serious or not if I were you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Davy has control over what links are or are not listed on Neil's website. Not to get down on Neil about this at all, but that's *his* responsibility, not Davy's! And to imply that Davy is trying to sneak around and maintain this site, or "test" management is a really unfair accusation, and one at which I take offense. Please don't impugn Davy's integrity because of something he can't control. I for one am sickened by the way this whole thing has come out. Further, Davy has asked that we respect his right to continue dealing with this issue privately, and I think we should abide by that wish. I'm just writing now because I fear that Davy is starting to become a victim of character assassination Can't we just all get along? ;-) Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:39:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:09:48 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: NIC: Morphine Singer Dead Hi. Lisa here. Mark Sandman's death was indeed a shock, especially since I have the first LP by Sandman's first band, "Treat Her Right". Jesus....what a shame! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:46:09 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:11:56 EDT From: Lisa Navarro To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The Latest Rumor Hiya. I hope that what I'm about to say isn't TOO out of line. But, even though I'm sure that Paula Yates is an OK person, the fact that she was rumored to have offed herself not long after Michael died just amazes the hell out of me. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:52:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:54:48 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? At 07:11 PM 6/07/99 +0200, you wrote: >OK, that's no problem as I run a tribute site myself, but WHERE are those >rules?? WHERE? Live Bootleg Material = A Band's Management...these terms don't go together anyone would be aware of that you don't have to be told! I think it was hard for the Management to come down on Davy in regards to b-sides though as he like other people didn't really know this wasn't allowed. I think why Management was so hard though was because Davy's site even stated "If Management finds out they will close me down"...I suggest that is what made them so angry, and the fact he had bootleg songs, if he just had b-sides he may not have been dealt with as harsly I suggest. I haven't heard of anyone else getting letters from the Management? Or doesn't anyone else have MP3's on their site? I've never taken any notice of them in the past until everyone started talking about them last week as I have no need to download them...what does MP3 stand for anyway? >How can we know what we can do and what not? And what is your position >concerning this? My position is that I can see WHY the bands management did this, I sure others on this list can also see the management's reasoning? I also knew the bands was about to crack down on copyright as I spoke to their management in Sydney a month ago, and they mentioned they have been investigating it for a number of months like other bands have. It's the law read any cd and look at the copyright on it. Some bands managements are lazy and ignore it (as INXS Management did in the past when Martha was manager), but obviously INXS management now are doing what they think is right in regards to copyright. Technically they could be say right lyrics, album artwork everything is copyright under INXS but luckily they haven't done that!!! Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 22:54:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:48:24 -0700 From: "Courtney" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Fw:MP3 issue >>Matthew wrote: >>> You can discuss what you like on the list no one from the management is >on >>> this list as far as I know. >then nanci said: > >>Ooh, thanks so much for letting us know we're "allowed" to discuss what we >>want! LOL! Really, I think we know what you mean here, but it struck me >as >>coming off a tad...I don't know...condescending? > incredibly so! because anybody who has paid the slightest bit of attention to what's been going on lately can figure out that maybe management isn't on the list, but someone sure as hell has been hitting that forward button alot. doesn't take a genius to figure that one out... i think it's pathetic. hope whoever it is forwards EVERYTHING and not just what suits their purpose... whatever the hell that is as I can't seem to figure it out yet because it doesn't seem to have any boundaries... just whatever suits their fancy at the time. courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 23:15:52 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:27:32 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue At 10:26 PM 6/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >pass off illegal items; he was offering MP3s of out of print b-sides, live >versions (taken from authorized releases, as I understand it), etc. The Well that's not what I was told, his site had live songs whereby he would then list what bootleg cd they came from. As you say he only had authorized releases...maybe Davy can clarify this? >Ooh, thanks so much for letting us know we're "allowed" to discuss what we >want! LOL! Really, I think we know what you mean here, but it struck me as >coming off a tad...I don't know...condescending? You know perfectly well the content of the list has nothing to do with copyright, or for that matter downloadable music. Why are you blaming me for anyway? Your asking what is allowed on the list...you run the list so what are you even asking the question for? If you don't know whats allowed, then I certainly don't then! If my comment was condescending it was because I was replying to your sarcastic one. >Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Davy has control over what links >are or are not listed on Neil's website. Not to get down on Neil about this >at all, but that's *his* responsibility, not Davy's! And to imply that Davy That's totally not the point, if Davy had removed it in 24 hours over the weekend if people clicked on his site they wouldn't be able to go to it. I went to it today and was able to look at it, so it obviously hasn't been shut down. Nothing at all to do with Neil removing the link to it. >is trying to sneak around and maintain this site, or "test" management is a >really unfair accusation, and one at which I take offense. Please don't If he didn't shut it down in 24 hours then obviously he is going against the letter...I'm just trying to protect Davy from getting in trouble the Management are deadly serious on this issue as you can see from the letters from their manager. Go and get yourselves in trouble then, just remember I tried to warn you how serious they are. >I for one am sickened by the way this whole thing has come out. Further, >Davy has asked that we respect his right to continue dealing with this issue >privately, and I think we should abide by that wish. I'm just writing now If he wanted to deal with the issue privately he wouldn't have sent the letters he recieved from the bands management to this list. He had accepted the decision which I admire him for because if I had a site closed down I'd put a lot of work in I'd be really angry! Don't get angry with me it's not my decision on MP3's, I'm just saying I can see why Management did it. Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 23:23:52 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 6 Jul 99 20:19:44 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id XAA06676 Matthew Marsland wrote: > You can discuss what you like on the list no one from the management is > on this list as far as I know. Matthew, in case you haven't been paying attention, let keep you up to speed on what happened last week. My server was shut down in less than THREE DAYS after announcing I had 40 mp3s for download. THIS LIST IS THE *ONLY* PLACE I ADVERTISED MY SERVER. Management may not be on the list, but somebody close to them sure as hell is. > If everyone is so concerned about listening to bootleg material then > just send tapes to each other the band's management can't check your > letterbox. Or send song files via ICQ to each other, just don't > display them in public on the web it's really quite simple. Oh, so let me get this straight, its OK to break copyright laws in private, but its not OK to break them in public? Isn't that like saying "It isn't illegal unless you get caught?" I know that if I were sitting in management's shoes right now I wouldn't want you speaking for me. > Ok trading tapes has cost involved but all the b-sides would fit on a > couple of tapes. So, whats the difference between posting to this list "would you like me to mail you a copy of this bootleg?" and posting to the list "would you like to come download a copy of this bootleg from me?" It seems like you are splitting hairs over the type of media that material is passed through and not sticking to the issue of violating copyright. Are you implying it would be OK for me to run off tapes for everyone instead of running a server? Because if you are, I would be happy to oblidge everyone on the list if management thought it was OK. If I were as serious about this copyright issue as management is being to me, again, I wouldn't want you speaking for me right now. > Just a question if Davy was told to shut his site down in 24 hours why > is it still there in Neil's links to go to? Oh my my, since when did it become YOUR job to scour the web and find out who links to my website? Awful nosy of you I would think. As for Neil's link to my server, thats a question you should pose to Neil and not to me. I don't write his web pages for him. Considering how hard Neil is working trying to push himself through medical school AND do us all a favor by keeping us informed about the band, you should cut him some slack. And even more relevant to the point, If you follow that link, there is nothing there but my original home page. If you even bothered clicking on anything at my homepage you would notice that the only think left is a picture of Hutch with Michael Stipe and a link to my girlfriends INXS page. > Those letters sounded pretty serious you sent to the list from the > Management, I wouldn't test him to see if he was serious or not if I > were you. How I choose to deal with the situation regarding Mr. Edwards is strictly between me and him. I posted those letters only because somebody here specifically asked what I was asked to do by management. Aside from providing the details of why I was shut down, how David Edwards and I are coming to terms with this situation are really none of your business. I have already kindly asked people on list, and you would be included in that lot, to allow me to finish my business with David PRIVATELY. So unless you can demonstrate to me that you somehow have something at stake in my relations with him, I politely suggest that you butt out. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 23:38:46 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 23:32:54 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue Mathew wrote (in response to me): >>pass off illegal items; he was offering MP3s of out of print b-sides, live >>versions (taken from authorized releases, as I understand it), etc. The > Well that's not what I was told, his site had live songs whereby he would > then list what bootleg cd they came from. As you say he only had authorized > releases...maybe Davy can clarify this? OK, point taken. Like I said, I thought it was just old b-sides and authorized live stuff. So, yes, Davy would be the one to clarify this for us. >>Ooh, thanks so much for letting us know we're "allowed" to discuss what we >>want! LOL! Really, I think we know what you mean here, but it struck me as >>coming off a tad...I don't know...condescending? > You know perfectly well the content of the list has nothing to do with > copyright, or for that matter downloadable music. Why are you blaming me > for anyway? Your asking what is allowed on the list...you run the list so > what are you even asking the question for? If you don't know whats allowed, > then I certainly don't then! If my comment was condescending it was because > I was replying to your sarcastic one. Um, excuse me, but I wasn't the one who ever posed a question about what was or was not allowed on the list. I believe that was Sue (sue@mdc.net) who asked that. This post of mine was my first on the topic. I know that the band is not (and really cannot) monitoring our conversations, I was just pointing out that I personally found (and find) your tone condescending. And again for the record, I WAS NOT the one who'd posted the sarcastic question about what was allowed to be discussed on the list. I'm sure that this was an honest mistake on your part. >>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Davy has control over what links >>are or are not listed on Neil's website. Not to get down on Neil about this >>at all, but that's *his* responsibility, not Davy's! > That's totally not the point, if Davy had removed it in 24 hours over the > weekend if people clicked on his site they wouldn't be able to go to it. I > went to it today and was able to look at it, so it obviously hasn't been > shut down. Nothing at all to do with Neil removing the link to it. OK, I misinterpreted what you were saying. I thought you were somehow blaming Davy for Neil's page even having a link to his site. I apologize. >Don't get angry with me it's not my decision on MP3's, I'm just saying I can see why Management did it. I'm not angry with you personally Matthew, I'm more angry with the whole situation, and the fact that (perhaps mistakenly) I interpreted your comments as disrespectful of Davy, and those who'd posed questions to you about what was and was not allowed in the "rules" you mentioned (I believe) for the first time yourself. I have no doubts of your sincerity or desire for things to go smoothly for all involved, it just seemed that Davy was being blamed for a lot more than was his his due, by any stretch of the imagination. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 23:42:51 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:36:30 -0700 From: "Courtney" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue > >>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Davy has control over what links >>are or are not listed on Neil's website. Not to get down on Neil about this >>at all, but that's *his* responsibility, not Davy's! And to imply that Davy > >That's totally not the point, if Davy had removed it in 24 hours over the >weekend if people clicked on his site they wouldn't be able to go to it. I >went to it today and was able to look at it, so it obviously hasn't been >shut down. Nothing at all to do with Neil removing the link to it. > > oh, matthew... what are you, high? the mp3s had been removed from the geocities site last week.. the link to the mp3 archive is DEAD... it brings up an error page and has since this whole thing started... go to it yourself: http://www.geocities.com/~cc_and_dj/INXS/inxsmp3.html davy put up an MP3 server w/ our static IP -- it's toast... there's nothing there but a "mp3's are gone" message davy took all mp3s off the server and zipped them up in a 233MB file so that if anyone hacked through the network, they couldn't get it if they tried -- at least they wouldn't have time anyway. don't go flinging this crap that he hasn't obliged.. matthew, i'm disappointed in you.. you know how to click on links, don't make accusations like that unless you have proof. i realize that this argument should probably be private, but i just want people to see the absolute bull$h!t that's been going on lately. courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 6 23:44:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 6 Jul 99 20:36:03 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Got an INXS Question?] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id XAA08512 Matthew Marsland wrote: > At 07:11 PM 6/07/99 +0200, you wrote: > > >OK, that's no problem as I run a tribute site myself, but WHERE are > >those rules?? WHERE? > > Live Bootleg Material = A Band's Management...these terms don't go > together anyone would be aware of that you don't have to be told! Oh come on Matthew, is your knowledge of the music industry really that sheltered? The Grateful Dead stated that any of their concerts are free to be copied and distributed in the public domain. I also have a few interviews with R.E.M. where the band has stated that they have no objections to bootlegs. I even have an R.E.M. show that was handed over to bootlegers by Peter Buck himself. Granted, INXS has never gone on record with such statements regarding live recording, but the point here is that it is possible for a band to allow such things to go by. > I think it was hard for the Management to come down on Davy in regards > to b-sides though as he like other people didn't really know this > wasn't allowed. I think why Management was so hard though was because > Davy's site even stated "If Management finds out they will close me > down"...I suggest that is what made them so angry, and the fact he had > bootleg songs, if he just had b-sides he may not have been dealt with > as harsly I suggest. I haven't heard of anyone else getting letters > from the Management? Or doesn't anyone else have MP3's on their site? > I've never taken any notice of them in the past until everyone started > talking about them last week as I have no need to download them...what > does MP3 stand for anyway? Matthew, how stupid do you think I am? First you quote a passage that was on my MP3 server (about management finding out) that I have not posted onto this list, then you say you have never taken notice until everybody started talking about them. Just how do you know what was posted on my MP3 site if you didn't starting taking an interest in it until AFTER my server was shut down? Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 00:00:40 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 6 Jul 99 21:01:37 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id AAA09854 Matthew Marsland wrote: > Well that's not what I was told, his site had live songs whereby he > would then list what bootleg cd they came from. As you say he only had > authorized releases...maybe Davy can clarify this? Yes, I did post about 12 tracks which came from an unauthorized bootleg and 3 tracks from a live concert off of an official release from KDGE radio station. There was information on the site alluding to the fact I intended to post other bootlegged concerts in the future. Maybe now you can clarify for me just how you know so much about what my site looked like? > That's totally not the point, if Davy had removed it in 24 hours over > the weekend if people clicked on his site they wouldn't be able to go > to it. I went to it today and was able to look at it, so it obviously > hasn't been shut down. Nothing at all to do with Neil removing the > link to it. You're mincing words Matthew. The only site that I have running is the Geocities website. It has NOTHING to do with the MP3 server that was being run out of my house. For somebody who just claimed to not be interested in MP3s you seem to have done a really good job of mixing both of my websites up, espically since the geocities site stopped giving out MP3s LONG before you claimed to have started taking an interest in them. As for what content remains of my Geocities website, I have given that link to David Edwards and he is fully aware of what used to be at that website and what is still there. I was only asked to remove MP3s and that is what I did. If Mr. Edwards still has an issue with what few portions of my site remains, he should have told me so in the last email he sent to me. Again Matthew, I have already asked people on the list to allow me to handle this issue with David Edwards privately. You sure seem to be doing a good job of sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong. If management has a problem with what parts of my site I have left behind, then management can come to ME about it. They don't need you to do their job for them and I don't need you harassing me about it. > > If he didn't shut it down in 24 hours then obviously he is going > against the letter...I'm just trying to protect Davy from getting in > trouble the Management are deadly serious on this issue as you can see > from the letters from their manager. Go and get yourselves in trouble > then, just remember I tried to warn you how serious they are. Just exactly how much $h!+ can come out of your ass before bowels start to hurt? If you really wanted to protect me, then why not just e-mail me privately telling me that I forgot to remove a few pages from the Geocities server? Why have the past three posts you made to this come off sounding like you're against me? Why do you have keep dragging this out into public when it isn't necessary? I am the one dealing with management at this point, NOT YOU. If management is really as serious and powerful as you are trying to make them out to be, then why don't you just sit back and let management take care of the issue. I'm sure they know how to take of this issue better than you do. > If he wanted to deal with the issue privately he wouldn't have sent the > letters he recieved from the bands management to this list. Again, I posted those letters because somebody asked. If I wanted to start a war against management, why didn't I post those at the same time I announced that I had taken my server down. If you were paying attention, I only posted those letters AFTER somebody had asked about them. Additionally, I asked to let people let me resolve this issue privately AFTER posting those letters. Of EVERYBODY on this list, YOU are the ONLY person who doesn't seem to be able to let go. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 00:05:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:01:22 EDT From: DaGro1@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC: Help Sonic Youth! Just passing this along... >>> >>> URGENT/SY GEAR STOLEN! >>> >>> >>> >>> july 4 1999 LA/Orange County >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello all, this is Lee from Sonic Youth >>> >>> here, we have had a fucked up situation >>> >>> come down on us over this last night--a >>> >>> brand new Ryder truck parked at a Ramada >>> >>> Inn in Orange County with ALL OF OUR GEAR >>> >>> IN IT was STOLEN! All of our guitars, >>> >>> tools, amplifiers, drums, synth -- >>> >>> EVERYTHING. We are fucked, both for the >>> >>> show tonight at the "This Ain't No Picnic" >>> >>> here in Orange Co., and for shows upcoming >>> >>> this week in Austin and Santa Fe. Our >>> >>> guitars are all mostly older and either >>> >>> very modified and/or fucked up/beat up. >>> >>> They are unmistakably ours, as are some of >>> >>> the amps, including my own 60s Fender >>> >>> Concert with the red/blue/yellow "Jasper >>> >>> Johns-style" target on it. >>> >>> >>> >>> We are asking ANYONE with ANY INFORMATION >>> >>> about this to get in touch with us as soon >>> >>> as possible by calling our man Aaron >>> >>> Blitzstein in New York City at >>> >>> 212.343.2314, or via email to >>> >>> "Mascaras66@aol.com". Call collect if you >>> >>> want to. Please no pranks, all, this is >>> >>> really serious--all the gear we've used to >>> >>> write our last few LPs worth of stuff, >>> >>> instruments used for songs old and new >>> >>> which if truly lost will mean those songs >>> >>> will be lost forever. >>> >>> >>> >>> Help us out if you can, there will be a >>> >>> reward for any info, I'm sure. All our road >>> >>> cases, etc, are fully marked up with our >>> >>> name on them, the gtrs are so unusual that >>> >>> they won't really be too hard to mistake. >>> >>> ANY info at all will be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the thieves themselves read this, I'm >>> >>> sure we'd rather buy the stuff back from >>> >>> you than lose it forever (you fukkerz). >>> >>> >>> >>> here are some descriptions of gear: >>> >>> >>> >>> drums: green satin flame 60s Gretch kit (w >>> >>> "paisley" glow in dark kik head >>> >>> >>> >>> Fender ToneMaster head and 4x12 cabinet >>> >>> >>> >>> Fender blackface Concert (4x10) w "Target >>> >>> design" spraypainted on front >>> >>> >>> >>> PeeVey RoadMaster Head >>> >>> >>> >>> Marshal 4x12 cab >>> >>> >>> >>> Mesa Boogie 400+ bass head/4x10 cab/18" cab >>> >>> >>> >>> Fender Bassman head (two!)/ 2x12 fender cab >>> >>> >>> >>> Fender presicion Bass >>> >>> >>> >>> Gibson Les Paul Jr w snoopy sticker >>> >>> >>> >>> Fender Jazzmasters and Jaguars--lots of >>> >>> 'em, mostly modified to hell (orig >>> >>> electronix pulled, diff p/u's etc) and >>> >>> usually way beat up. >>> >>> >>> >>> Travis Beans--1 koa wood, one red beat to >>> >>> shit >>> >>> >>> >>> White roadcase/briefcase full of gtr tools >>> >>> >>> >>> we will post more equip info later... >>> >>> thanks in advance for any help... >>> >>> >>> >>> PLEASE PASS THIS LIST ON TO ANYONE WHO >>> >>> MIGHT BE OF HELP! >>> >>> >>> >>> ---Lee/Sonic Youth X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 00:11:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:18:21 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] At 08:19 PM 6/07/99 PDT, you wrote: >after announcing I had 40 mp3s for download. THIS LIST IS THE *ONLY* PLACE I >ADVERTISED MY SERVER. Management may not be on the list, but somebody close >to them sure as hell is. That's right there are a number of people that I know of on this list close to Management which includes myself. But I'm nothing to do with copyright decisions let me tell you that! >Oh, so let me get this straight, its OK to break copyright laws in private, >but its not OK to break them in public? Isn't that like saying "It isn't It's not OK to break copyright laws, but no one would know that way that's what I'm saying...everyone owns some form of bootleg cd, or has copied a tape for someone. This is why apart from perhaps a couple of places like Tunnel Records, bootleg traders do not have sites on the internet. People are copying MP3's onto cds and selling them...look at eBay right now there is an MP3 which features INXS that has about 180 songs on it. >illegal unless you get caught?" I know that if I were sitting in management's >shoes right now I wouldn't want you speaking for me. I'm nothing to do with the bands management. I'm just agreeing with what they said, and it makes no difference what I say on the matter. >So, whats the difference between posting to this list "would you like me to >mail you a copy of this bootleg?" and posting to the list "would you like to >come download a copy of this bootleg from me?" It seems like you are There is no difference I agree but the Management won't know about it if it's not on display to the world. >Oh my my, since when did it become YOUR job to scour the web and find out who >links to my website? Awful nosy of you I would think. As for Neil's link to Neil's website is my start up page when I open Netscape everyday. I personally don't give a stuff about MP3's I've never downloaded one in my life. I have never even seen your site then, all I've seen is the old one at Neil's page. >me to finish my business with David PRIVATELY. So unless you can demonstrate >to me that you somehow have something at stake in my relations with him, I >politely suggest that you butt out. I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'something at stake' which you might like to explain to me privatly this comment? I'm have to butt out from helping you ok, but maybe you think I'm not helping so thats alright. But if you and Courtney want to make defamatory statements suggesting it was me who reported your site to Management you better think again. Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 09:13:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 6 Jul 99 22:12:57 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [[MP3 issue]] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id JAA44553 Matthew Marsland wrote: > That's right there are a number of people that I know of on this list > close to Management which includes myself. But I'm nothing to do with > copyright decisions let me tell you that! But you're avoiding the point. Even if management isn't on the list, the fact that somebody is reporting to them is just the same. I have already talked to at least one individual who is afraid to get involved in this arguement because they are worried about what management might think if they find out. You've already stated that you knew copyright enforcement was on its way about a month ago. I have no doubt in my mind that there more of this yet to come. > I'm nothing to do with the bands management. I'm just agreeing with > what they said, and it makes no difference what I say on the matter. And what I find funny about this whole situation is that you seem so intent to pick on me when I HAVE FULLY COMPLIED WITH DAVID EDWARD'S REQUESTS. If you agree with management, then what is there to talk about regarding my MP3 server? Its gone. I've already posted a statment to this list stating that I'm ready to let this situation pass. Why aren't you ready to let it pass when it wasn't even your server and you aren't part of management? > Neil's website is my start up page when I open Netscape everyday. I > personally don't give a stuff about MP3's I've never downloaded one in > my life. I have never even seen your site then, all I've seen is the > old one at Neil's page. Do me a HUGE favor then. Go back to Neil's page. Go click on his link to my website. Look around my website all you want. In fact, that really big button that says "MP3 Archive", I invite you and everybody on this list to click on it and see exactly how compliant I am being with management right now. I'll even help you, all you have to do is go here: http://www.geocities.com/~cc_and_dj/INXS/inxsmp3.html > I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'something at stake' which you might > like to explain to me privatly this comment? I'm have to butt out from > helping you ok, but maybe you think I'm not helping so thats alright. > But if you and Courtney want to make defamatory statements suggesting > it was me who reported your site to Management you better think again. All I mean to say is that David Edwards has asked me to finish resolving this issue privately outside of this newsgroup. I have agreed to that request. I am trying my best to comply with that request. I have openly stated to this newsgroup that I would like to resolve this issue privately and that outside help is appreciated, but not wanted. The fact that you are the one that keep bringing this issue out into the open only goes to show that you are not helping me abide by Mr. Edward's request. IF YOU TRULY WANT TO "HELP" ME, DROP THIS ISSUE FROM THE LIST AND LET IT GO! As for accusing you of anything, I never made such a claim. What I do know is that you have issued contradicting statements on this list and are trying to play dumb while doing it. None of your actions here have been even been polite towards me and many of them have been accusing me of continuing to engage in activities that I have ceased to participate in. You may have not reported anything to management, but it is pretty obvious that your statements on the list are geared toward an agenda that would not benefit me. If this is not the case, then I apologize for the accusation, but unless you drop the MP3 issue and let me handle it with David privately, I have no reason to beleive you are acting in my best interests. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 09:14:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:29:09 +1100 From: Matthew Marsland To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Private messages only from now. At 11:32 PM 6/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >And again for the record, I WAS NOT the one who'd posted the sarcastic >question about what was allowed to be discussed on the list. I'm sure that >this was an honest mistake on your part. Sorry my mistake I thought you posted it. I'm getting mixed up with all these posts today...I guess I'm trying to defend the wrong side aren't I! But all I'm saying I see why they don't approve bootlegs or whole album songs (I would approve of samples myself as I think they help sales)...I understand people been upset that their chance to listen to b-sides has been taken away...but didn't you read I agree b-sides should be allowed. I had an idea that songs and videos would be removed as I was told in Sydney last month when up at the TTD concert by Management. Anyway I didn't realise you had two sites so I got mixed up, and I didn't check to see if the links to download worked as Courtney stated so I'm sorry for mixing your sites up. I was obviously talking about the wrong one. As I stated I have no interest in MP3's so I asked around about your site over the weekend when this debate started which is why I know what it contained, but as you explained to me there is different ones so if I've said something regarding one site that was meant for another I'm sorry. >I'm not angry with you personally Matthew, I'm more angry with the whole >situation, and the fact that (perhaps mistakenly) I interpreted your >comments as disrespectful of Davy, and those who'd posed questions to you Look all I am trying to do is give people how management would see it, INXS to them is a business as well. I don't care if Davy has MP3's or not personally, that doesn't make any difference to me at all. I was going to ignore this whole debate (which I wish I had now), but everyone was critising the management at the weekend so I decided to come in and try to put things from their point of view...obviously it hasn't worked and people are now complaining about me too I guess I'm the scapegoat. If you want to complain about me or things I say then please do in private from now. I will longer be replying to messages on the list about this topic. And if I read anymore emails with comments like I read before about me...you can stop relying on me to tell you all the INXS news which I've done for years now and go find it out yourselves, and considering there is very few people from Australia on this list your not likely to hear much news (I know it was only two or three people out of 300 odd, but surely comments like that aren't allowed on this list Nanci, none of my comments have been a personal attack on individuals and I won't put up with that if it were to continue) Lucky I'm not as serious about law suits as the management are, as I'm pretty sure some of those comments against me would stand up in a defamation case, but I know you are just pissed off at my view on this topic so I will just ignore it. Anyway send messages in PRIVATE!!! Thanks, Matthew. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 09:15:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:44:23 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Got an INXS Question? Thanks for the reply Matthew! Well, concerning live bootlegs David already mentioned soke bands are even glad about that. However, 2 questions are still unaswered: 1) What is your position? I mean WHO are you concerning the band to give us the opportunity to ask them questions? I wouldn't send any questions out until I knew who a person is. 2) I asked who the person cited in your letter (probably not on ourpose LOL ;-P) was. It must have been a member of the band, right? Markus Pfeffer --------- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 09:16:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 03:20:49 EDT From: AMclau3891@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We??? San Francisco, CA X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 10:37:44 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:29:50 EDT From: StarIite22@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Some Questions Hiya peoples- I have to ask in keeping up in the MP3s discussion here. Matthew what is your role in all this? Why is that you alone are taking up the issues as if you are management? You, yoruself said you enjoyed what Dave was doing but instead of 'sorry to hear the news or thanks', You've taking up cause as if you are on INXS payroll. Certainly asking for questions from listers as if you are tied into management? With a little common sense I would only then have to ask; if you have it like that between INXS & their management, are you the one who relayed Dave's site? Certainly if you would run questions by INXS/Edwards from listers you have the contact and would run everything else by them. BTW-Does it matter Neil did not remove Dave's site link right away? What would give you the right to demand something on someone else's site? Did you have to mention that here? Obviously you know him by your tone, why did you not just Email Neil and remind him? I am sorry to say but you do indeed seem to have a condescending attitude with how you are making your views heard in your posts. I am not disagreeing with your valid points just the way you are making yourself sound. Seriously wondering the answers (and I am certain other requiring minds would like to know) Ariyonia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 10:46:25 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:38:38 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: MP3 .... issue Guys, guys, guys ... PULEEZE!!! Take it outside, okay? It doesn't really matter who told what to whom, it's over and done with. I swear I feel like I'm watching CNN here today. Could you guys confine this argument to private emails? It was mildly interesting at first, but now it's just degenerated into an annoying little spitting contest, and I'm sure we all hear enough of them in our lives everyday already. Peace, okay? Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 10:53:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:46:16 EDT From: StarIite22@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Private messages only from now. In a message dated 7/7/99 12:21:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marsland@deakin.edu.au writes: > That's right there are a number of people that I know of on this list close > to Management which includes myself. One of my questions have been answered. Next topic. Ariyonia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 11:38:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:02:28 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] Matthew and Davy, If you two are going to argue, can you please do it in private? I don't want your fight showing up in my mailbox. I really wish a lot of the arguers on various topics would take it private. Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 11:54:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:05:21 +1000 From: "Mystify" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Downloaded music fees debated at conference (http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/head Home - Yahoo! - Personalise - Help -------------------------------------------------------------------- ABC ONLINE Home | Top Stories | Business | Politics | Marketing | Tech | World | Sport | Entertainment | Travel | more Yahoo! Australia & NZ News Top Stories Headlines Wednesday July 7 7:03 AM AEST Downloaded music fees debated at conference A conference in Brisbane today will debate the vexed issue of whether people should pay for music downloaded from the Internet. 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X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 12:02:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 06:58:36 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue at 12:17 PM 7/7/99 +1100, Matthew Marsland said: > Not INXS, but some bands even don't >allow pictures so at least this isn't the case here! You probably should have added after the end of your sentence - yet. Again, I have no argument with the band in wanting to protect their copyrights. But I think we are starting down a real slippery slope here. First they start with the big thing, mp3. I can understand their reasoning, but I disagree with it. But then what is next after the sound files. What if I link to a gossip site that may have some unflattering stories of one of the band members, do I get a letter to say remove the link or we'll shut you down. What if I have an unflattering picture, will they flex their right to protect copyright arm? And don't think for a minute if I was to say something far fetched on this mailing list about a band member that the list rat can't get me in trouble with managment by saying I'm being libelous. For me, this goes way beyond the mp3 issue. I see managment DICTATING what we can and cannot say on our web sites and yes on this mailing list. -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 12:34:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:14:23 EDT From: StarIite22@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Arguements No one can deny this past topic in the beginning or dismiss it because the fact of the matter is: you stop one thing in a website...you can stop more. The discussion wasn't just between Matthew and Davey. Mainly but others were involved I for one was/am. I can owe up to it. Many were involved posting their view points, comments and asking questions. No one knocked vaild points just the comments being made. We all agreed on fringement rights, copy rights, bootleg rights and so forth. Many came forth and agreed it was a shitty thing to do whomever reported Dave's site to management and more than not pleased to see the MP3s he shared with so many of us had to be taken down. No one can blame just Matthew or Dave its open to everyone. A topic you don't want to read, or not interested in or not apart of; delete it. Further more, if no one is allowed to comment, have their view point read, question a comment or someone's intent/view point .. what are we communicating for on the list? We all know how damn good INXS are or we wouldn't be on the list. We can talk shop and songs until the cows come marching home but points, questions, asking, answering, oppositon, broader discussion and seeking agreement to what is right and wrong is what communication is all about. Of course things are going to get mistaken, confused, cris-crossed and heated, it's also the nature of discuission and but talk that is right always wins out over what was wrong. And in the end eventually everyone comes back together wiser, more respectful and willing to discuss even more over a common goal. Here it's admiration for INXS. Hopefully this is understood Blessing & Enternal Light~ Ariyonia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 12:41:06 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 7 Jul 99 09:33:51 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [[MP3 issue]] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id MAA72095 Leah: As you can tell, I was very incensed over some of the things that Matthew has posted and I did let it get out of control. My bad :-(. Matthew has mailed me privately and I think we will be able to squelch this thread. I'm sorry for bringing my mess into your life. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 13:08:31 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:00:06 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: I'm back (was: The Latest Rumor) Irene Cange wrote: > According to the UK magazine 'Red', Paula has married Finley Quaye. Hi all! Missed you tons!!! Just returned last night from the UK and this mag. was one thing I wanted to post about..... How wild that it's already here! I read the article this morning and don't remember a peep about a marriage present or future... Perhaps the jet lag's getting me?! This new romance is also featured on the cover of "Now" and it didn't say a thing about marriage either.... Anyway, as far as "Red" goes....if you can, go get it!! It has so many current pictures of an absolutely adorable Tiger!!! Not to mention a picture of Michael and baby Tiger in Madonna's tub and Michael asleep with Tiger beside him.... While in London I went to Tower Records and was actually able to buy some INXS CD's!!!!! I won't mention how much they cost me.... LOL!!! Let's just say it sounds a lot cheaper in British pounds than US dollars!!! But considering there's no way this US citizen could purchase them at home, how could I resist? Isn't that what credit cards are for???? The best thing I got was the Talk CD that doubles as a clock!!! Can't wait to put it in a place of honor on the mantle. I had the opportunity to go to Rock Circus and see Michael's wax figure, got in line....and then chickened out. Wouldn't do at all to stand crying in front of all of those London teenagers.... I had already seen some other, unimportant wax figures and the realism of them was just too much! It's great to be back! Love and Peace, Heidi B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 13:35:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:22:27 -0400 From: "Karen L. Sweeney" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Looking for someone Heh all! Karen S. here just checking in and also looking for someone. There is a guy who sent me a check for $4 for the Pittsburgh show - sent it to me in a work (I presume) envelope possibly from the Philadelphia area... My husband cashed the check before I could copy down the address - and I can't find the envelope with the work return address. I owe you a tape. If this is you please email me and I will be in touch about sending you the tape. Thanks. Karen S. Wnt2psu@hgo.net X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 14:53:44 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:45:02 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Thoughts on copyright and bootlegging Hi all, Once something is published, it is available in the world. We can easily tape anything off the radio already, so what's the difference between taping it off the radio, tv or internet? Now taping something for your own listening pleasure is one thing, but what about trying to sell it? Record companies make no distinction; they think both are equally bad. There have always been bootleggers and there always will be. One way that bands and record companies can eliminate bootlegging is to provide the product that bootleggers are providing. For instance, put out more live shows, and re-release old music. The problem with that is that it costs money to release material, and often the company loses money by doing it. Bootleggers have no overhead and so can produce the product cheaply. If fans want the music bad enough, they're going to get it any way they can get it. You can accuse a bootlegger of being evil, greedy, or whatever, but at the end of the day, she/he is providing a service that people sorely want or they would not be going to bootleggers. It is a matter of supply and demand. Regards and Salutations, Princess Leia Leader, Rebel Forces Liberty-Outpost@Juno.com *** INXS live Concert CDs and VIDEOS for TRADE and sale*** X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 15:27:15 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:15:39 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue Amanda said: >Guys, guys, guys ... PULEEZE!!! Take it outside, okay? No, if this is not INXS-related, then what else? Sue wrote: >I see managment DICTATING what we can and cannot say on our web sites and yes on this >mailing list. Right, and that's a very important thing for someone like Sue and myself, we both run INXS fan websites. Matthew spoke of RULES, I asked what and where they are and he doesn't reply. I want to know. If you start writing about unknown rules you better reply to people who ask what those are. Markus Pfeffer ----- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 16:10:32 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:02:33 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue <> I'm not saying it's non-INXS related. I'm just talking about all the point/counterpoint fingerpointing. The "you said this," "no, I said that," crap. Excuse me, but it's childish, and I applaude both Davy and Matthew for finally realizing that and taking their argument into a private mode. After all, when someone has an opinion, you can only argue so much before your head starts bleeding from banging it against a wall. Amanda -----Original Message----- From: Markus Pfeffer [mailto:pfeffer.markus@online.de] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue Amanda said: >Guys, guys, guys ... PULEEZE!!! Take it outside, okay? No, if this is not INXS-related, then what else? Sue wrote: >I see managment DICTATING what we can and cannot say on our web sites and yes on this >mailing list. Right, and that's a very important thing for someone like Sue and myself, we both run INXS fan websites. Matthew spoke of RULES, I asked what and where they are and he doesn't reply. I want to know. If you start writing about unknown rules you better reply to people who ask what those are. Markus Pfeffer ----- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 16:32:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:25:44 -0500 From: "Pels2058" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm Back (was: The Latest Rumor) can someone scan these pictures for those of us who are unable to get the magazine? Love & Peace, Moni >Anyway, as far as "Red" goes....if you can, go get it!! It has so many current >pictures of an absolutely adorable Tiger!!! Not to mention a picture of Michael >and baby Tiger in Madonna's tub and Michael asleep with Tiger beside him.... X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 16:54:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:45:23 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue >you can only argue so much before >your head starts bleeding from banging it against a wall. I don't argue. I asked several times for answers on things mentioned. We are told that there are rules concerning running an INXS website, but no details at all. I just want to know what those are. That's no arguing. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 17:54:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Kemmish To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Some outsiders thoughts and very sad news :-( Hi everybody. I've kinda lurked on this list for some time and I just wanted to put in my two cents on some of the issues goin on. To Matthew - When you made that original post to the list about lettin us ask questions to the band to find out whats goin on, you must have a way to talk to them or you cant post somethin like that to the list. So, somebody in with INXS had to give you the okey dokey to post that letter. Markus even showed us where you left a little quote behind from one of the band members on that post but you wont tell us who it was. At the same time, you started makin claims about Davy's situation with the MP3s. So, by puttin those things together in the same post, it sure sounded to me like the band gave you the okey dokey to make a statement about Davy as well. It seems like a lot of other things you said lately might have come from the band as well, like followin rules and stuff. But then I see in another post you said you don't represent the band. I think you ought to be more clear about when youre speakin for you and when youre speakin for them. Cause a lot of things I see comin outta your mouth seem like you know about whats going on. Im gettin confused tryin to figure out whose really talkin when you send stuff to the list. To Davy - Damn boy! You sure know how to shoot your mouth off don't ya? This is the second time in about a month I seen you post something really offensive to the list and then apologize and eat crow over it. You need to take chill pill or somethin. You keep pulling stuff like that and it wont be long before youll be makin enemies with everyone. Of course thats only if Nanci doesnt kick ya off the list first. Course I dont wanna go speakin for Nanci so please dont take that the wrong way. I do wanna say though that you made some comment the other day wantin your website to be fun. I know I want visitin the web to be fun too. I would be a shame that if you or that manager guy were to go do somethin to spoil the fun for the rest of us. But I know youre wantin us to be quiet about that so Ill be shuttin up about it now. Finally, something really bummed me out today. I was checkin out Stayza's webpage and it looks like that ROTO thing she had goin where we could visit everybody elses website is gone. Im thinkin with all this yellin and hollerin goin on about copyrights that she got scared somebody would use her links to snitch on other people who are makin websites for us all. Its a shame that the stuff thats happenin has made her feel this way. Shes not even involved in this mess and it breaks my heart to see a bystandard like her hurt over what the band is doin to other people. Thinkin back to what I said above, it sorta looks like the fun is already startin to go away. Kent Oh yeah, if you dont know where the ROTO thing is, you can go see it at http://www.enteract.com/~stazya/reach.html X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 18:39:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Kemmish To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Whoops! Sorry about that three posts thingy. My mail program messed up. Kent X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 19:52:55 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:42:28 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm back (was: The Latest Rumor) In a message dated 7/7/99 1:18:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hbeaulieu@ticz.com writes: > t's great to be back! > Love and Peace, > Heidi B. Welcome back, Heidi! Now, if you'all don't mind, I think I'm gunna hide here in this room for a little while. The digital list is about ready to explode again. I could tell something was up when I turned on my computer and it started to tremble. Amanda, do you mind if I hide under that chair, even if there are dusty balls between the legs? Dennis ROFL!!! You flatter me, girl! I'm just a bag lady skulking around looking for some dust balls under the chair legs! Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 20:12:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:08:37 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Where Are We? I'm just here to remind everyone that tomorrow (Thursday) is the last day to email me privately and let me know which country, etc you are in. I'm sorry Nanci (and everyone else) for continuously posting these reminders, but it seems that every time I do, there is an immediate little flurry of participants that follow. Almost half of the list has responded so far, and the more participants we can get, the more fun the results will be. Take care, Dennis If you have not already done so, please email me at DTKArk@aol.com and all you have to do is type what country you are in (or if you don't mind being more specific, which city and state/province) in the subject line. If you have a spouse/child/grandmother/neighbor/co-worker, etc, that also reads list mail with you, please let me know that there are two or more of you at that particular area. Thanks! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 20:54:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:51:05 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: mp3's...why couldn't they left the Christmas Song Ok...i just let out a good AHHHHHHHHH....the multimedia took off the Christmas Song....whimpers...that Kirk sang. Oh man and i loved that song and i was gonna go and listen to it but it says something about MP3'S have been removed by INXS manengers(sp). Heidi :( X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 20:59:11 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:55:15 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: whoops It was INXS management not managers that took off the MP3'S X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 21:25:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:39:03 -0400 From: Neil Kothari To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: The End Of ROTO... Hey gang, Yes, I've been (relatively) quiet on this whole MP3 issue, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how I feel about it. As an INXS website maintainer, I'm obviously not too pleased about the recent developments, and now the first casualty has occurred. For those who haven't yet read the message that Stazya has written on the ROTO pages, I've copied it below because I think it's extremely important that everyone reads it. It's an eloquent editorial from the heart, and is further proof that times are changing... for better or for worse. On another note, I've been told to remove the INXS MP3's on my site, pending the larger list of guidelines that will be released by management in the near future. I've adhered to the request. > Hello to the thousands of you who visit my small corner of > the world each week. I'm sure that you're a little > disoriented and wondering where the pages you've come to > depend on have gone. As I've stated for the two years this > site has been up, I created it solely for you, the fans, to > find the people & resources you need to share your love for > INXS and your grief for Michael. I intended to keep the > pages available for as long as possible, hopefully until > there were no more resources out there on the Web. > > Unfortunately, times change, people change, even bands > change. > > It has come to my attention that INXS management is now > scouring the Web, looking for copyright infringements and > asking the faithful INXS Webmasters to disassemble portions > of their sites. They are asking fans to remove downloadable > materials from their pages - what that downloadable material > will be they have not said yet. So far they are targeting > multimedia, but pictures, lyrics, articles and even the name > INXS are all copyrighted and downloadable. We will have to > wait and see. > > Management has not approached me and I never expected to be > approached. You cannot copyright a link, and I have no > material to download except the letters you have written me. > > But, as my site has provided a link between you and the INXS > Web, so too could it provide the INXS management an easy way > to scour INXS Web sites and to attack Webmasters who do > nothing more than pour out their love and faith into their > small corner of cyberspace. > > I still love INXS with all my heart, but I cannot take the > chance that this part of my creative soul could be used to > hurt other people. It goes against everything I am. > > I never in my wildest of nightmares thought that a band I > have loved for more than half my life - 18 years of my > existence - would treat their fans in such a way. The sorrow > I feel as I write this note is only comparable to the sorrow > I felt the day Michael died. > > I will watch this matter very closely with hope and love and > peace in my heart. And when the matter has been resolved, > maybe there will be a place for these pages again. Until > then, I will still be here if you need me - my box will > never close. > > Love and peace to all of you, > > Stazya > -- nkoth@worldnet.att.net kotharne@umdnj.edu neil@inxsweb.com UMDNJ-NJMS 2000 -- http://www.umdnj.edu/~kotharne/ An Excess of INXS -- http://inxsweb.com/ Now Playing: My Bloody Valentine "Loveless" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 7 22:24:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:16:58 -0500 From: Sherry To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The End Of ROTO... I still remember when Stayza put up those pages. We were all still struggling in with our sadness and reaching out to others who understood how we felt in a world where mourning a rockstar was "strange". How many of us heard from friends and family... "get over it... you never knew him". But the tribute pages, the chat sites, this list, all served to let us know we were not alone and that someone, anyone, understood how we felt and together we could smile, even for just a bit. I did my own little tribute page and because of Staz's page, got heaps of visitors who's lives touched mine as my words touched theirs. We helped each other once again. The internet became a place to find friends, find a laugh, find acceptance and know you were never alone. I can't explain how much this saddens me. But I have to say that I stand behind Staz 110% on this one. She's protecting us and the sites we turn to again and again. Thank you girl... you are amazing! Now who's next? You know, if it wasn't for Neil's site and this list and being stuck up where I am, I wouldn't have even known INXS released Elegantly Wasted. I wouldn't have had the opportunity to go to Australia and meet some wonderful people and step on the INXS star in the Hard Rock Cafe in Sydney. I wouldn't have some of the friends who are so dear to me now and so I thank Neil with all my heart for it was because of him and the site that started it all, that I found the most precious thing in my life. So what happens if management continues? What else will we lose? And I ask again who will be next? I am not afraid to say that I think Neil's site has played a major part in keeping the band alive for so many of us. And if management keeps up... will we still have An Excess of INXS? I hope so... I can't imagine a world without it. Matthew asked us to forward questions... okay. Here's mine: When does it end? Neil had dedicated more time and effort and love into this band than any other person. So what is his thank you? Staz worked so hard to help bring INXS fans together to remember MIchael and help heal our sadness. Where is hers? And all the others... countless tributes and INXS sites.. keeping us linked globally, keeping love for INXS alive. Where is their thank you's? And the thing is... none of them even expect thanks. They just do what they do out of sheer love for INXS. That's it. No one gets paid, no one gets fame, they are just doing what they love. No one should feel their page has to be removed, but they do. Right or wrong in their beliefs and legalities, management have given us boundaries and rules on how we show our love and on how to be fans and we are all losing.. INXS, management, and us. I don't blame the band.... INXS has always been and always will be number one for me... but I no longer know how to show that love. I am working on a new web page that was going to have it's own INXS page also linked through my tribute page, but I no longer have the desire to expend the time and energy required if there is any possibility that in the future, I'll have to take it down or be told what content can be on it. This is censorship gone haywire. In cyberspace, without a filter, my son can access pages on murder, how to build a bomb, child pornography and graphic acts of violence against animals, women, children.... and yet he can't download an MP3 of an INXS song he would never have heard otherwise. Can someone explain why this is possible? Cause I simply don't understand. And I don't blame INXS management for all the crap on the net... but I ask.. with so much crap out there? Why take away the good stuff? I just don't get it.... Sherrianne X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 09:22:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:19:20 EDT From: RStreeting@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The End Of ROTO... Nice job out there, "Management"! Clever thinking of you to alienate the core group of fans who still care what becomes of INXS. Ever heard of the phrase "to shoot oneself in the foot?" What a sad place this list, and INXS fandom has become in the past few days. I feel very sad, and a bit sick about this whole recent turn of events. Fans who worked hard out of genuine love and the desire to keep this wonderful band alive have been made to feel like criminals. To those who had a hand in this, shame on you. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 09:27:22 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:15:35 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? G'day Dennis > I'm just here to remind everyone that tomorrow (Thursday) It's already thursday arvo down here mate. 4.15pm is the last >day to email me privately What happens after now then????? A bit confused, where, when & how can we email buddy????? hahaha MYSTIFIED AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 09:30:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:27:18 +1000 From: Michael Kick Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue Seeing as how INXS management obviously considers this list a great tool, I was wondering if they were going to get around to paying us for the great ideas that come from each and everyone of us all the time. Just an idea I'm sure all of you agree it's a fairly good one.......I could always do with an extra 5 dollars here or there. :) Okay so some of you thought I was serious.....the cheques not in the mail! It also occurs to me one problem that management will always consider and thats when the INXS logo or other paraphernalia occurs alongside advertisement of something else, because that to some extent is using the INXS name/image for income. Of course this will occur on millions of sites and not just using the INXS name. However on the other hand I always thought that the more hits INXS gets in a search engine the more records they are likely to sell. If they ever do start picking on pictures, and god (Michael will do for now) help every one if that happens...lets face it most of the photos out there are of Michael Hutchence,..... they would be condemning his memory to dusty boxes in the back of some basement with a broken grammophone and a vinyl LP of KICK turning around at 33rpm without sound......... Would it be the goal of management to aid the future of INXS if Michael were to be forgotten as you can't sell new INXS records if you're always going to be comparing any lead singer with the master? Maybe not, but thats what could happen / is happening based on the Stayza (sp?) example and others. I think we can start guessing whats coming...........all sites using an INXS logo or U2 or whatever will all have to link to the official site atleast once or maybe twice. And the official sites will all be about giving you every opportunity to buy the albums and singles online and you can download some of "their" pictures for free. And maybe they will even offer you subscription to magazines and newsletters based on what fans like Neil, Sue and others have already been doing for years now. Only you will have to pay for it and you might get a free mp3 now and then. This issue is a complex one and as always the part that makes it twist and turn like an evil thorn is the money.....I just think management has to see some of the fans on the INXS list as a resource that needs respect not harassment and observation at our expense. I just find it annoying that we could be being watched for the purposes of deriving more income. I didnt fully realise this might be the case until recently. Fine it's their job to sell records and we all want said records. This list is a great sample population for them to mix and match numbers. Does anybody out there think.......that this might be the case? Or is management simply doing a good job looking after the interests of INXS in broad terms......which may lead to less fans but more record sales? I guess in someways if we support INXS then we are sort of supportive of their management or are the two separate entities? M Talon X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 09:56:14 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:30:58 +1000 From: "Daryl" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Andrew & Yothu Yindi To anyone who's interested,found this in Wednesday's "Sydney Telegraph". After six weeks touring Europe,local band Yothu Yindi flew home last week,coinciding with the release of their latest album "One Blood",and perform at the Garma Festival of Traditional Cultures starting next week in north-east Arnhem land. The festival brings together the largest group of Aboriginal people in the past decade,and will include the opening of a culture centre. As part of the celebrations Mandawuy Yunupingu and crew will open the Music Development Centre,with guests including Crowded House's Neil Finn and Andrew Farriss from INXS(who have teamed up with Yunupingu to write a song for the Olympics). COOL !!!! Daryl X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 10:24:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:21:34 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Copyrights and other things Michael Kick Talon wrote: > Seeing as how INXS management obviously considers this list a great tool, I > was wondering if they were going to get around to paying us for the great > ideas that come from each and everyone of us all the time. Here, here! Where do I send my invoice? ;-) > If they ever do start picking on pictures, and god (Michael will do for now) > help every one if that happens... This leads me to a question I've been wondering about for a few days. I was one of those lucky enough to be given a photo pass during the EW tour. So, I have pictures that my husband took, and (presumably) owns the copyright to. Is there any way that the band could keep photos that we ourselves have taken off the net? I understand that people do have a right to control their image, but as public figures, I also know that they have less control over their image or likeness than a "regular" person would. I can see how the band's management could try to limit release of photos for which they hold the copyright, but could they also try to extend their control to things which they do not, nor ever will, own? Is there a copyright lawyer (or just someone with too much time on their hands ;-) ) out there who could answer this for us? > I just find it annoying that we could be being watched for the purposes of > deriving more income. I didnt fully realise this might be the case until > recently. I'd never thought of this, in this way, before. I knew that we were being watched so to speak, in the past, but I always saw it in a positive light. After all, once we did that Greatest INXS Songs of All Time Poll during the EW tour, some of our favorites ended up being added to the set lists. And then, of course, Tim was a list member for a while. If that's not watching, I don't know what is! BUT, he always did it with respect. The way I understood it, he, and the rest of the guys' "monitoring" was not so much to look out for themselves, but to see what the fans were into, keep in touch with us, and just maintain a nice rapport with their core audience. If Tim were still on the list, I have no doubts he'd still feel this way. Ah, if only we could return to the good old days... Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 10:43:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:34:47 -0500 From: Teresa Velasquez To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Copyrights and other things Nanci Lamb Roider wrote: > This leads me to a question I've been wondering about for a few days. I was > one of those lucky enough to be given a photo pass during the EW tour. So, > I have pictures that my husband took, and (presumably) owns the copyright > to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that any photos taken of the band while using a band-distributed photo pass were 'owned' by the band? Can anybody confirm whether or not this is true? -Teresa X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 11:22:56 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:21:57 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm back (was: The Latest Rumor) <> Hey, come on down, the more the merrier. The view's great down here too (out of the line of fire). Amanda -----Original Message----- From: DTKArk@aol.com [mailto:DTKArk@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm back (was: The Latest Rumor) In a message dated 7/7/99 1:18:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hbeaulieu@ticz.com writes: > t's great to be back! > Love and Peace, > Heidi B. Welcome back, Heidi! Now, if you'all don't mind, I think I'm gunna hide here in this room for a little while. The digital list is about ready to explode again. I could tell something was up when I turned on my computer and it started to tremble. Amanda, do you mind if I hide under that chair, even if there are dusty balls between the legs? Dennis ROFL!!! You flatter me, girl! I'm just a bag lady skulking around looking for some dust balls under the chair legs! Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 11:28:32 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:16:50 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: replies to this and that Hi all! I can't resist throwing my 2 cents in on this MP3 thing.... I was fully expecting it after reading about the site in Europe that had lyrics to hundreds + songs got pulled and threatened with huge fines. Some folks were wondering where this will go from here? Just plan now to remove the lyrics pages soon would be my guess! :^( Guess Big Brother really is watching...he's just 15 years late. Nanci was wondering about photo rights..... I won't pretend to know anything about those legalities, but I can say that after 4 years of being involved in the Girl Scouts of America, we are no longer required to get signed photo releases from our girls. Something about society now being so image driven that we can't really control who takes our picture. (My words not theirs! That phrase is as close as I can get to what they said after a year has passed! :^) ) Moni asked about scanning the photos from "Red".... Oh, how I wish I could! They are so, so wonderful!!! But then again, in light of recent discussion, maybe I don't even want to go there anymore..... Neil commented on Limoncello.... He, he, chest burning for 10 minutes, eh?! What about "head vibrations"? Any of those? LOL Perhaps it's a good thing I didn't attempt to track a shot of that down in London and then get on a tour bus for the day!!! But tell me Neil, does it really smell like dirty old socks?! BTW, I went to a restaurant called "Amalfi" so I was nearly there too! LOL I wish.... Sue, I agree, you're not a dweeb.... One typo in all the time you've posted SOTW is a great track record! As for Move On.... only our guys would put out such an incredibly good song as a B-side!!! Glad I got my copy all ready.... L&P, Heidi B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 11:41:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:29:55 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue One thing we all need to keep in mind on this whole mp3/copyright issue is that this isn't the only place this is happening. I know people who run tribute/info sites for many different bands or personalities and this is happening to all of them. Many try moving the site, but they're usually found within 24-48 hours and shut down again. The entertainment industry is suddenly web-paranoid, and it's something we're all going to have to deal with until some enterprising soul figures out a way around it (and since necessity is always the mother of invention, I'm sure that will happen). Until then, Big Brother Web is watching. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you-- Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 11:45:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:32:44 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? << What happens after now then????? A bit confused, where, when & how can we email buddy????? hahaha>> Hey Ted, I got the banana boat loaded and I'm ready to sail. Anyone else wanna come along? BTW--how long you think it'll take me to get there from here? Amanda -----Original Message----- From: angusted [mailto:angusted@primus.com.au] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 2:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? G'day Dennis > I'm just here to remind everyone that tomorrow (Thursday) It's already thursday arvo down here mate. 4.15pm is the last >day to email me privately What happens after now then????? A bit confused, where, when & how can we email buddy????? hahaha MYSTIFIED AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 12:05:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 8 Jul 99 08:57:26 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Copyrights and other things] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id MAA15246 Teresa Velasquez wrote: > Nanci Lamb Roider wrote: > >> This leads me to a question I've been wondering about for a few days. >> I was one of those lucky enough to be given a photo pass during the EW >> tour. So, I have pictures that my husband took, and (presumably) owns >> the copyright to. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that any photos > taken of the band while using a band-distributed photo pass were 'owned' > by the band? > > Can anybody confirm whether or not this is true? >From my understanding on copyright law, unless Nanci was explicitly told not to take pictures or was told at the time of the concert that INXS had the right to retain any such pictures, they are hers (or rather her husbands as the case may be). The only reason I could find that would allow the band to prevent her from posting those pictures would be if they were used to try and hurt or defame the band's public image. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, but that was the best info I could get through FindLaw and AltaVista. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 12:13:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:56:09 -0000 From: "JERRY CATHY" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS Sadness Hello everyone...WOW...this has been some kind of read lately...I have been very busy on ebay..and I must say Iam happy with my new finds of INXS stuff...but then I return to my favorite place (this list) only to find sadness...Is there anyway someone from the band could put some input into whats going on and what is going to happen...Like WHEN CAN I HEAR THEM PLAY AGAIN...the future of this band is important to me, because its been such a large part of my life for so long, Its bad enough that Michael is gone...but I want the songs to go on and on and on..Is it possible that we might get some positive feed on what coming...I know were all waiting to hear...its obvious were doing what ever it takes just to get a listen of our favorite band....Please somebody give of something... Cathy -xs5 X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 14:55:29 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The End Of ROTO... Hey ~ Good to see you post here. I have to say... I totally agree with you! I find this particularly sad, because the persons who have maintained these INXS sites have gone out of their way to provide the rest of us with great INXS stuff!!! If the facts as we are hearing them are correct... I find this pretty damn sad and wrong!!!!! Patricia --- RStreeting@aol.com wrote: > Nice job out there, "Management"! Clever thinking of you > to alienate the > core group of fans who still care what becomes of INXS. > > Ever heard of the phrase "to shoot oneself in the foot?" > What a sad place > this list, and INXS fandom has become in the past few > days. > > I feel very sad, and a bit sick about this whole recent > turn of events. Fans > who worked hard out of genuine love and the desire to > keep this wonderful > band alive have been made to feel like criminals. > > To those who had a hand in this, shame on you. > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 15:41:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:38:15 GMT From: doug cruz To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 .... issue wow, that's a good point to bring up! i'm assuming that the band knows more or less what's going on, since it IS their management that's doing this. i'd think that they go together in one big package, and that one can't be there w/out the other. it has been done. just look at 'the artist' and ani difranco (i LOVE that women's music!). they're both more or less, their own managers. neither of them go through the loops that other bands go through to put out an album, because they both own their own record companies (npg records, and rightus babe records)..blah ze' blah... then there's the black crowes who actually want fans to bootleg their shows and concerts. i remember watching mtv years ago, and hearing about that...now there's another great show to see! anyway, yea, i'd say that management and band go together. doug "why be sad when you can be unstable" the cranberries I guess in someways >if we support INXS then we are sort of supportive of their management or >are the >two separate entities? > >M Talon > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 17:26:54 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:22:25 EDT From: Erinxs@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE MP3 ARGUMENT: You really could have all spared us your public arguments and debates. Thank you for wasting my time. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 17:40:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:37:14 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where are we. In a message dated 7/7/99 9:34:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marsland@deakin.edu.au writes: > and considering there is very few > people from Australia on this list your not likely to hear much news (I know > it was only two or three people out of 300 odd Matthew, I think you may be pleasantly surprised! Details soon! Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 17:45:16 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "s. schulte" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: MP3 loss-INXS not to blame!!! The loss of Davy's site and the other Mp3 from our fav band is sad but people, we are not being singled out!!! I am really amazed that with all the people having ties with the music industry that post after post is blaming the band and their management. It just is not so!!! For months the big record labels have been working out a deal to bring (you guessed it)MP3 technology under their control and scheming to sell much more music to those of us on-line. They want and intend to be the only source of music from all artists on the web. They are ALL scouring the web looking for this with help from law inforcement authorities. This has been on various CNN broadcasts and on various business publications and in newspapers. We are not being singled out. I hate the loss of freedom that we are experiencing.I do not know the band or anyone in their management. Other band lists are discussing the same loss of Mp3 sites as we are. The band has to have a lable. They will have to play by the rules!! We don't have to like it. We can let them know that we are PO'd! Write your politicians!!!! Clinton/Gore want to tax everything bought on the net from all countries. They also floated a law to charge long distance for all time on-line. They have lots of cronies in other countries (esp. the G7)who want the same thing. This crackdown is for the benefit of the record companies...they give $$$to the politicians. Write the record lables!! Write Rolling Stone,Spin etc.!!! Just do not blame this on INXS, they are not the bad guys here. If you would like to discuss what I've said write the list. If you hate it and want to flame write me privately at U2INXS@yahoo.com yours INXSively Shivaun X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 18:34:44 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Kemmish To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 loss-INXS not to blame!!! Shivaun wrote: >I am really amazed that with all the people >having ties with the music industry that post after >post is blaming the band and their management. It just >is not so!!! >The band has to have a lable. They will have to play >by the rules!! But the thing is--INXS does have a choice! Im tryin to remember who it was that wrote in earlier to point out the people who do let MP3s stay on fansites, and theyre some pretty prominent people. I cant remember the who list, but Im thinkin Savage Garden, Elvis Costello, and Catherine Wheel all let them stay. These guys all have labels too and you dont see them losin their contracts because of this stuff! The way I see it, if the band (or management) wanted to let us have this stuff, they could. Theyd have to authorize it, but how hard is that? Or, if they feel like they cant officially endorse these things, all they have to do is turn their heads. I mean the Web is a big place--how can 5 guys be expected to keep track of everything thats out there? (Unless they have people to report back to them, but thats another issue all together...) In the words of Chuck D, another MP3 suppoerter--FIGHT THE POWER!!! Kent PS To that person who wrote in and said that wed wasted their life with this conversation, dont you know where your delete key is? X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 20:23:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 00:17:32 GMT From: "Ashlynne Fountain" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [MP3 issue] i have to say i found the whole discussion very interesting. i didn't know that much about mp3. i learned a lot. i would like to thank everyone who added interesting tidbits about mp3. i don't feel you wasted my time. you sparked my interest. ashlynne >From: Erinxs@aol.com >ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE MP3 ARGUMENT: > >You really could have all spared us your public arguments and debates. >Thank >you for wasting my time. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 20:29:40 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:55:45 +0930 From: "Steve & Kerry Bergh" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 loss-INXS not to blame!!! Kent - it will depend on the contract/s - Artists do sometimes have a say in the initial stages of contract (however depends on the act how long they've been around etc),parameters being management a sympathetic label as well as many other variants such as distribution contracts etc etc etc - a contract can generally be amended to through the normal channels (contracts can be split up as to boundardies international and intra situ etc etc- but it is quite a lengthy process as you can imagine and again it has to be a totally negotiated (with all parties) business win-win decision - especially in the eyes of the label! ....Hope this helps We are certainly now living in very ambiguous times!!!!!!!! Anyway - Im very much looking forward to their new releases and to Mike's solo coming out in September! Cheers! Kerry B X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 8 21:19:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:02:18 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 loss-INXS not to blame!!! Shivaun, Hooray for you!!!! You obviously know your politics and love your liberty! I loved reading your email. It just made me want to cheer and jump up and grab my little Statue of Liberty that has a button hung around her neck saying, "if it weren't for taxes, I'd never get f****d!" Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 08:37:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:53:26 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? G'day Amanda >I got the banana boat loaded and I'm ready to sail. Anyone else wanna come >along? >BTW--how long you think it'll take me to get there from here? >Amanda Well, tiss only a hop. hop.......skip, skip..........jump, jump away. But when it comes to sail'n in a 'crazy' boat sounds like a pulpy, long curved, slimmy, sticky idea to me!! Spose, if ya's end up without a paddle ya could use the skins anyway. WHATYANEED AngusteD X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 09:38:02 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:31:46 EDT From: "Lisa Navarro" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Journals g'morning, everyone! I don't know if any of you remember hearing about this sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, but, I have to ask: This is regarding Kirk's journals chronicling INXS's history. I heard that they got stolen some years back. Any word on whether or not they've been found? If any of you remember a piece on the band in Rolling Stone called "New Sensation", written in 1988, it was mentioned that Kirk wanted to publish his journals some time in the future. (I wonder if this has anything to do with some of the unauthorized stuff written about INXS in the last--what is it?--couple of years. Lisa X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 09:46:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Courtney Chase To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? ok guys... private please... i mean, i don't even UNDERSTAND this LOL courtney --- angusted wrote: > G'day Amanda > > >I got the banana boat loaded and I'm ready to sail. > Anyone else wanna come > >along? > >BTW--how long you think it'll take me to get there > from here? > >Amanda > Well, tiss only a hop. > hop.......skip, > skip..........jump, jump away. But when it comes to > sail'n in a 'crazy' boat > sounds like a pulpy, long curved, slimmy, sticky > idea to me!! > Spose, if ya's end up without a paddle ya > could use the skins > anyway. > > WHATYANEED > AngusteD > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 11:18:16 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:20:52 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Arguing & Mp3's Issue I must say that I was most disgusted in the way that people's views about this topic were turned into torrid flaming sessions. I was most upset when this DAVY creature chose to be rude to my posts about what I thought about MP3's & why I think that the band & management has the right to say NO no matter what your frame of mind & intentions you may have on the topic! (The bloke even suggested what I SHOULd & SHOULD'T say ion the list-what a hide.) You do know that INXS has to have protocols to protect their income & reputation etc! I don't see the point in once again expressing why I choose not to support this form of technology as I know the likely characters & argumentative types who will tap on my back yet again & start another row! Perhaps another good thing would be to make this list a digest so YOU CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND the conversations going on!! I have sooo many INXS e-mails on my subject line on my mail server it's very difficult to know who said what to who & when! Just my 2 Bobs worth.... PS-What a silly statement that someone made out no INXS band members or management being on the? 'HELLO'- you just use a pseudonym-how hard is that???? X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 16:43:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:40:20 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: A couple of questions........ I was watching the Behind The Music special on Weird Al Yankovic the other day..... I know, I have way too much time on my hands..... but anyway, I think I noticed a quick shot of Weird Al doing a parody of the cue-card sequence in "Mediate". It only flashed for a second, so I'm not sure if he was doing a parody of INXS or Bob Dylan, but I would suspect that it would be our guys due to the fact that he always stayed pretty current with his parodies. Does anyone know if there really is a Weird Al parody on video of "Mediate" and does that also include "Need You Tonight"? The only time I've seen INXS parodied is on a CD I have from a local radio show, in which they made light of Richard Gere's problem with a gerbil, to the tune of "Do The Richard Gere (Bitter Tears)". Also, I noticed that some of you veterans mention from time to time on how Tim was a member of this list a while back. Since I joined around October of l997, I missed all the excitement. Can someone enlighten me and the other relative newbies on just how the environment was around here when he was on the list. All I can picture is 200 pieces of list mail a day, all directed at Tim, with no other threads existing. His personal mailbox must have flooded out real fast, too, and I can't imagine he could last too long being overwhelmed so much. Was this the case? Also, Nanci, you stated that there is no possible way that a member of the band could be on the list right now. How do you know for sure? Couldn't I or anyone else be a band member in disguise without tipping it off to anyone? Or is there something technical that would make you somehow aware of this? In a short while, I'll post the results of the "Where Are We" survey. Thanks again to everyone. I'll give you all time to hop on your rafts and start heading over to Angus Ted's place. He's been expecting us! Take care, Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 9 17:42:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:39:58 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: A couple of questions........ Dennis, DTKArk@aol.com, wrote: > Nanci, you stated that there is no possible way that a member of the band > could be on the list right now. How do you know for sure? Couldn't I or > anyone else be a band member in disguise without tipping it off to anyone? Or > is there something technical that would make you somehow aware of this? I have my ways of knowing! ;-) No really, I don't think I ever said there was "no possible way" that a band member was on the list right now. If I ever gave the impression that there was "no possible way," I apologize, as that was not my intent. I believe I may have said that none of them are on the list right now, and, to the best of my knowledge, none of them are, but of course, as you've pointed out, nothing could stop them from setting up some account that just doesn't feature their name anywhere on it. (I honestly don't even recall commenting on this at all recently, but that's neither here nor there.) So far as I know, the band's online interaction with the fans (as of this writing) is mainly limited to dropping into Neil's chat room and things like that. Nanci We thought we had all the answers; it was the questions we had wrong. --Bono X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 15:57:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:56:41 GMT From: "Anthony Watt" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Q Magazine Article Hi, I am usually what you might call a silent list member as most of the time I just read the mail. However an article in Q kinda got up my nose. The latest edition features the greatest 100 stars of the 20th Century. MH does not feature in the top 100, however the magazine also had a section called Stars In Their Minds which did have MH in. Over a picture of him they have the caption 'Crap Jim Morrison!'. Please find below the rest of the article and comment as you see fit. MICHEAL HUTCHENCE So Good They Replaced Him With Terence Trent D'Arby May he rest in peace naturally, but the let's face it, the much touted "star quality" of the doomed INXS singer was always relative: arise the lithest, slinkiest member of INXS(akin to being the best looking member of the Tory shadow cabinet), and arguably the most handsome leonine bloke in Australia (outside of Neighbours Stefan Dennis). He lived the life - celeb girlfriends, "my drug hell", sparring with paparrazzi and wore the trousers (you never know when you're going to need a belt), but it was clear that underneath the trappings, Hutchence was still Sydney's Nick Lowe at heart. Also in the magazine MH appears in an article entitled when rock stars attack. That's all for now Tony X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 16:41:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Gerard To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Q Magazine Article --- Anthony Watt wrote: > The latest edition features the greatest 100 stars of the 20th Century. MH does not feature in the top 100, however the magazine also had a section called Stars In Their Minds which did have MH in. Over a picture of him they have the caption 'Crap Jim Morrison!' > Typical Q. Sometimes they get a little too spiteful in their attempts to sound witty. After Michael's death, they were gushing over INXS, and I always thought they were rather respectful to the band, especially compared to the U.S. press. But the tide has turned, as it seems to for every band save a chosen few (Manic Street Preachers, Oasis, R.E.M., et al). Sad. Karen karenduran@yahoo.com Now playing: U2 "Achtung Baby" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 17:45:04 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:21:54 +0100 From: "The JunKster" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On INXS have done some great guitar solos down the years, but one of my favourite solos is from this song, right at the end the last minute or so when the guitar solo starts and the chorus is song over it, that is one of the most magical creative moments of INXS in my opinion, its just a shame that no one other than die hard INXS fans have heard this song. the guitar solo goes on for the whole of the final minute of the song and its just beautiful. the whole song is awesome, i remeber when Leah dished out those bsides tapes, this was the song which stuck out and i listened to it over and over. it is far better than a lot of INXS album tracks. whats the reason for it not being on kick? was it not recorded in time for the album? i cant see why a song like this would be deliberately left off. it is better than 30% of the kick album. and the way the song starts i love that also, its just such a perfect song!!!! Im just a JunKy...why dont you junkie when the heat is on? www.JunXS.freeserve.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Dagette Dillon To: Multiple recipients of Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 2:16 AM Subject: INXS: Re: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On >hi all >i'm just replying to the song of the week:MOVE ON > >i absolutely love this song!!!It has alot of meaning for me personally >actually it explains alot in my life LOL i think it's one of INXS'S best. > > >>From: Sue >>Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com >>To: Multiple recipients of >>Subject: INXS: I'm a dweeb; SOTW#105 - Move On >>Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:37:44 >> >>at 06:28 PM 7/4/99, Sue said: >> >In responding to the INXS Song of Week you can give your opinions on the >> >lyrics and music of the song, its strong or weak points, and/or any >> >special meaning the song has had at one time, or still holds for you. >> > >> >INXS SONG OF THE WEEK #105 - Move One >> ^^^^^^^^ >> >>Sorry folks that's Move On >> >> X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 18:46:14 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:44:18 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Welcome To Wherever We Are Here's the final scoresheet on where we on this list are from. While it's not 100% participation, it's still a good representation of where the core of INXS fans may be. Thanks again to everyone who participated. I've had a great time meeting with you all individually. Dennis Please note that some of the numbers do not appear to add up (for example, a state may show 5 members, but only 3 individual cities are listed), but that is only due to the fact that some of us were more specific on their locations than others. I've triple checked everything, and it all works out. OK, here it is......... INXS LIST: WELCOME TO WHEREVER WE ARE, JULY 1999 AFRICA: 0 ANTARCTICA: 0 ASIA: 0 AUSTRALIA: 20 Australia: 19 -New South Wales 7 (Liverpool, Newcastle 2, Sydney 4). -Queensland 3 (Brisbane 3). -South Australia 3 (Adelaide 3). -Victoria 4 (Geelong 1, Melbourne 3). -Western Australia 2 (Perth 2). New Zealand: 1 (Christchurch). EUROPE: 23 England: 7 (Birmingham To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC: USA WOMEN ARE WORLD CUP SOCCER CHAMPIONS!!! :-) CONGRATULATIONS TO THE USA WOMENS' WORLD CUP SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM!!!!!!!!! You did a wonderful job of representing the USA!!! Patricia :-) === * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * MICHAEL KELLAND FRANK HUTCHENCE "Good night, sweet prince, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" ~~~ Hamlet X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 20:13:16 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:11:03 EDT From: Inxsible2@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are That's really cool! I didn't realize how far we were spread out! LOL! By the way....who lives in Pennsauken, NJ? I live in VA now, but I'm originally from Pennsauken. Just wondering..:) Chris M. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 20:47:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 10 Jul 99 17:47:13 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Lovegrove book impounded? X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id UAA30195 Forgive me if I missed something already posted to the list but... I was reading alt.music.inxs this afternoon and somebody attempting to sell a couple of magazines made the following statement: "These are two copies of Night And Day magazine (April 11 and 18, 1999) which carry extracts from a book by Vincent Lovegrove about Michael Hutchence. Since their publication, the book has been impounded and there is an injunction against its distribution." Now, I know that a lot of times people trying to sell something will exaggerate the truth to, umm, enhance the appeal of their product. I also know through the grapevine that there was some disagrement between the band and Mr. Lovegrove regarding the book such that the band wasn't happy with it. I know some actions were taken by the band's management against the book but I never heard anything about an injunction. What gives? Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 10 22:42:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:31:20 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC: So. Cal recommendations? Now that Dennis has been kind enough to tabulate all these answers for us (thanks Dennis!!!), I have a question for you in So. Cal. I'm going to be there in a few weeks (Simi Valley, more specifically--who's there???), and have been meaning to ask if someone could point me to some cool shops for imports and other hard to find items? Thanks in advance! Nanci > -California 13 (Aliso Viejo, Davis, Glendale, Los Angeles 3, > Manhattan Beach, Modesto, San Bernardino, > San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Simi Valley). X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 00:18:32 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:59:29 EDT From: SOyer1651@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: photos from show: nanci In a message dated 7/8/99 10:36:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com writes: << This leads me to a question I've been wondering about for a few days. I was one of those lucky enough to be given a photo pass during the EW tour. So, I have pictures that my husband took, and (presumably) owns the copyright to. Is there any way that the band could keep photos that we ourselves have taken off the net? >> Nanci--saw your post. None of us who got backstage passes have the copyright on the photos we took. We all got the passes with the understanding that the photos are protected under copyright laws and actually belong to the band. They hold the copyright on your pictures...not you. They were just allowing us, the ardent fans, to take the pictures for them. Hence the reason Mary had problems collecting photos from the people who went to the shows. She reminded me about the ownership/ copyright info when she requested additional photos from me. People may want to direct their questions about photos from the last tour to Mary Wood as she seems to be up on a lot of this. Hope this helps. Susan X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 14:49:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:47:20 ADT From: "Sarah Drodge" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Hutch's name in Lovegrove book Forgive me if this has been brought up before..... I'm reading the Lovegrove book now, and I noticed that in the 1st chapter, he refers to Hutch as "Michael Kelland John Hutchence" but I've always thought his 3rd name was Frank! That's all I've ever seen anywhere, but he does say that the "John" comes from Pat's brother who was killed in a hunting accident... so what it is? Sarah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 15:24:24 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:26:38 PDT From: "no one" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: The End Of ROTO... >Matthew asked us to forward questions... okay. Here's mine: > >When does it end? Neil had dedicated more time and effort and love into >this band >than any other person. So what is his thank you? Irene? > >Staz worked so hard to help bring INXS fans together to remember MIchael >and help >heal our sadness. Where is hers? Sherry B carful Mattie Mat might not give us the INXS news anymore. BooooHooooo. JS X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 16:06:46 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:04:22 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: It ain't easy Hi everyone! Well, what about some music talk (which is very rare lately :( ) Does anyone know who is doing lead vocals on the b-side "It ain't easy"? Neil once mentioned it is Andrew, but I believe at most of the parts it's Michael... anyone? Markus ---------- "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) <<--------- uh, still using that name in my e-mails ;-O LOL! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 17:28:38 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:11:08 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are G'day Dennis Thanks mate for this amaze'n piece of work ya've done, it's very interest'n. >While it's not 100% participation, So, i put some of the snags away then, what %age????? haha >INXS LIST: WELCOME TO WHEREVER WE ARE, JULY 1999 >>AUSTRALIA: 20 Somethin' fishy here mate, 'i can't put my finger on it', is it a spell'n error or has someone 'disappeared'? A massive sudden drop from 20 way down ta 19! >Australia: 19 >-New South Wales 7 (Liverpool, Newcastle 2, Sydney 4). Out of curiosity, 'cold steel rails in front of me', where's the fellow Novacastrian???? Has the NT'ian(state) moved, or has ya banana boat been launched, they'd be float'n somewhere????? :-):-) GOODTIME AngusteD ps few Scream'n Jet lines used X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 17:41:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 03:39:48 -0700 From: Vicki Rogers To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS Management can suck my A**! I am really getting sick and tired of hearing web sites recently shut down because of "INXS MANAGEMENT", WHATEVER!!!. Whoever you are and whatever you are doing, it really sucks and you have no positive and beneficial intentions. The management that has occurred outside INXS and Michael Hutchence, has been terrible. Face it, whatever you or your "company" has done has been with the intention to shutdown the communication and bond between it's members and the band and that has been bullshit. If you all in the list are willing to accept these threats and crap, so be it, but I am tired of people acting like they have power and really in the end have nothing at all. I say, keep your web pages up and running and see what they can do even though they threaten you. Remember what you have worked hard for, the love of Michael and the band INXS. If they have real power, than maybe they can show credibility and to be hard workers in the favor of INXS, otherwise fuck these little people who threaten and say they have power... REMEMBER INXS and what we all fell in Love with... Supavickson Vicki (and not afraid to speak her mind ) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 18:18:17 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:58:48 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Where Are We? >ok guys... private please... i mean, i don't even UNDERSTAND this LOL G'day >courtney I tried twice last night send'n ya a 'non-mechanical' explaination e bout the excite'n dried out yellow skin raft developments......... unsuccessfully!! Both times, 'Nondeliverable mail' returned.... SIXKNOTS AngusTed X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 19:05:41 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:08:21 +0100 From: "The JunKster" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are so how long has Saudi Arabia been in Europe? whoever lives there please contact me!!! Im just a JunKy...why dont you junkie when the heat is on? www.JunXS.freeserve.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Date: Saturday, July 10, 1999 11:48 PM Subject: INXS: Welcome To Wherever We Are >Here's the final scoresheet on where we on this list are from. While it's >not 100% participation, it's still a good representation of where the core of >INXS fans may be. Thanks again to everyone who participated. I've had a >great time meeting with you all individually. > >Dennis > >Please note that some of the numbers do not appear to add up (for example, a >state may show 5 members, but only 3 individual cities are listed), but that >is only due to the fact that some of us were more specific on their locations >than others. I've triple checked everything, and it all works out. OK, here >it is......... > >INXS LIST: WELCOME TO WHEREVER WE ARE, JULY 1999 > >AFRICA: 0 > >ANTARCTICA: 0 > >ASIA: 0 > >AUSTRALIA: 20 >Australia: 19 >-New South Wales 7 (Liverpool, Newcastle 2, Sydney 4). >-Queensland 3 (Brisbane 3). >-South Australia 3 (Adelaide 3). >-Victoria 4 (Geelong 1, Melbourne 3). >-Western Australia 2 (Perth 2). >New Zealand: 1 (Christchurch). > >EUROPE: 23 >England: 7 (Birmingham Durham London, Surrey, YorkshireFrance: 2 (Paris, Valbonne). >Germany: 2 (Frankfurt, Nordrhein-Westfalen Luxembourg: 1. >Portugal: 1 (Ermesinde). >Saudi Arabia: 2 (Riyadh 2). >Scotland: 3 (Dundee, Stirling, Strathclyde Slovenia: 1 (Maribor). >Switzerland: 2 (Neuenhof 2). >The Netherlands: 2 (Alkmaar, Hillegom). > >NORTH AMERICA: 81 >Canada: 11 >-Manitoba 3 (Winnipeg 3) >-New Brunswick 1 >-Nova Scotia 1 (Sydney) >-Ontario 5 (London, Niagara Falls, Toronto 2). >-Quebec 1 (Malartic). >Mexico: 1 (Mexico City). >United States: 69 >-California 13 (Aliso Viejo, Davis, Glendale, Los Angeles 3, > Manhattan Beach, Modesto, San Bernardino, > San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Simi Valley). >-Colorado 1. >-Connecticut 1. >-Florida 7 (Leesburg, New Port Richey, Niceville, > Pembroke Pines 2, Tallahassee, Tampa). >-Georgia 1 (Clarkeville). >-Illinois 2 (Chicago 2). >-Indiana 1 (Terre Haute). >-Louisiana 1. >-Maryland 3 (Annapolis, Silver Spring, Stevensville). >-Massachusetts 1. >-Michigan 1 (Dearborn). >-Minnesota 3 (Duluth, Mankato, Minneapolis). >-Missouri 1 (St. Louis). >-New Hampshire 2 (Pembroke 1). >-New Jersey 7 (Mercer County, Montville, Pennsauken, > Southern New Jersey). >-New York 3 (New York City 2 Long Island < Locust Valley 1). >-North Carolina 3 (Chapel Hill, Raleigh 2). >-Ohio 1 (Cleveland). >-Oregon 5 (Bend, Portland 3). >-Pennsylvania 1 (Pittsburgh). >-Tennesse 1 (Knoxville). >-Texas 6 (Corpus Christi, Dallas 3, San Antonio 2). >-Virginia 1 (Glen Allen). >-Washington 1 (Vancouver). >-Wisconsin 1 (Neenah). > >SOUTH AMERICA: 4 >Brazil: 2 (Ribeirao Pires SP, Rio de Janeiro). >Chile: 1 (Valparaiso). >Columbia: 1 (Bogota). > >Have a great weekend! >Dennis > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 19:19:42 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 05:15:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Rawding To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: "Loved One" the movie Hey everyone, I was just at an Internet movie data base, and they had a movie listing for a film titled "The Loved One". Has anyone heard anything about this film and is it related to the band The Loved Ones or to INXS in any way? Here was the description I came across: The Loved One Film version of Evelyn Waugh's black comic story of the funeral business in 1950's Los Angeles. Jay X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 20:05:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 11 Jul 99 17:03:22 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [It ain't easy] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id UAA09379 "Markus Pfeffer" wrote: > Does anyone know who is doing lead vocals on the b-side "It ain't easy"? > Neil once mentioned it is Andrew, but I believe at most of the parts > it's Michael... anyone? Well, the song is credited as being written and produced by Andrew. More often that not, if a B-side is written and produced by an individual band member, they usually do the singing (i.e. Kirk doing Light the Planet and Gary doing Sweet as Sin). So my initial reaction would be to say it is Andrew. However, if you liten to Soothe Me which is definitely sung by Andrew it seems like he has a slightly higher pitched voice than Michael does and in the voice for It Ain't Easy. I think I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 20:21:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:16:26 -0400 From: "Nanci Lamb Roider" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: "Loved One" the movie Jay Rawding, jrawding@yahoo.com, wrote: > Hey everyone, I was just at an Internet movie data base, and they had a > movie listing for a film titled "The Loved One". Has anyone heard > anything about this film and is it related to the band The Loved Ones > or to INXS in any way? > The Loved One > Film version of Evelyn Waugh's black comic story of the funeral > business in 1950's Los Angeles. No, the movie has absolutely nothing to do with the band of the same name or INXS. Evelyn Waugh (1903-1966) was the author of such masterpieces as Brideshead Revisited, Decline and Fall, and A Handful of Dust. There's absolutely no INXS content in his work (obviously), but these are some of the most amazing novels you could ever hope to read (imho, of course). Nanci X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 20:36:58 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:33:05 EDT From: JonsDrmstx@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS items on Ebay: shirts, tour books, promo stuff Hi Everyone, me again.... I put some more INXS items up for bid in EBAY. My EBAY name is INXSARY in case this link doesn't work: http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user id=inxsary&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 These are all 3 DAY AUCTIONS so have a look soon! Among the items up for bid are: X Promotional Blocks, Listen Like Thieves Australian Tour Book w/poster, Jon Farriss Striped Kick Shirt..... Thanks! -Karen X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 20:47:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:42:41 -0000 From: "JERRY CATHY" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Go At It You go Vicki...Iam not sure your words are the ones I would use but they convey the feelings...when I first came to the list I was so excited and full of it...and now I feel sadness and undue pressure ..I find myself looking both ways and just wanting the thing that gives me what the band did..peace/ love and happiness..(and other things)..anyway can we get back to it."..the conversations that makes me want to turn on and read." ..Whats the problem anyway...I think someone has lost there direction ...Its time to focus and get to it...make this thing work..and it takes all of us to make it happen...I want this band to go on and its sad that someone wants to take power and cause such ********.....I would like to hear whats to come ...please excite me and bring back that INXS that we all love and want to know again... cathy - xs5 X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 11 21:33:06 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:28:49 EDT From: HYBRID1616@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS Management You cannot get mad at INXS managment for what is happening ...INXS is not the only band which's fan sites get shut down for having mp3s and such... it happens to every band.. i know of atleast 30 bands myself...that fact is...the music industry is starting to loose money over the new mp3 format and now with rio player gettin g more and more popular people who wouldnt have gotten mp3s simply because its harder to take them with you are now saying " hey we can take em !!" .. people are loosing money and jobs ... and true its not INXS themselves.. but the music industry itself is a lot more than just the artists.. its a buracracy like anything else ..the same stuff happens in the literary world because of the internet .. people are reading the whole book over a computer without having to pay a dime .. so the author suffers .. publisher suffers... distributor...and store.. its a chain of events .. the internet is changing our lives just like TV did... and TV had its problems too...every new technology kills an old one... the death of tapes is looming near and cds will be a fast follower .. they'll be collectors items just like vinyl.. and so .. we cannot blame INXS managment for trying to save they're pwn piece of the pile.. we would all do the same given the situation.. as every band's management is... i think telling them to suck your a** is a little ahrsh by the way .. considering without management how would we as consumers get anything INXS at all... Lynn X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 08:40:40 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:21:34 PDT From: "Steve Elliott" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: hybrid1616 comments Finally, we have someone submitting a reasoned and balanced view of the MP3 issue! Lynn's comments are a refreshing change from the trash talk that has come across this list. However, hybrid1616 needs to locate the CAPS key on her keyboard. It's over on the left, and it's used at the beginning of sentences. A spellchecker would be good, too. We've got only one English language; let's protect it. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 08:43:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 03:12:13 PDT From: "Hans Berchtold" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Check out the Hutch & INXS Tribute ! Hello INXS Fans, here is the link for one of the best tribute websites, which is dedicated to Michael Hutchence & INXS http://home.az-online.net/~superstarstribute/index.htm Let me please know, what do you think from my website ? It is complete updated in new design. Best wishes Hans X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 08:50:06 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:23:40 +1000 From: To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: "Loved One" the movie There was also an Australian film released this year titled 'Freedom Deep'. Nothing to do with INXS from what I understand. - Vince -----Original Message----- From: Jay Rawding To: Multiple recipients of Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 9:23 Subject: INXS: "Loved One" the movie >Hey everyone, I was just at an Internet movie data base, and they had a >movie listing for a film titled "The Loved One". Has anyone heard >anything about this film and is it related to the band The Loved Ones >or to INXS in any way? >Here was the description I came across: > >The Loved One > Film version of Evelyn Waugh's black comic story of the funeral >business in 1950's Los Angeles. > > >Jay X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 09:07:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:49:33 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are << Has the NT'ian(state) moved, or has ya banana boat been launched, they'd be float'n somewhere????? :-):-)>> Hey Ted! The banana boat is afloat! Should be there sometime around Christmas, after we pick everyone up! It's getting mighty damn crowded in here, too! (anyone know how to sail to Manitoba?) Amanda -----Original Message----- From: angusted [mailto:angusted@primus.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 8:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are G'day Dennis Thanks mate for this amaze'n piece of work ya've done, it's very interest'n. >While it's not 100% participation, So, i put some of the snags away then, what %age????? haha >INXS LIST: WELCOME TO WHEREVER WE ARE, JULY 1999 >>AUSTRALIA: 20 Somethin' fishy here mate, 'i can't put my finger on it', is it a spell'n error or has someone 'disappeared'? A massive sudden drop from 20 way down ta 19! >Australia: 19 >-New South Wales 7 (Liverpool, Newcastle 2, Sydney 4). Out of curiosity, 'cold steel rails in front of me', where's the fellow Novacastrian???? Has the NT'ian(state) moved, or has ya banana boat been launched, they'd be float'n somewhere????? :-):-) GOODTIME AngusteD ps few Scream'n Jet lines used X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 09:09:24 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:31:23 +0100 From: "Marie-B. Glaize" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: It ain't easy It sounded obviously like Michael for me. Maybe Andrew's doing some also. I have to listen carefully. Marie-B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 11:16:37 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:06:53 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are ><< Has the NT'ian(state) moved, or has ya banana boat been >launched, they'd be float'n somewhere????? :-):-)>> > >Hey Ted! >The banana boat is afloat! Should be there sometime around Christmas, after >we pick everyone up! It's getting mighty damn crowded in here, too! >(anyone know how to sail to Manitoba?) G'day Amanda This is get'n a bit 'fishy' here, any connection to them Chinese 'boat people' that have been busted over the last few mths??? AngusteD X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 11:59:28 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:48:56 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are <. Not in this boat, but then, you never know ... Hey, Dennis, do we have any Chinese people on the manifest--er, list? (get out from under that chair and check your database). Amanda -----Original Message----- From: angusted [mailto:angusted@primus.com.au] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are ><< Has the NT'ian(state) moved, or has ya banana boat been >launched, they'd be float'n somewhere????? :-):-)>> > >Hey Ted! >The banana boat is afloat! Should be there sometime around Christmas, after >we pick everyone up! It's getting mighty damn crowded in here, too! >(anyone know how to sail to Manitoba?) G'day Amanda This is get'n a bit 'fishy' here, any connection to them Chinese 'boat people' that have been busted over the last few mths??? AngusteD X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 12:22:26 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:14:22 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Check out the Hutch & INXS Tribute ! On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:55:10 PDT, Hans Berchtold wrote: What a great web site and what great pictures of Michael and the band...i give your web site a A+!! Heidi > Hello INXS Fans, > > here is the link for one of the best tribute websites, which is dedicated to > Michael Hutchence & INXS > > http://home.az-online.net/~superstarstribute/index.htm > > Let me please know, what do you think from my website ? It is complete > updated in new design. > > Best wishes > Hans > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 14:38:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Check out the Hutch & INXS Tribute ! (((((((( VERRRRRRRYYYYY NICE )))))))) I am really impressed. And pictures I have personally never seen before!!! Very well done!!! Patricia --- "Heidi J." wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:55:10 PDT, Hans Berchtold wrote: > > What a great web site and what great pictures of Michael > and the band...i > give your web site a A+!! > > > Heidi > > > > > Hello INXS Fans, > > > > here is the link for one of the best tribute websites, > which is dedicated > to > > Michael Hutchence & INXS > > > > http://home.az-online.net/~superstarstribute/index.htm > > > > Let me please know, what do you think from my website ? > It is complete > > updated in new design. > > > > Best wishes > > Hans > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 16:33:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:29:24 GMT From: "doug cruz" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: the Hutch & INXS Tribute ! first of all, why did hans have the urge to send us the same damn letter 100's of times?? well, whatever. was anyone else a bit shocked when they clicked on the web address, just to find a bunch of women flashing you when the page downloaded? just a warning...to me, it was a bit tasteless, but when you actually clicked on the MH tribute page, it was OK. get rid of the woman flashing thing though...if i wanted to look at porn, i wouldn't expect it at a music tribute site. doug > >Hello INXS Fans, > >here is the link for one of the best tribute websites, which is dedicated >to >Michael Hutchence & INXS > >http://home.az-online.net/~superstarstribute/index.htm > >Let me please know, what do you think from my website ? It is complete >updated in new design. > >Best wishes >Hans X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 18:54:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:52:46 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are In a message dated 7/12/99 12:01:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Amanda.Church@reflectone.com writes: > Hey, Dennis, do we have any > Chinese people on the manifest--er, list? (get out from under that chair > and check your database). > > Amanda ok, i'll come on out, now. the aroma under there was very addictive... anyway, no, there are no chinese people, as far as I know. there are a couple of nice people from saudi arabia (whom I mistakenly placed in europe, when everyone knows that saudi arabia is in atlantis). as for the missing aussie......i thought something looked a little peculiar out there on the barbie, angus ted! (i think i'm going to be sick!). actually, the 20th member is from your intracontinental neighbor, new zealand. dennis <<<<<<<<Australia: 19 >-New South Wales 7 (Liverpool, Newcastle 2, Sydney 4).>>>>>>>> X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 20:06:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:54:02 -0700 From: Vicki Rogers To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: My response Perhaps hybrid's comments were a bit more "PC", but quite frankly I am tired of seeing everyone so proper about this situation, and letting this "management" term intimidate them to take down their sites. I came off very brash, but I am speaking from the heart. The management in reality in my opinion, has done many things to be detrimental to the band by sabotaging projects, i.e the "Behind the Music" on VH-1, and performances that were to be tribute concerts in Australia, and all the interviews that were supposed to be aired. These things never happened. The management set these things up, only to have them shot down and we the fans get nothing. Profiting by censoring someone's hard work and the fan's haven for information is wrong, anyway you cut it. If the management wants to put good time to their efforts, put it into projects like the one's listed. Shutting down information only makes matters worse. Maybe before you critique my comments "as trash talk", you can research more into the matter of why the comments were written in the first place. Thanks for letting me vent, Vicki supavickson@earthlink.net At 11:21 PM 7/11/99 PDT, you wrote: >Finally, we have someone submitting a reasoned and balanced view of the MP3 >issue! Lynn's comments are a refreshing change from the trash talk that has >come across this list. > >However, hybrid1616 needs to locate the CAPS key on her keyboard. It's over >on the left, and it's used at the beginning of sentences. A spellchecker >would be good, too. We've got only one English language; let's protect it X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 21:05:18 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:56:45 -0400 From: "Tony D." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Hans' Hutch tribute site........... Hans------------ Your tribute site is pretty interestin'!!!!! A little too much 'flash' though (I have to agree with Doug on that one!) My only comment on the site is the use of the following sentence: <. His band INXS was really one of the best live bands worldwide. > The part about "His band" might be reworded a bit............I hope you know what I mean...........don't want to pour any salt on anyones wounds!!! My 2 cents worth..............Tony D. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 21:30:42 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:26:25 EDT From: INXSPAL@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Check out the Hutch & INXS Tribute ! Just thought I'd let you know E! True Hollywood Story's is doing a show on Michael!!! Not sure when it will be on!! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 21:43:54 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:15:39 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My response Excuse me but would someone mind telling me what all this stuff about hybrid1616 is all about? I have a right to know since I'm on this list. Again it would be better off as a digest. Vicki Rogers wrote: > > Perhaps hybrid's comments were a bit more "PC", but quite frankly I am > tired of seeing everyone so proper about this situation, and letting this > "management" term intimidate them to take down their sites. I came off very > brash, but I am speaking from the heart. The management in reality in my > opinion, has done many things to be detrimental to the band by sabotaging > projects, i.e the "Behind the Music" on VH-1, and performances that were to > be tribute concerts in Australia, and all the interviews that were supposed > to be aired. These things never happened. The management set these things > up, only to have them shot down and we the fans get nothing. Profiting by > censoring someone's hard work and the fan's haven for information is wrong, > anyway you cut it. If the management wants to put good time to their > efforts, put it into projects like the one's listed. Shutting down > information only makes matters worse. > Maybe before you critique my comments "as trash talk", you can research > more into the matter of why the comments were written in the first place. > > Thanks for letting me vent, > > Vicki > > supavickson@earthlink.net > > At 11:21 PM 7/11/99 PDT, you wrote: > >Finally, we have someone submitting a reasoned and balanced view of the MP3 > >issue! Lynn's comments are a refreshing change from the trash talk that has > >come across this list. > > > >However, hybrid1616 needs to locate the CAPS key on her keyboard. It's over > >on the left, and it's used at the beginning of sentences. A spellchecker > >would be good, too. We've got only one English language; let's protect it > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 12 23:42:43 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:41:20 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Pop Up Video Just here to let you know that the next time VH1 will be broadcasting the Need You Tonight/Mediate Pop Up Video will be Sat, July 17 at 2:30 AM EST. I know that a bunch of us are also into Depeche Mode, so you may be interesting in knowing that there will also be a Pop Up for "Everything Counts", on Fri, July 16 at 10:30AM EST! Take care, Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 08:41:13 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:31:23 +0100 From: "Marie-B. Glaize" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: It ain't easy It sounded obviously like Michael for me. Maybe Andrew's doing some also. I have to listen carefully. Marie-B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 08:43:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:20:59 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Welcome To Wherever We Are G'day Dennis > as for the missing aussie......i thought something looked a little >peculiar out there on the barbie, angus ted! (i think i'm going to be sick!). >actually, the 20th member is from your intracontinental neighbor, new zealand. > ><<<<<<<<is it a spell'n error or has someone 'disappeared'?............ >>actually, the 20th member is from your intracontinental neighbor, >>new zealand. At 1st, i thought it was a very peculiar way of spell'n Austria, this puts tha ice'n on tha cake, what an unorthodox, extraordinarily bizarre way of spell'n NZ(New Zealand). >>Australia: 19 >even if there are dusty balls >between the legs? So i asume that's the explanation for the unsolvable coded NZ that ya mercilessly laid on us, that ya still have'nt had a spare momment ta dust ya balls!! :-):-) MYSTIFIED AngusteD X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 10:25:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 13 Jul 99 07:24:01 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Name that singer! Round 2. X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id KAA30897 As long as we are debating who sings on what.... After four years of looking (literally) I finally managed to score a copy of the Austrailian version of the Heavent Sent single which sports the "gliding version" remix of the same song. The thing is, this time it definitely DOESN'T sound like Michael singing. Since Andrew wrote the song, I'm guessing that this version is actually a demo with him doing the singing. Anyone know for sure who stepped up to the mic on that one? Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 11:54:24 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:52:38 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video Dennis wrote: > Just here to let you know that the next time VH1 will be broadcasting the > Need You Tonight/Mediate Pop Up Video will be Sat, July 17 at 2:30 AM EST. Thanks for the tip on this one!! I have the ones for NTUA and Devil Inside...so I'll have a real collection going on! > I > know that a bunch of us are also into Depeche Mode, so you may be interesting > in knowing that there will also be a Pop Up for "Everything Counts", on Fri, > July 16 at 10:30AM EST! Well, if it's show #138, it's really "Personal Jesus". I got all excited yesterday 'cause the program guide on my satellite said Everything Counts yesterday and it turned out to be PJ. BTW, if you search Spin the Bottle's website for Pop Up Videos, there isn't one for "Need You Tonight" and Depeche Mode only returns a Hall and Oates video and another one I can't remember....not a peep about actual DM videos! Seems like their search doesn't work real well, hm?! L&P, Heidi B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 12:34:58 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:33:16 +0000 From: Shae-Lynn To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue I'm sorry but it's about time that this rude member of the list-Courtney was put in her place. Looking through my e-mails on my server I've noticed that this is not the first time this woman has attacked someone. She was also rude to Matthew who is a very informative & helpful person from the list. >oh, matthew... what are you, high? the mp3s had been removed from the >geocities site last week.. the link to the mp3 archive is DEAD... it brings don't go flinging this crap that he hasn't obliged.. matthew, i'm >disappointed in you.. you know how to click on links, don't make >accusations Then she attacked me. For your info my darlin. I only asked a question & was not rude about it. I'm a much bigger fan of INXS than you'll probably ever know & this treatment is not appropriate for such a loyal fan. I'm pointing this out to everyone as I am fair dinkum-sick & tired of the rudeness & crap on this list. Don't you know we have rules? BTW-I did infact press on my e-mail server this morning & read this stuff about Hybrid & it seemed rather disjointed so I asked to see if anyone could tell me as I was interested. I have over 800 mails on my server so please bare with me & I'm sorry to have offended anyone. Remember to follow the list rules & the world will be a much better place. THis bad behaviout being currently exchnaged is NOT acceptable. Thanks for your cooperation! Love Stace. XX > > maybe if you'd read all of your posts, you'd know what this was > about... everything that has gone on re: this post and lynn > (hybrid1616) all went on today on the list... it's not our fault if you > can't keep up with your mail > > --- Shae-Lynn wrote: > > Excuse me but would someone mind telling me what all > > this stuff about > > hybrid1616 is all about? I have a right to know > > since I'm on this list. > > Again it would be better off as a digest. > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 13:29:56 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:17:58 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [It ain't easy] >sung by Andrew it seems like he has a slightly higher pitched voice than Michael does and in the voice for It Ain't Easy. I think I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. Yes, well, I think that the verse is sung by Michael and probably the chorus by Andrew. It's hard to say because the singing style differs a lot from Michael's usual style. Ahhhh how can we find out? ;-) Take care Markus --------- "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, the point however is to change it." (K.M.) "There are reasons here to give your life and follow in your way" (INXS) X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 14:09:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Courtney Chase To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Rebuttle (ahem!) and New Sensation Interview question. Shae lynn wrote: I'm sorry but it's about time that this rude member of the list-Courtney was put in her place. Looking through my e-mails on my server I've noticed that this is not the first time this woman has attacked someone. Ok... I'll stoop to your level for about 30 seconds out of foolish pride, then I'll get on with more important things. There is INXS content at the bottom and it's labeled, so for those who don't want to read my snippy remarks can just drop to the bottom. LOL. 1st of all -- if you have had a problem with me, you should have discussed it with ME before posting it to the list... not that I didn't know this was coming before you posted it because you accidentally responded to my private post privately instead of to the list where I assumed it was meant to go... 2nd of all -- quit your incessant whining and contribute something for God's sake. Yes, I have done my share of complaining lately when I should have contributed more, but hey.. that's life. 3rd of all -- the MP3 issue has been dropped and taken to private discussion out of respect for other list members-- which was what that snip from my response to Matthew was from. Actually, to my knowledge -- it's been dropped completely. Matthew and I both apologized to each other and agreed that we'd both gotten a bit out of line. I believe that he and Davy have just agreed to disagree. The next time you have an issue with me, please discuss it with me first in PRIVATE before taking it to the list. I was simply irritated with the fact that people who can't keep up with their mail should not complain to the entire group about it as the rest of us either keep up or (as i have to on occasion) do a delete of 300 and start over. It's not our responsibility to make sure each and every individual is caught up. Ok..as promised, INXS content -- Davy and I were listening to the Interview that came with the New Sensation Double Gatefold the other night and we hadn't listened to it before (because we hadn't had a turntable -- we've listened to a LOT of new stuff this week LOL). The part that I found interesting was the part where the interviewer guy (DJ) said something like "Andrew, I hear you hate touring" and Andrew said "I always hear that I say that." and proceeded to deny it. But I have heard that he said that he hates/hated touring many times... now, my question is... did he really hate touring? did he say that, like was it quoted somewhere -- or was it just assumed because he hated hotels and being away from his wife...or was it just a nasty rumor LOL just something I was thinking about after listening to it the other day. Courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 15:01:56 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:55:13 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Rebuttle (ahem!) and New Sensation Interview question. <> Courtney, I have read this as well in several places, among them the band's official tour guide from the X tour. And as I recall, in The Great Video Experience video, there's a scene backstage with Andrew and Kirk and the interviewer asks Kirk if he's tired and he says no, but that (and don't quote me here) Andrew was tired and would just like to go home. In the tour book, Andrew says he originally liked working in the studio more than playing live on tour because he couldn't write on the road. Later, when he started taking a guitar and small keyboard with him and could write on the road rather than "wasting time," as he put it, he didn't mind it so much. Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 15:07:15 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: patrice payne To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My response can we all write letter together to management and you is the management to inxs or michael ,and their alot of inxs fans want to see more inxs on tv,video or book or something even for the next generation look at see how that they was the best rock band and the official inxs web site they should update look at other official website they keep it update if any body know the email adddress to the management we can email a letter X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 17:22:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:16:09 GMT From: "doug cruz" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: E! yes yes, i know that E! is kind of a sleezy (and don't forget shallow) station, but i've wathced some of their "true hollywood story" specials before, and they seem to be pretty good. speeking of E!, does anyone else besides me watch 'fashion emergency' and feel like what they're doing is community service?? LOL :) doug > >Just thought I'd let you know E! True Hollywood Story's is doing a show on >Michael!!! > >Not sure when it will be on!! > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 17:25:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:23:54 +0200 From: "Graziella" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue I am fair dinkum-sick & tired of the rudeness & crap on this list. >Don't you know we have rules? . Remember to follow the list rules & >the world will be a much better place. THis bad behaviout being >currently exchnaged is NOT acceptable. Thanks for your cooperation! i just wanted to give my opinion on this ( sorry for those who don't appreciate me!!) im again tired also of these fans that spend their time insulting the others. im also tired of receiving tons of posts from people that are just argyuing...it is getting more and more boring...this is an INXS list, supposed to be made of INXS fans not warriors! as you said Stace, it is no more acceptable and i just don't understand why the RULER of the list does not intervene on this to improve the situation.... all this is a shame and i sincerely hope that one day, we will be able to talk about our fav band without flaming each other... remember Hutch's last words in LBL show: Love and Peace. xxx Graziella who is still on the list.... X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 18:13:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue I too wish this could again be the haven for INXS fans who have stayed supportive thru thick and thin..... Perhaps when Michael's solo album comes out, we will all have wonderful new things to talk about... and new energy pumped into the list. I sure hope so, as I have made many great friends here. Patricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 18:15:45 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Courtney Chase To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: MP3 issue --- Graziella wrote: i > just don't understand why > the RULER of the list does not intervene on this to > improve the > situation.... Because a) nanci is a manager NOT a moderator or a "ruler." This means that she makes sure the list does not break, fixes it when it does, and handles subscriptions and unsubscriptions when the software doesn't do it for her. b) nanci does not have time to babysit us... sometimes we all need it, but nanci simply does not have time to make sure that bobby and susie are getting along, nor should she have to as we are all adults. c) nanci has NEVER kicked a person off the list and never hopes to. d) nanci will intervene if it becomes absolutely necessary but she knows that if things are let go, they go away... they run their course and we move on. If people want INXS content, they should bring INXS content to the list instead of complaining about a lack of INXS content. It's been a tense couple of weeks and we're starting to cool off again. Maybe I haven't acted like a grown-up the whole time, but the same could be said for others. Anyway.. if we let it go, it will go away and we can get back to business. If a person is having a problem with another person, they should take it up with that person in particular... granted we don't always think and wind up flying off at the handle, but hey... that's being human. We are all adults here and we are all responsible for our own actions. We should not count on Nanci to save us from people who back us into a corner on occasion. Nanci, feel free to flame me in PRIVATE if i was out of line "speaking" for you. ;-) courtney X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 18:16:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:12:26 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Rebuttle (ahem!) and New Sensation Interview question. On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:55:13 -0400, Church, Amanda wrote: I have that tape and there is one segma where Kirk says..."I'm glad its over." Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Tue Jul 13 20:06:13 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:07:51 +1200 From: "N & J McPhail" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: B-sides Query Sometime ago someone (Joe I think his name was) posted to the listed about an available CD of INXS B-sides. Does anyone have any info pertaining to this as I would would like to consider purchasing this CD?? Any help appreciated. Jam X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 08:52:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:10:32 +1000 From: Michael Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video Would somebody mind telling me what "pop up video" means and how is it different from any regular vid? If at all. Michael Talon X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 08:54:01 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: a voice from the other side Hi everyone on the INXS mailing list, (yup, it's a long one.... have a seat!) So many issues have been passionately debated on the list in recent weeks about MP3's, management, rules, INXS indifference, spies, copyrights, legal issues and with displays of such alarming malcontent, that I asked Nanci today if I could log on for a time to be a sounding board, answer questions and just try to bridge this widening gap. The band and management think it's a good idea, so here I am throwing myself to the wolves... I'm at your mercy (be kind to me, now). For those who don't know me, I've been firmly planted in this INXS universe for many years, keeping one foot rooted in the fan world and the other foot flexed with the various management incarnations, while trying to keep both feet out of my mouth (no small feat I tell ya). Many who know me understand I can take a while to get to the point, so please bear with me. I really do want to bring some calm and understanding and if I don't know the answer, I'll either find out or say there is no answer. How did management find out about Davy's MP3 site so quickly unless there's a 'spy' among you, ratting to the internet police? Well, the truth is, for years now, there's always been at least 5-6 people who keep me informed regularly about happenings on the list, because I'm truly interested in what you all talk about and think. I get so many emails from inxs.com that I just don't have time to be a list subscriber and this was always a good solution. While it wasn't me who notified management about Davy's expanded MP3 site, it certainly could have been as I heard about it in the very next breath and would have taken action immediately myself. We always knew about his previous smaller MP3 site and just let it go for a variety of reasons, mostly because management wanted to give some slack to all the fan sites (yes, that is the truth). Obviously with his expanded edition, it had to be stopped. No compromise, no discussion. It is their solid legal right to do that, without debate. Then things started to get out of hand. A lot of mudd got slung. MP3s are a serious problem to those in the music industry - being pursued with all the fervor and resources available to record companies, music publishers and artists (and it's going to get worse in the next 12 months I'm told). The industry is chomping at the bit to have the legal power and go-ahead from the courts to stomp on websites who violate their copyright laws. I realize you all know this, don't need more discussion on the issue. The easiest way to avoid this black cloud is to simply not post MP3s to your INXS websites (it's really not such a big deal when you think about it). Notice we're not talking about other music files (WAVs, MIDIs, RealAudios)? If you really are desperate to have copies of long-deleted hard to find songs, do it the old fashioned way and trade tapes with those who have the music. Yes, I know this is a big drag considering it's the digital age, but it's a solution that works. While I'm not aware of and can't guarantee there won't be other copyright/industry/website issues coming up in the future (unauthorized photos, lyrics, logos....whatever the legal eagles decided to pursue), INXS will always do what their lawyers, publishers and record companies advise them to do (no mystery there). It is after all, a business, with over 20 years of the bands hard work at stake and they will not think twice about pursuing someone who crosses over the line. But, what exactly is 'crossing the line', you ask? I don't know the answer right now, yet it is acknowledged that guidelines need to be given and will be soon (see below). Notice not one INXS website/web ring/tribute site/webpage, etc. has been approached by management to take down their sites? With the exception of a few news items on inxsweb.com that the band were understandably sensitive about and a few private dressing room photos on another fans site, NO ONE has been told unequivocally to remove pages that I know of (please correct me if I'm wrong). It greatly saddens me that fans who have dedicated their hearts and souls (not to mention money and personal time) to building beautiful tributes to Michael and fantastic dedications to INXS would feel intimidated and compelled enough to remove their sites in protest. There's some over-reaction going on in my opinion. About the official website.... a Sydney-based web company has just signed on with INXS to relaunch inxs.com. They very much want all the fan-based websites to be a part of what inxs.com is going to be. While I'm still unclear about specific content/design/offerings at inxs.com, the rumblings I've heard so far are pretty spectacular. It has definitely been acknowledged how important the fan-based websites are to INXS and I think you webmasters will be pleasantly surprised when you hear from them. At the same time, the 'rules' (hate that word, how about: general information and guidelines .....not threats and intimidations) will be outlined in a helpful and constructive way. I've said a lot here and will give you all a break. If you want to open some public discussions to the list for me to dig into please do, I'll be as candid as I can (keep the mud slinging to a minimum, please). Any private comments or questions, requiring private responses, please post them to me directly at: in2xs@inxs.com INXS specifically asked me to thank you for all your support. Please know the band really DOES appreciate the dedication and love you've shown over the years. And in the words of MH.... Be kind to one another. Cheers, Mary Woods * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 08:57:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:30:59 GMT From: "Mike L" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: anyone see dogs in space? i went to rent it at hollywood video and they are supposedly supposed to have everything but they didnt :( hehe was it good or what ? thx LoSt BoY X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 09:04:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:40:46 +0100 From: Graham Newbery To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video Excuse my ignorance, but what is different about a pop-up video?! Graham Graham Newbery Devon Finance Services Telephone: 01392 382784 Fax: 01392 383435 email: gnewbery@devon-cc.gov.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Heidi Beaulieu [SMTP:hbeaulieu@ticz.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 4:53 PM > To: Multiple recipients of > Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video > > > > Dennis wrote: > > > Just here to let you know that the next time VH1 will be > broadcasting the > > Need You Tonight/Mediate Pop Up Video will be Sat, July 17 at 2:30 > AM EST. > > Thanks for the tip on this one!! I have the ones for NTUA and Devil > Inside...so > I'll have a real collection going on! > > > I > > know that a bunch of us are also into Depeche Mode, so you may be > interesting > > in knowing that there will also be a Pop Up for "Everything Counts", > on Fri, > > July 16 at 10:30AM EST! > > Well, if it's show #138, it's really "Personal Jesus". I got all > excited yesterday > 'cause the program guide on my satellite said Everything Counts > yesterday and it > turned out to be PJ. > > BTW, if you search Spin the Bottle's website for Pop Up Videos, there > isn't one > for "Need You Tonight" and Depeche Mode only returns a Hall and Oates > video and > another one I can't remember....not a peep about actual DM videos! > Seems like > their search doesn't work real well, hm?! > > L&P, > Heidi B. > > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 10:55:18 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:50:47 -0500 From: Sherry To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Arguing and a new topic. Ummm.. just to point out something. This MP3 issue has been pretty much dead for about a week and the only arguing that is going on is the people still commenting on the arguments? Not pointing fingers but if we want the issue to stop..... then why don't we just move on and let it stop? If we continue to make comments about an issue that is over, then it isn't really over. The original parties have all gone back in their corners and there is peace between them so there's just no point to posts about being sick of reading about it... it's already done, okay? :) Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? The first song I loved was Original Sin, but What You Need got me and I picked up Listen Like Thieves (on vinyl - remember vinyl? LOL) and I've never looked back. After Kick I picked up everything I could get my hands on, scouring those little back street record stores with the import sections full of bands no one has ever heard. Those were the days I actually lived in a city that had record stores LOL. For the X album, I picked it up on vinyl, c.d. and also bought the tape so I could listen to it in the car on the way home.... obsessive to some, but I'm sure you all understand :). So what started it all for the rest of you? Take care, Sherrianne X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 12:26:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:24:52 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video Michael Talon wrote: > Would somebody mind telling me what "pop up video" means and how is it different from > any regular vid? If at all. It's a show where little "bubbles" of trivial information "pop-up" into the videos, telling viewers things like "the crew set off fireworks outside the bar and the burn marks can still be seen" in Devil Inside & the girl in NTUA was "a ballerina and both Michael and the director had a crush on". I like 'em 'cause it makes watching a video you've seen a thousand times interesting again! Hope that helps.... Heidi B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 12:27:09 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:23:11 -0500 From: Sherry To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Pop Up Video A pop-up video is one where they have little messages that look like word balloons pop up during the video and give information about the video. For example, they will give information about the band, where the video was made, little known facts and anecdotes and even what the band/artist is doing these days, if it's an old video. It can be annoying when you are watching the video but the information is usually interesting. Sherrianne X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 12:49:21 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:47:43 PDT From: "Donna B" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: a voice from the other side Hi Mary it's Curious Donna ..I met you at Michael memorial last year. I hope your doing well and have a lovely day :-} My opinion on the INXS issue I've really enjoyed hearing the way people feel about this INXS management issue, while 90% of us sit back like whoosy babies and don't express how we honestly feel..well this is how I feel..seeing as it is us (the fans)that are going to keep them "alive", they need to know our opinions.. Frankly I think the band have been very arrogant towards respecting the fans...(by way of)everything is a big secret all the time, the Mushroom concert, Marc Hunter benefit, and every other thing they've been involved in. Would it have hurt to have let us devoted fans know of any of the upcoming events?... and did they realise how many oversees fans were willing to travel across the world if only they'd had some kind of confirmation of all these rumoured events, I'm sure with the up to the minute updates to management on the goings on of this list .......yeah yeah!!!! <<>>>>> And as they say .."don't bite the hand that feeds you" We're all pretty obsessed here and will beg, borrow or steal to have anything INXSive...Well I'd go without my chocolate anyhow...So I don't think it's us that are going to put them out of pocket... I also feel like some of my fellow INXS fans have been used. They've kept the band alive "on the internet" all this time, and from my eyes have been given the flick now they're not needed any more. I just think this sucks and reminds me of what a cut throat world this is. Well that's my gripe...and I've got it off my chest... So I wish the band well in the future, and keep your chin up guys!!! I hope this management keeps up on being sooo efficient and gets the whip out on this new web site company... Cheers Mary and all... Curious Donna B X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 12:56:04 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:51:09 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. Sherry wrote: > Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS > album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? The One Thing got a hold of me late one night around 1982 (going on the date of the 45. He, he, remember 45's--3 for $5 or something like that!) While I'd love to say that it was the incredibly energitic music or guitar solo that got me, it was actually....how adorable Tim was while playing and Kirk's Union Jack socks that got my attention! LOL Hey, I was a teenager then!!! Of course the show didn't mention how to pronounce the name, which lead to confusion when I tried to buy that 45....but that's all been fixed by now! My folks bought me the album for Christmas... Thank goodness they weren't too interested in my musical tastes or that sleeve picture would have put a stop to my devotion for a few years until I was on my own and able to buy whatever I wanted! LOL L&P, Heidi B., who's a lot poorer--and happier--thanks to that one video.... X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 13:09:19 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:06:16 EDT From: Inxsible2@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. << Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS > album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? >> Unfortunately, I didn't get "hooked" until the KICK album. "Need You Tonight" is what made me buy it. After buying that, I pretty much bought anything that was INXS-related. Chris M. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 13:44:08 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:39:57 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. << Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS > album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? >> What You Need. Oh yeah, from the first time I heard WYN, I knew this band was what I needed. From that funky beat that stayed in your head for days to Michael's sexy voice, this was THE song of the year for me. I had heard previous songs (Don't Change and The One Thing, among them) but this song sealed it for me. I had to run right out and buy LLT. I still have that orginal LP (can't hardly read the cover anymore) though I have since re-purchased the album on cassette and twice on CD. To this day, no INXS song brings me happier memories because it was "the first," the reason I fell in love with this band. And I still think the Wembley Live version is one of the best INXS cuts ever. Amanda X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 13:48:51 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:41:31 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:06:16 EDT, Inxsible2@aol.com wrote: My first cd of INXS was KICK and when Michael died i kept on buying more. I got hooked on all the songs and the day i found out Michael died after i taped the special of INXS on MTV i went up to my bedroom...closed all the blinds and put on my KICK cd and layed on bed crying my eyes out to all the songs. I never will forget that day. Heidi > << Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS > > album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? >> > Unfortunately, I didn't get "hooked" until the KICK album. > "Need You Tonight" is what made me buy it. After buying that, > I pretty much bought anything that was INXS-related. > > Chris M. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 13:57:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 14 Jul 99 10:45:02 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [a voice from the other side] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id NAA23792 in2xs@inxs.com wrote: > We always knew about his previous smaller MP3 site and just let it go > for a variety of reasons, mostly because management wanted to give some > slack to all the fan sites (yes, that is the truth). Obviously with his > expanded edition, it had to be stopped. No compromise, no discussion. > It is their solid legal right to do that, without debate. Then things > started to get out of hand. A lot of mudd got slung. Well, as one of the people who had their catapult full of mud pies ready to be launched, I would like to address this issue and hope that we can come to an understanding about this. On the expanded MP3 site I did make a comment to the effect that "if management found out about this site, they would probably have a heart attack." I have a very strong suspicion that people within management circles took that comment personally. From there, I have a feeling that it damaged my relations with David Edwards. As you have stated, MP3s are a VERY hot issue right now. Anyone who has stayed on top of the MP3 debate as much as I have knows that you can't run an MP3 server without running into the risk of getting in trouble with somebody in the recording industry. My comment was never intended to attack, insult, or offend anyone on the other side of the fence. I just happen to be informed enough to know that my site would set off some alarms somewhere and my comment was merely an acknowledgement of that fact. However, somebody on the management side of the fence DID take it personally and as an unfortunate consequence, my relations with Mr. Edwards became much more heated than what they probably needed to be. Then lets add to this Mr. Marsland's posts to the list. I mean no disrespect to Matthew, but between different posts to the list he did post conflicting information about what he did and didn't know was going on. Since he has ties in with management it became really difficult for me to figure out when he was speaking for whom and what his intensions really were. Again, I don't mean offend Matthew or accuse him anything, but hopefully you can see how some his actions on the list were confusing to me. So between having David in one ear and Matthew in the other I was under a lot of stress regarding this situation and I ended up snapping at just about anybody who didn't agree with me. By no means does this excuse my actions, but all of us have a breaking point and somewhere along the way mine was reached. I really don't want to fight with you, or Matthew, or David, or anyone else on this list. Quite honestly I find it very tiring to argue with people and a lot of bad words were said by a lot of people, myself included, none of which were necessary. So, Mary, to anyone on "your side of the fence" who I may have pissed off over the past couple of weeks, please extend my most sincere apologies. On a similar note, to the four or five people here on the list who I threw a mudpie at, all I can ask is that you take into consideration the heat that was focused on me beg for your forgiveness. I honestly do want to work things out peacefully with management. If another fight breaks out, people on the list are bound to take sides and if we have a faction of the fan base working against management, it can only ultimately end up with bad public relations for the band. Bad PR will definitely NOT be in the best interests of the six minus one people that all of us here love. Since I, and presumably everyone here, want to see the band succeed, a co-operative resolution would obviously be in the best interests of everyone involved. > MP3s are a serious problem to those in the music industry - being > pursued with all the fervor and resources available to record companies, > music publishers and artists (and it's going to get worse in the next 12 > months I'm told). The industry is chomping at the bit to have the legal > power and go-ahead from the courts to stomp on websites who violate > their copyright laws. I realize you all know this, don't need more > discussion on the issue. The easiest way to avoid this black cloud is > to simply not post MP3s to your INXS websites (it's really not such a > big deal when you think about it). Notice we're not talking about other > music files (WAVs, MIDIs, RealAudios)? Can I assume from your comment that, if I can find a RealAudio encoder, that I would be allowed to run a RealAudio server of INXS songs? > Notice not one INXS website/web ring/tribute site/webpage, etc. has been > approached by management to take down their sites? With the exception of > a few news items on inxsweb.com that the band were understandably > sensitive about But you see, this is the $64,000 question now isn't it? I know Neil well enough to know that he wouldn't publish anything on his website that would put the band in a negative light. As such, I find it very difficult to beleive that Neil would intentionally post something that would hurt the band. But now it seems like you are telling us that he was asked to remove something simply because it rubbed somebody the wrong way? If I am misinterpreting this please let me know. Neil is a very responsible and intelligent person. I have a hard time beleiving that he would post something that would offend the band. I already feel as if management has misinterpreted my intensions but in light of this I now feel as though I am walking on eggshells. Again, I don't want to point fingers or make accusations, but any attempts I have made to get clarification regarding what is allowable and what isn't have been met with what I feel are very vague responses. This comment just adds to the mystery. Until somebody draws a line in the sand and says "this is how far you can go" I feel very justified in being paranoid. And of course, once the line is drawn in the sand, how is management going to react if we disagree? Despite the fact that I stated to both him and openly in this forum that I respected his decision, he seemed very angered that I still disagreed with him. It is one thing for me to disagree with management, it is a totally different situation for me to defy them. I have never defied management regarding their decision to shut my website down. Yet many statements I have received from management's side are coming off as though I am trying to work against them when the only thing I am trying to do is get clarification and possibly a compromise. I'm not going to argue the MP3 issue with anyone because I know its a no-win battle. But if we (the fans) disagree with taking something down, is there going to be any room for compromise? My relations with Mr. Edwards seem to indicate that there is no budging room and that they will not take kindly to people who disagree with them. If management is going to continue to take an overly-defensive attitude with others as they have with me, many fans are not going to feel its not worth the effort to make an INXS website. > It greatly saddens me that fans who have dedicated their hearts and > souls (not to mention money and personal time) to building beautiful > tributes to Michael and fantastic dedications to INXS would feel > intimidated and compelled enough to remove their sites in protest. > There's some over-reaction going on in my opinion. To a limited extent, I agree. I will acknowledge that you have asked for very little to be taken down. But Matthew has already alluded to the "rules" that are coming down the pipeline but any inquiries into that were not adequately responded to. To the best of my knowledge the ONLY site that has been removed out of protest is the ROTO pages (please correct me if I am wrong). While I wasn't happy with Stayza's decision to remove them, I have read her reasoning for taking them down. As I said above, I have a legitimate reason to feel paranoid about management right now. Until we get something more concrete regarding what will be OK for us and what won't, I understand her paranoia about her site being used by management to shut down "offenders". I don't want to speak for Stayza because I don't know what her intensions or feelings are. However, I would be willing to bet that when the dust settles, if INXS management handles this situation in a reasonable and friendly manner that she will be putting ROTO back up. However, until whoever is going to be enforcing new policy steps into the light and gives us all the details, there is going to be some caution on the part of many people. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 14:01:56 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:57:11 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Dogs in Space You will all bow down to me...well maybe not but in Amazon i found that movie...i don't know if i will order it cause my dad is gonna order me the last cd of INXS i need to finish my collection and the video Live Baby Live but here is the address.... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/630180256X/qid%3D931974825/002-947350 9-3509247 Heidi Hope that will help you!! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 14:14:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:11:11 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Dogs in Space On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:57:11 PDT, Heidi J. wrote: GRRRR...ho let me try that again. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/630180256X/qid%3D93197482//002-947350 9-3509247 K just type it in...the address is to bloody long to fit in this darn e-mail place > You will all bow down to me...well maybe not but in Amazon i found that > movie...i don't know if i will order it cause my dad is gonna order me the > last cd of INXS i need to finish my collection and the video Live Baby Live > but here is the address.... > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/630180256X/qid%3D931974825/002-947350 > 9-3509247 > > > Heidi > Hope that will help you!! X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 14:19:10 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:11:11 EDT From: PWoods0913@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. Actually the first INXS song I ever heard was The One Thing. It was such a great blend of music and that sexy voice. Then I saw the video on MTV - I thought what a great looking bunch of guys. I've been hooked from that day on and would beg my parents to buy me each new album that came out.. Now I have a full collection of albums, cassettes and cds. I have also purchased all the videos they put out and I have all my magazines from way back when.... I have a whole file cabinet dedicated to INXS - God forbid someone goes in there, I would have a fit. And believe it or not, my two children absolutely love INXS ( an 8 year old and 4 year old). They are as hooked as I am... IMHO INXS is the GREATEST BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 14:33:53 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:30:47 EDT From: PWoods0913@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Dogs in Space Hi all, I have a copy of Dogs In Space and Frankenstein Unbound - Michael is in both. You can try Towers Records, Borders, Reel Com for really good prices. I paid less than 20.00 for my copies. www.towerrecords.com www.borders.com www.reel.com Good luck with finding the movies. If I can think of anymore places on the web I have seen those movies, I will write back again. Tricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 15:25:42 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 99 14:30:24 Central Daylight Time From: Barbara Brockman To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me The song that did it for me was Never Tear Us Apart. I'd heard What You Need a few years earlier, but wasn't really into music at the time. So there it was, after school one day, still one of my favourite videos, something about the winter landscape that grabbed me, and reminds me of so much now. INXS was the first band I ever fell in love with. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 17:01:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:52:42 GMT From: "doug cruz" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: a new topic. oh, i remember it as if it were...well, a long time ago! :) their first album i bought was "X" when i was in 6th grade. i stayed up late one night and watched some late night top 10 video count down, and 'disappear' was #2...i LOVED the song, and for the first week that i owned the album, i really didn't know how to pronounce their name! i mean, yes, that was during the middle of their hay day, but i was just getting into music. :) anyway, my dad took me to 'coconut music' after church one day, and he bought me "X" and "The Simpsons Sing the Blues" album!!! at the time, i thought that him spending $20 dollars on me was this amazing thing! LOL anyway, i'd hate to say that the first of the two tapes that i listened to was the simpsons one. does anyone remember that?? remember how to do "the bartman?!?!?!?" LOLOLOLOL :))))))) anyway, my religious fanatic of a sister told my mom that i was getting into "the devil's" music, and that i should have all my new tapes thrown away. i was stunned, so i listened to inxs more, and realized that my sister was, well, full of SH*T!!!!! that same year, she tried to get me into amy grant (when her music was still considered 'christian'). anyway, the first cd that i picked up was "live baby live", in 7th grade...ok, this email is pretty damn long now. i'll let someone else have a go. :) doug > >Now... I have some questions for everyone. What was your first INXS >album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? > >So what started it all for the rest of you? > >Sherrianne > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 19:47:09 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Vicky Prowse To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. I remember the day I discovered INXS really well. It was only a few years ago. I was home from uni for the weekend and Taggert (that scottish show) was on tv. Mum and Dad really wanted to watch it because we migrated from the area which it is filmed. They really love seeing all the old places but as I was so young when we left I don't remember much about the place. Which brings me to INXS. I didn't want to watch Taggert so I decided to watch LBL. After seeing Kirks red suit I was hooked!!! Oh yeah the music was awesome too. I was surprised that I recognised the songs but didn't know they were all INXS songs. Songs I had been singing along to for years. The next day I emailed a friend about my "discovery" at that weekend we sat in her room and listened to every INXS song she had!! Vicky X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 20:38:55 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Gerard To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: a voice from the other side --- Donna B wrote: > Frankly I think the band have been very arrogant towards respecting the fans...(by way of)everything is a big secret all the time, the Mushroom concert, Marc Hunter benefit, and every other thing they've been involved in. > Okay, this comment got to me. I think INXS is absolutely *the* most respectful band when it comes to relating to their fans. C'mon, how many bands give backstages passes to their fan club members just because they're willing to pass out a few flyers at their shows? Maybe we haven't been first and foremost in their thoughts lately, but they are still searching for a direction. > I also feel like some of my fellow INXS fans have been used. They've kept the band alive "on the internet" all this time, and from my eyes have been given the flick now they're not needed any more. I just think this sucks and reminds me of what a cut throat world this is. > Just a reminder: The band doesn't owe us anything. I consider supporting INXS a hobby -- or a passion -- not a job I'm supposed to get paid for. Karen karenduran@yahoo.com X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 20:44:08 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:34:58 -0400 From: "Tony D." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: My first INXS album............... Hi all! My first INXS album was "X" and that was only the beginning................I first heard of INXS through my sister, who was a big fan for years........but what got me 'hooked' was the X Tour here in Boston!!!! After seeing them live, I was 'flabbergasted' by how 'tight' of a sound they had, especially MH's voice...it was in great form!!!! I've been a devout follower ever since, especially their 'live' stuff! Take care, Tony D. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 22:07:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:40:23 +1000 From: "angusted" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. G'day....... ><< What was your first INXS > > album? What song hooked you and made you buy the album? Bout 82 at the long wkend gig at Narara, young 'unknown/new' bands were play'n off the back of a truck up tha back. I happened ta be up that way when i seen this young band sing'n songs that i'd heard on the radio, the main one i remember is Black & White. Freak me out, INXS were tops!! Don't know what one i brought 1st? Would have been one of their 1st few albums then their cd's when they came bout SHABOOH AngusteD X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Wed Jul 14 22:18:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:33:42 -0400 From: Neil Kothari To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: [Fwd: Come Vote for INXS!!!!] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Come Vote for INXS!!!! Date: 13 Jul 1999 08:33:44 GMT From: gruvyamy@aol.com (Gruvyamy) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.music.inxs Come Vote for INXS at my website's Battle of the Bands! This week INXS's Devil Inside is up against U2's Pride (In the Name of Love). http://members.aol.com/gruvyamy/battle.htm Come Support Our Band!! Thanks And Have Fun!! Amy Gruvyamy@aol.com X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 00:33:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:29:37 -0400 (EDT) From: SHOWBIZKID@webtv.net (JOE HEILER) To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: My first INXS album & experience Hi Everyone, This is my first post to this site,altough I have been observing for some time,great topic,my brother invited me to go see the Kinks with him in "83" at Stabler Arena,which is located at Lehigh University,Bethlehem PA,well it just so happens INXS was the "warm-up" band,nowadays I think it is called the "opening act",as Michael was pouring his heart and soul into Don't Change some clown in about the fifth row started screaming "we want the Kinks" after a few of his drunken chants the next thing I know Michael drops the mike,takes a flying leap into the seats and commenced to pounce on the idiot,at least I think he got the right person,in a matter of a minute or so all the lights came on security was swarming the scene and with a few ejections and a 45 min. wait the Kinks finally took the stage, funny thing happened to me that night,I don't remember the Kinks show but I became one of the biggest INXS fans around, shortly after my wife bought me Shabooh Shoobah and she and my daughter became an INXS family,We still are, Thank you for your time,I hope to share other memories soon. Joe X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 08:42:20 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:10:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Patricia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My first INXS album & experience WOW, it is great to read something like this!!! As I think most of you know, I never was lucky enough to attend an INXS concert and see them play live. So these kind of "memories" are so cool for me to read!!! Thanks!! Patricia --- JOE HEILER wrote: > Hi Everyone, > This is my first post to this site,altough I have > been observing > for some time,great topic,my brother invited me to go see > the Kinks with > him in "83" at Stabler Arena,which is located at Lehigh > University,Bethlehem PA,well it just so happens INXS was > the "warm-up" > band,nowadays I think it is called the "opening act",as > Michael was > pouring his heart and soul into Don't Change some clown > in about the > fifth row started screaming "we want the Kinks" after a > few of his > drunken chants the next thing I know Michael drops the > mike,takes a > flying leap into the seats and commenced to pounce on the > idiot,at least > I think he got the right person,in a matter of a minute > or so all the > lights came on security was swarming the scene and with a > few ejections > and a 45 min. wait the Kinks finally took the stage, > funny thing > happened to me that night,I don't remember the Kinks show > but I became > one of the biggest INXS fans around, shortly after my > wife bought me > Shabooh Shoobah and she and my daughter became an INXS > family,We still > are, Thank you for your time,I hope to share other > memories soon. > Joe === * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * MICHAEL KELLAND FRANK HUTCHENCE "Good night, sweet prince, And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" ~~~ Hamlet X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 08:57:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:03:17 +1000 From: Michael Talon To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. My first record as most of you already know was KICK, Need U Tonite was the song that grabbed me. Although later on after I bought Shabooh Shoobah or heard it on radio, I learned that "Don't Change" was actually my favourite song prior to that, I just didnt know who performed it and I didnt buy the record. I just remember thinking what a great sound it was. I was quite pleased at the consistency of my tastes. LOL I just picked up the Elegantly Wasted song book, and a few things occured to me that you dont pick up while enjoying just listening. This is perhaps one of the simplest INXS albums there is to play!!!!!!! Secondly Gary doesnt have the most complex job in the world on bass, but unlike on the X album the other instruments really hide this fact. Thirdly I need to buy a new guitar (or new set of ears), cause I was a tone/semitone out in my assumptions on most of the guitar on this album. LOOOLLLL Fourth and it doesnt hit you while listening but Let It Ride is a pretty hot tempo 176!!!!!.....I was sort of counting it half time (88). There aint too many INXS songs that are in that tempo range are there? Devil being 150. And another thing I wanted to ask those in the know. INXS pretty much have used 4/4 common time on most of their songs and the occasional 12/8 ballad like Never Tear Us Apart....does anybody know of any songs that arent in those time scales. I cant think of any offhand. Michael Talon Destruction and pestilence will follow them cursed as they are, they will roam for many a time to a place where all evil collides. In this darkness they will stumble and fall over each other trying to find the light which no longer burns. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 09:11:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 15 Jul 99 07:15:30 MDT From: To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [My first INXS album & experience] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id JAA41684 I first saw INXS on TV in 1985 (the Hamburg show). Fortunately my cousin and my aunt from Australia visited us at that time and my cousin got a tape with Original Sin. Guess who kept the tape???LOL Hey Gregory, I still have your tape. Unfortunately we are not in contact anymore. Is anyone on this list living near Frankston (Melbourne area)?? BTW the first album I've bought was Listen like Thieves. Andrea X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 10:23:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:07:30 +1000 From: "Karen Lobb" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Something different - Michael's "last letter" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id KAA52785 After being pretty quiet for a while, there’s a new article out on Paula this week – billed the “amazing untold story” written by Jo Fairley, long time friend and one of Tiger’s godparents. Not much new, just about Paula’s earth mother persona, and reiterating how the death had to be an accident, as he would never have left Tiger. One interesting bit was a paragraph from Michael’s last letter to Paula, supposedly written from LA the week before he died. It’s quoted: “Please know that you are a wonderful, caring, sensitive, bright, extremely witty and talented woman, not to mention your childlike sparkling eyes, warm lips and gorgeous bottom and breasts – you are one in 1,000,000.” I know it's useless to give into conjecture - but does it sound like a farewell of sorts? You know how you sometimes soften someone up before the blow.. We’ll never know, I guess. There’s also new photos of Tiger in a fairy dress, looking as cute as ever and very grown-up, with her mum, who looks like the last couple of years have been pretty hard ones. Understandable, I suppose, but I hope she's hanging in there for Tiger's sake. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 10:29:15 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:36:16 +0100 From: "P.D.Thackray" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Video ideas I was watching "Blade Runner" last night and I couldn't help thinking of the "Listen Like Theives" video. The first thing that drew my attention to it was when one of the female replicants colours her face really white and then spray paints black across her eyes and I couldn't help thinking that I'd seen the black across the eyes somewhere before. After the film I realised it was the girl in LLT who has the black band across her eyes. Also if you then think about LLT is set in a very disrupted world, everything being in ruins, which is very like the world of blade runner. It could possibly be post apocalyptic in LLT as many Sci-fi films have taken a basis on Blade Runner and LLT could be a homage to several, hence everybody walking around with guns. I know alot of people think about LLT as being as the same time as "Dogs in Space", but I personnally see more of a relationship to Sci-fi films and a post holicostal world (I can't remeber what year terminator 1 was at the moment). Anyway, just a thought - I'm not saying INXS are replicants because they play better music than everyone else, but its a thought. Penny X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 10:32:38 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:41:21 +1200 From: "N & J McPhail" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: B-Sides Query - Response to Davy's post Does anyone have any info on my earlier post (see below) re the B-sides or is this not an opportune time to discuss this topic? >>Sometime ago someone (Joe I think his name was) posted to the listed about an available CD of INXS B-sides. Does anyone have any info pertaining to this as I would would like to consider purchasing this CD?? Any help appreciated.<< MP3's - Don't read on if this is an issue your not interested in! In response to Davy's post re MP3's since this issue doesn't appear to be dying of a natural death, I would add that I was thoroughly enjoying downloading these MP3's which Davy so kindly put up for us to enjoy and whilst I can understand in part why these had to go, I feel that Management now has in some way a responsibility to make these rare songs available to the fans. To the best of my knowledge these are not easily accessible (please correct me someone if I am wrong as I am sure you will! Trading is as easy as suggested by them. After all we all just want to enjoy and appreciate good music - I don't mind how - if I have to pay for this so be it! Jam X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 10:36:59 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:35:27 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My first INXS album & experience On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:10:50 +0000 (GMT), Patricia wrote: Same for me...i was born in '81 and i never got to see them but to hear stories about their concerts...really brings the concerts to life in my mind. You can visulize the concert in your mind and its like you were there. Heidi > WOW, it is great to read something like this!!! As I think > most of you know, I never was lucky enough to attend an > INXS concert and see them play live. So these kind of > "memories" are so cool for me to read!!! > > Thanks!! > > Patricia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 10:50:41 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:48:12 +0100 From: Graham Newbery To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Something different - Michael's "last letter" I have to say it - sorry to offend maybe - but for someone "so committed" to Michael, she has managed to get through quite a few other men in the 20 months since. I was expecting some kind of short hiatus while she picked up the pieces, but that didn't ever seem to happen. Being a Brit, I think that PY doesn't exactly do her country proud. She has jumped on every bandwagon in the past to make money here there and everywhere, i.e. "The amazing untold story". Fellow Brits will remember her embarrassing performance on Have I Got News For You as well. As a long time INXS fan, I could never see exactly what MH saw in PY, but then I also respect the each to his own thinking. Glad that's off my chest... Graham. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 13:44:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:41:27 EDT From: Locomouth@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Missing Poster person i'm sorry for posting this to the main list but does anyone know what happened to zoefirth, i keep getting a fatal error? If you do know it could you forward this on. thank you I apologize everyone esp Norma. I broke my wrist and like superwoman i thought i could do it all. but NOT!! anyway Norma's and Beth frm PA went out today thurs 15 july. Pete and Megan's are on hold. That just leaves dazza and Zoe? What cha gonna do? I have 2 back ups just in case. If you do like Beth and Mistress K. send me the tube. Inside write the mailing address, your email name, and a priority stamp. I will put poster inside, put stamp on outside, place a label with your address on it, and have the mailroom ship it out. i can only peck on the key board 4 fingers. when you 2 get the posters no i did no ask for help from my 2 year old niece. i'm a lefty and i broke my left wrist. Ciao for now Tianna That's it. No more long ones. In and out in a flash, that's the all new me. Said the Nightfly to his wife. The Blackboard One day when the teacher walked into the classroom, she noticed that someone had written the word 'PENIS' (in tiny letters) on the blackboard. She scanned the class looking for a guilty face. Finding none, she rubbed the word off and began class. The next day, the word 'PENIS' was written on the board again; this time it was written about halfway across the board. Again she looked around in vain for the culprit, so she proceeded with the day's lesson. Every morning for about a week, she went into the classroom and found the same disgusting word written on the board, each day's being larger than the previous one, and each being rubbed off vigorously. At the end of the second week, she walked in expecting to be greeted by the same word on the board but instead found the words: "The more you rub it, the bigger it gets." X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 13:45:50 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 15 Jul 99 10:42:43 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [B-Sides Query - Response to Davy's post] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id NAA08213 "N & J McPhail" wrote: > In response to Davy's post re MP3's since this issue doesn't appear to > be dying of a natural death, I would add that I was thoroughly enjoying > downloading these MP3's which Davy so kindly put up for us to enjoy and > whilst I can understand in part why these had to go, I feel that > Management now has in some way a responsibility to make these rare songs > available to the fans. To the best of my knowledge these are not easily > accessible (please correct me someone if I am wrong as I am sure you > will! Trading is as easy as suggested by them. After all we all just > want to enjoy and appreciate good music - I don't mind how - if I have > to pay for this so be it! Well, how easy it is to find the songs depends on what resources you have. I collect REM stuff just as fervently as I do INXS. So between the two I've managed to build up a small pool of contacts that I can harass to look for things for me. Of course, I won't brag because I know many people who have more resources (and much larger collections) than I do. Some items I can find at the drop of a hat and others have taken me literally four years to track down. But the point though is that if you just want to get your hands on some b-sides, and you're not too picky about which ones, it really doesn't take more than about $50, a couple hours of research, and a few well placed phone calls to get started. As for as managements responsibility to provide you access to them, unfortunately for us they don't. They hold a copyright on the songs and COPY-RIGHT is exactly what it says it is. It gives the owner the right to decide when and how their material is copied. If the band records a song, copyrights it, takes the only master tape, locks it in a vault, and buries it in the desert, there isn't anything we can do to make them let us listen to the song. Life is brutal, get used to it ;-) Now, as Mary has kindly come forward to point out, we can copy the tapes and distibute them among ourselves. Technically, this is illegal, but record companies usually turn their blind eye towards that type of activity. I know that Leah has (or had) a B-side tape that floats between the fans. At some point when my life settles down and I finish all my other projects, I may consider offering a B-sides CD. But otherwise, all I can tell you is happy hunting! Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 13:53:30 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:49:43 -0400 From: "Karen L. Sweeney" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Still looking for someone Karen S. here still looking for someone. There is a guy who sent me a check for $4 for the Pittsburgh show - sent it to me in a work (I presume) envelope possibly from the Philadelphia area... My husband cashed the check before I could copy down the address - and I can't find the envelope with the work return address. I owe you a tape. If this is you please email me and I will be in touch about sending you the tape. Thanks. Karen S. Wnt2psu@hgo.net X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 13:54:58 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:53:15 +0100 From: Julia To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Q Magazine Article I saw that article and now the magazine is lying in bits somewhere on the motorway between Perth and Kinross. I threw it away in disgust! But hey what do you expect from Q magazine. Julia. Anthony Watt wrote: > > Hi, I am usually what you might call a silent list member as most of the > time I just read the mail. However an article in Q kinda got up my nose. The > latest edition features the greatest 100 stars of the 20th Century. MH does > not feature in the top 100, however the magazine also had a section called > Stars In Their Minds which did have MH in. Over a picture of him they have > the caption 'Crap Jim Morrison!'. Please find below the rest of the article > and comment as you see fit. > > MICHEAL HUTCHENCE > > So Good They Replaced Him With Terence Trent D'Arby > > May he rest in peace naturally, but the let's face it, the much touted "star > quality" of the doomed INXS singer was always relative: arise the lithest, > slinkiest member of INXS(akin to being the best looking member of the Tory > shadow cabinet), and arguably the most handsome leonine bloke in Australia > (outside of Neighbours Stefan Dennis). He lived the life - celeb > girlfriends, "my drug hell", sparring with paparrazzi and wore the trousers > (you never know when you're going to need a belt), but it was clear that > underneath the trappings, Hutchence was still Sydney's Nick Lowe at heart. > > Also in the magazine MH appears in an article entitled when rock stars > attack. > > That's all for now > > Tony > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 15:39:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:38:05 EDT From: RStreeting@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me I saw the Go-Go's at Radio City Music Hall, whatever year it was I believe it was INXS' first tour in the U.S. INXS (whose name I had learned to pronounce by then) opened the show. My most enduring memory of their set was by the send of the show a group of fans had jumped on to the stage to be closer to Michael. Some things never changed! I had been aware of them from "The One Thing" on and always liked them - anyone who listens to radio in Los Angeles could hardly help but hear and be aware of them. I always loved the videos and their music but something really kicked in big time once again when Elegantly Wasted was released and I went to see the band four times. The first I ever heard of them was in a letter to me from their publicist, who I knew from her other clients Men At Work. She mentioned being excited to work with a new band, INXS. I looked at the name and wondered "what kind of name is INKS?", which was the only way I could work out how to pronounce it. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 17:29:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:20:05 EDT From: Erinxs@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me, or... Arguing and a new topic. Well.... I had Listen Like Thieves and Kick in my possession for about a year before I purchased The Kick Flick in 1987. The videos on the Kick Flick were the first Inxs videos I had ever seen, and they were ultimately what got me hooked. Actually, it was Michael's gyrating that had me hooked, but I have always been a huge fan of the band as a whole. Coincidentally, I was 12 when I purchased the Kick Flick. What a great way to jump start puberty! Peace, Erin X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 22:56:25 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:52:52 -0300 From: "Danilo Meira" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC: Duran2 Videos on the Web Hi! This week on Broadcast.com there are some Duran2 videos to watch. The URL is: http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/musicvideo/pop/duranduran/ And the best of all is there! (Electric Barbarella) See Ya, Danilo Meira ================================== "Rebellious by nature, not by an option" Madreterra - Iron Horse "The Passion Lives To Keep The Faith Though All Are Different, All Are Great" INXS - The Stairs In the memory of The Loved One: Michael Hutchence Visit Elegantly INXS: http://pagina.de/INXS ================================== X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Thu Jul 15 23:26:10 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:07:39 EDT From: LU4INXS@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: NIC Duran Duran Hi everybody. I met a guy from a tribute band to Duran Duran. They are called Planet Earth and they dress up like the guys. They have a webpage to get on their mailing list. But they are in Los Angeles. So, if anyone is interested - please let me know privately. Thanks. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 00:05:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: SHOWBIZKID@webtv.net (JOE HEILER) To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me Hi Again, Very interesting,as I said earlier my first encounter was as warm-up for the Kinks,a few months later was what I referred to at the time,an All Aussie venue,the guys were warming-up for Men at Work at the Mann Music Center,in Philly,about this time Men at Work controlled the air-waves,in other words you could not change the dial without hearing a Men at Work song,but in the few months that past and some additional radio play the time was ripe for INXS to step forward and be recognized and that they did,they fillled a huge void in my musical world which was created by a mindless act which I still call the assasination of John Lennon, I knew at this time after only seeing them play twice this group was something special and I don't think anybody reading this would disagree,by the way the first time I got to see Men at Work was as a warm-up for Fleetwood Mac at the Spectrum in Philly,again I thank you for your time hope to share some more memories soon. Joe X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 09:56:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 15 Jul 99 22:40:19 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: 2nd Non-annual great INXS giveaway! X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id JAA32523 Welcome to the second non-annual great INXS giveaway! For those of you who either weren't here or don't remember, about two years ago I hosted a contest in which cool INXS prizes were given away for free. Mostly I gave away several items which I had duplicates ofd. After having upgraded portions of my collection again, I now have more extra INXS items which I no longer have a need to hold on to. So I figure, why not relive the fun! Before we get in to all the prizes and the questions, lets set up the rules. 1) I, David C. Jones, get to be the final judge on any question or ruling regarding this contest. Entering costs you no money, so if you lose, you haven't really lost anything you didn't have before, except maybe a little of your time. I am open to corrections if my answers are wrong, but in the end, whatever I say, goes. If you don't like this rule, then simply don't play. 2) I reserve the right to disqualify any person for any reason I see fit. The only people I am likely to disqualify are people who I know already have massive collections and don't need to be handed out freebees. If you don't like this, see rule 1. 3) Each person playing will be given the opportunity to answer 36 questions. MOST questions have been assembled so that any fan can answer them. However, some questions have also been constructed to test your knowledge and others are just dang near impossible. To be as fair as possible, most questions revolve around songs off of studio albums. You will not be asked a question about a b-side without being told. Additionally, almost every answer can be found by either looking in the liner notes of your album sleeves or somewhere on Neil Kothari's site at http://www.inxsweb.com 4) You may use any resources you wish in order to answer the questions. Please remember to post your answers to me privately and not to the main list. If you do post your answers to the list, anybody is welcome to use your answers. However, to those wishing to steal from others, keep in mind you don't always know if the other person is right. 5) Each question is worth one point. All but one of the questions are divided into groups of five. With 36 questions this gives you seven sections of five question. Any person who gets all five questions correct in any given section wins a bonus point. This makes a total of 42 points (6 points X 7 sections) possible before arriving at the last question. 6) There is.... no rule six. 7) The final question is a "free response" question, meaning that there is no "correct" answer. The free response question may be awarded anywhere from 1 to 8 points as decided by me. Since its my stuff that is being given away, I think it is only fair that I be allowed to judge the quality of the answers. If you disagree with me, again, see rule one. Answers will be judged based asthetic value and wether or not they make sense grammatically. I will also probably lean towards answers which I think are funny, so humor never hurts. (Note that an 8 point answer plus the 42 points mentioned above yields a "perfect" score of 50 points.) All free response answers will be posted to the list for the public to laugh at... I mean, enjoy after the contest is over. 8) Entries must be _RECEIVED_ by 11:59 P.M. on Saturday July 31st, 1999. I will be scoring the entries on the following Sunday morning, so the only late entries I will accept will be those that make it to my inbox before I wake up in the morning. Also keep in mind that I live on the pacific coast in the states, so the deadline applies to my time zone, not yours. 9) Prizes will be awarded based on who gets the most points. In the event of a tie, the person with the highest score on the free response question will take precedence. In the event that these scores are also the same, I may use any means I feel are appropriate to break the tie. The person with the most points gets first pick one item out of the "goody bag". After they pick their prize, the runner up may pick any one item leftover in the goody bag. This continues on down the list until either the goody bag is empty or I decide to stop giving away prizes. I reserve the right to set a deadline for winners to choose their prizes once they have won. There will be at least five winners. Ok, so by now all of you are saying "Shut up Davy, just tell us what's in the goody bag!" Goody Bag contents: ------------------- Max Q on CD Shining Star US CD single (with three live tracks) Heaven Sent UK CD single INXSCD-19 (with three b-sides) Kiss the Dirt US 7" single 7-89418 (with two b-sides) What You Need US 12" single 86832 (with remixes of three different songs) WTWYA B-sides collection - this is a preburned CD containing most of the b-sides and remixes from the WTWYA singles. This is a CD of about 15 songs I made for personal use but will be reburning soon, so I no longer have a use for holding on to it. Track listing will be made available when the prizes are handed out. The Grand Prize (only one): Custom burned 74 minute audio CD with any INXS songs of your choosing from my collection. I may add more prizes before the end of the contest. Questions will be coming in the following post. Good Luck! Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 10:02:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 15 Jul 99 22:49:20 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Questions X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id KAA33223 Name that Tune: --------------- I'm going to give you a song lyric. You tell me which INXS song it came from. For example, if the clue is "Shaking all the babies", the answer would be "Biting Bullets". 01) "Almond Looks" 02) "It's a lizard in your hand" 03) "Chinese Envy" 04) "I Play Russian Roulette" 05) "Learn more about the Bohemian influence" Who sang it first? ------------------ The following songs have been covered by either the band or a member thereof. Tell me who the ORIGINAL singer of each of these covers is. 06) Revolution 07) Born to be Wild 08) The Loved One 09) The Passenger 10) Jackson Gary or Not Gary ---------------- I'll name something related to INXS, you tell me if Gary was involved or not. 11) Fish in Space 12) Mudhead 13) Sweet as Sin 14) Begotten 15) The Dropbears What was that again? -------------------- I'm going to give you the name of a song, but its not really the name that you are used to seeing. Instead of the actual song title, words within the title have been replaced with their possibile definitions. For example, if the clue is "Hopes placed within a container full of water" I am describing the title "Wishing Well". Take the definitions below and tell me which song title they describe. 16) Foul tasting emissions of water from they eyes 17) A Triumverant of female siblings 18) Prevent the misplacement of your cranium 19) Snip your floral arragements in a groundward direction 20) An evening of dissidence By the numbers -------------- All the questions in this section have something to do with numbers or counting. 21) What INXS song title has the fewest letters? 22) How many times does the word "gimme" appear in the song "Deliver Me"? 23) Only one INXS song actually contains a numeral its title. By "numeral" I mean an actual number, not the name of the number spelled out. Name the song (Hint: its a B-side). 24 & 25) There are only two songs in the INXS catalog that start with the letter R. Name them. Song Title Anagrams: -------------------- What is an anagram? An anagram is when you take the letters of a word or group of words and rearrage them to make new words. For example, If you look at the two words "He Fight", the letters can be rearranged to spell "The Gift". Take the anagrams listed below and tell me what the original INXS song title is. 26) A Bonus 27) Dream Section 28) As Wet In Neons 29) Her Heat Skeet 30) Go Mute Hot Nine Random Questions ---------------- 31) Bonus Anagram! Its not a song title, but definitely something you are familiar with: Not Like Hair 32) Only one song has been remixed in the studio by a member of the band. Name the song. 33) Who is Charlie Musselwhite? 34) Where was Michael on his 31st birthday? 35) What is Davy's Favorite INXS B-side? Free Response ------------- If INXS were an acronym, what would it stand for? For those that don't know, an acronymn is were a word represents the initials of the item it represents. For example, SCUBA really stands for Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus. Because there are so few words that begin with the letter X, I will allow some leeway here. So one possible acronym for INXS could be Icelanding Neanderthals eXamining the Sea. You may submit one, two, or three acronyms, but no more than three. Each entry will be scored on a eight point basis and the best score of the three will be used. Again, good luck and don't forget to send your answers PRIVATELY to me at Dav3yQ@usa.net Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 10:48:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:48:33 +0200 From: "Mario Ferrari" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Pressrelease from Kelland Hutchence Hi all "An important announcement from Kelland Hutchence can be found at http://www.citylink.ch/rockline/inxs/html/pressrelease.htm Mario X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 13:09:06 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 05:59:56 -0800 From: "xs" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS Sheet Music X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id NAA58703 G'day As a (very) amatuer musician I have collected a few songbooks and so far I have found: X, EW, Greatest Hits and the Rock score. The Greatest hits book is a beauty: Just keep walking The Loved One Don't change Burn for you Original sin I send a maessage This time Kiss the dirt Listen like thieves Need you tonight Mediate Devil Inside New sensation Never tear us apart Suicide blonde Disappear Heaven sent The Gift The strangest party Deliver me So as you can see it has a good range of songs. I reckon it'd be great if they released all of their albums as sheet music especiall SS or The Swing. XS X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 13:31:14 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:19:21 +0930 From: Spyro Bouras To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: What grabbed me Hi All, Well where do I start? I was in high school and INXS was released.They showed the "Just Keep Walking"vid on Countdown and I was hooked.Then came "Underneath the Colours" which blew me away.Saw them on that tour at a local hotel called the Hendon and since then I caught them at every tour.......the good concerts@ Memorial Drive/Old Lion amd the truly awful venue at the Showgrounds which made the whole sound crappy. Micheal sure had a presence on stage but the thing that got me was the rest of the band combined and that full on live sound. We have been truly spoiled here in Australia with many such great bands.....The Oils,Cold Chisel,Crowded House(New Zealanders),Icehouse(The Man of Colours tour was Brilliant),The Angels,Real Life!!!!-I hear what you say but they played one of my all time fav gigs at the Findon etc etc....I could go on but you all know what I mean. And let me say that the Sydney gig the other week was fantastic.That sound was awsome and TTD did well too. Chow for now Spyro X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 13:52:28 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:47:01 PDT From: "Heidi J." To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Question I have a question...do you ever get post from the remaining members of INXS? Just wondering...cause i think i would be psyched to find a message from them...that they sent to the list!! Heidi X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 14:46:38 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 16 Jul 99 11:30:48 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Question] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id OAA71495 Unfortunately, no, I've never had contact with a band member. I shook Michael's hand once at a concert, but that was about it. Any communications with INXS so far have been only through David Edwards and Mary. But it would be nice to hear from one of them. davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Fri Jul 16 19:13:09 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:02:18 PDT From: "Hans Berchtold" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: FOR INXS-WEBSITE-OWNERS ! HELLO MICHAEL HUTCHENCE & INXS WEBSITE-OWNERS ! JOIN THE BRANDNEW WEBRING "SUPERSTARS". I ALLOW ALL TRIBUTEWEBSITES, TO THE 12 ARTISTS, WHICH ARE ON MY HOMEPAGE "SUPERSTARSTRIBUTE" MENTIONED. http://www.bomis.com/rings/superstars --------------------------------------------------- Check out my website: http://home.az-online.net/~superstarstribute/index.htm Great weekend to all of you ! Hans X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 09:53:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 16 Jul 99 18:07:37 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Contest correction! X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id JAA59489 For those of you who are playing in the 2nd non-annual great INXS giveaway, there is already a correction which needs to be made: Question 27 in the anagrams section is listed as: Dream Section. The actual clue should be: I Dream Section. (Thanks Kel!) Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 10:50:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:07:20 +0000 From: Deep Sea Skiving To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Inxs control over web sites INXS control over Web sites! What sort of control do INXS want over fans web sites? Do they just want sites that DO NOT contain Mp3's or are their other guidelines? Since I have an INXS page in the works I would appreciate any additional info. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 11:15:06 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:13:52 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Inxs control over web sites >What sort of control do INXS want over fans web sites? Do they just >want sites that DO NOT contain Mp3's or are their other guidelines? That is exactly what I am waiting for being told as well. I asked Matthew several times, because he mentioned the "rules", but didn't receive a reply as of yet. Anyway, I understand the whole MP3-issue, just wanted to make that clear, it's not about arguing. Still waiting for a clear announcement. Markus X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 12:22:53 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:21:25 -0500 From: Heidi Beaulieu To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Contest correction! David Jones wrote: > The actual clue should be: I Dream Section. > Yeah, it isn't me!!! That was the only anagram I hadn't figured out....and I'm terrible at 'em! Now, how about a hint on #31? Like animal, vegetable, or mineral??? Heidi B. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 13:27:24 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:23:55 -0500 From: Teresa Velasquez To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS on today's Baywatch.... Hi All, Disclaimer #1: I do NOT watch Baywatch. I just happened to stumble past it while flipping channels..... :) As I was flipping channels this morning, I passed a channel that had a woman fighting a man on a beach. As I hit the next channel, I thought I heard a very familiar tune. I flipped back to the beach scene, and sure enough, these two were battling to the tune of "Girl On Fire"! I guess they were doing a training scene, because then the girl was wearing a flame retardant suit. They lit her on fire, and she was running around in 'baywatch slow motion" to the part that goes "Burn, Burn, Burn". They played a good portion of the song. It was just wild to catch it on a show like Baywatch. -Teresa X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 14:12:57 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Mary's back again >INXS control over Web sites! >What sort of control do INXS want over fans web sites? Do they just >want sites that DO NOT contain Mp3's or are their other guidelines? >Since I have an INXS page in the works I would appreciate any additional >info. Hi all, (another long one.... sorry!) As I said in my message a few days ago, there will be guidelines coming soon. The new web company is putting together a production plan and schedule and with my (our) input, determining what will be on inxs.com. I just don't know when it will be. These wheels have always moved very slowly, as most you all know, but it will be happening sooner rather than later. There seems to be so much confusion and distress! The only major issue has been MP3s, you guys! If you're unsure about what you should or should not put on your sites, why don't you just EMAIL ME directly with a list of what you plan to do and I'll let you know if it's ok? Inxs.com has been in existence for 5 years, so it's not like there's nobody home here. I'm just a mouse click away. Even inxsweb.com has an agreement to let management know what he plans to put up before he does it. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't happen, well, then problems can and do crop up. Over the years, many people emailed first to ask permission to post stuff and I've always said yes. Except for one bozo who wanted to have Michael's image and bio on his sensationalistic site showing people who died from auto-erotic asphixiation, which the corner said he didn't die from. But at least he asked first! Some have even shown us a prototype before they launch. I know this may sound trite, but the truth is all you have to do is ask first, it's a courtesy thing. People seem to think they can just do what ever they want because it's the internet and then balk later when they're told they shouldn't have done certain things in the first place. Yes, I know guidelines are sketchy, but you know, just practice some common sense. Everybody should ask first about posting ANY kind of music or video or sensitive and outrageous material (of which there is very little about INXS anyway). It's wrong-headed to call this censorship. When most the webmasters originally put up their pages, the manager at the time hardly even knew where the stupid button was to turn on a computer much less knew how to address this big black hole universe. So webmasters were not approached or monitored and things just went kind of rampant. I know there's been quite a bit of bad blood spilled recently and I for one really regret that. Current management has a low tolerance, it's pretty cut and dry with them about their copyrights. What makes the situation worse is webmasters then having a bad attitude once they're approached and either asked or told to remove stuff. Assume if you're ASKED, that means they want you to do it or they wouldn't be asking. The management doesn't want to get into debates about this stuff. They have other work to do. I got very little response from the 300 people on this list and I have a question for you before I unlist. What do you want on inxs.com (or are you all so soured on us that you want nothing at all?.. I sincerely hope not). My dream has always been to have the cyber fans participate and be a part of the official site... afterall you are the bands community and their major support system on the web. Inxs.com will have lots of stuff you've never seen or heard before and new products available down the road, but what do you want to see and participate in when you visit inxs.com? I've been assigned the 'content producer' for the revamped site and my task is to give you what you want. I'm also your only advocate and will carry your voices back to management and the web company. Quite frankly, I feel we can't do a good job without your specific input, support and enthusiasm and I need your help. Let's get some lively ideas thrown around and bring back some positive energy and inspiration to INXS on the web! Cheers, Mary Woods in2xs@inxs.com PS. I agree with Karen G. about INXS being one of the most respectful bands around when it comes to their fans (thanks, Karen!). In the 7 years I've known them, it always amazed me how EXTREMELY generous, loving and kind they ALWAYS were to people at concerts, events, parties and meet and greets... giving free tickets, backstage passes, never saying no to a request for an autograph or personal photo. To slag them off now because of some misperceptions about wanting to protect themselves on the internet is really kind of insulting and mean-spirited, in my humble opinion. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 14:21:25 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:14:56 -0400 From: liberty-outpost@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: The B-Sides and the Stadium Gig Hey all, I have the complete B-Sides for trade or sale. I have two different sets. The first is a two CDr Set of only INXS material that I can burn for you. I also have a set of 3 cassettes which also contains all the Michael Hutchence solo songs, except two (from a Richard Clapton album called Glory Road which is out of print). Email me privately if you are interested. I will not be able to do it until I return from vacation 3 August. STADIUM GIG I got the Stadium gig back from the converters. It is absolutely astounding! There are news clips with interviews by Tim, Kirk and TTD himself. There is a clip of them practicing in the same studio where the band played with and saw Michael for the last time. And then there is the show itself. This is really the best live band in the world. They are so tight and so into what they're doing. The crowd is losing its mind. It's hard to believe there's going to be a soccer game later. And TTD is sometimes eerily like Michael. I can see why they chose him. His interpretation of the music is quite interesting. INXS is so fresh and raring to go in this short outing, I can't believe they won't be back on the road shortly. They are having so much fun playing it is just wonderful to see. Also, please note this if you have sent me a tape. What I have is the gig shot by a fan, and one pro-shot song, What You Need, later shown on TV. The other three songs are in the mail to me and should be here Monday or Tuesday. I want to have them converted and add them to the tape, but I am going away for ten days, so the earliest I could then send the tapes out would be 5 August. If you do not want to wait for the entire thing, email me privately and I will just send you what I have now. My advice is, wait for the final product, because this is a pretty amazing gig and you will want the whole thing! Leah X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 15:52:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 17 Jul 99 12:49:04 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Mary's back again] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id PAA84681 in2xs@inxs.com wrote: > There seems to be so much confusion and distress! The only major issue > has been MP3s, you guys! The ONLY issue? In your last post you admitted that you asked Neil to take down material which the band was "sensitive" about. I expressed my concerns to you over this comment and you don't appear to have addressed them. > I know there's been quite a bit of bad blood spilled recently and I for > one really regret that. Current management has a low tolerance, it's > pretty cut and dry with them about their copyrights. Its pretty cut and dry that they OWN the copyright, but it isn't cut and dry as to how far we are allowed to push those copyrights. You stated yourself that we could trade b-sides on tapes. This is no less of a copyright violation than what I was doing with my MP3 server. So obviously management is going to bend the rules in some situations. Until we are told when and how and where those rules are going to be bent, this situation is far from "cut and dry". > What makes the situation worse is webmasters then having a bad attitude > once they're approached and either asked or told to remove stuff. I certainly hope that this commment isn't addressed to me. Throughout this entire ordeal I have done everything that has been asked of me, as quickly as possible by me, and in the most polite way I know how to do it. Yet the only thing I have received in return is rudeness and unanswered questions. I am trying to cooperate, but until I get some direct answers addressing my concerns, I have no reason to beleive that management is trying to cooperate. > I got very little response from the 300 people on this list and I have > a question for you before I unlist. What do you want on inxs.com (or > are you all so soured on us that you want nothing at all?.. I sincerely > hope not). What I am soured about is that I have been nothing but courteous and polite towards management since this issue started, yet the responses I have received have been rude. Additionally, when I have asked questions, I don't seem to get answers. Sure, I did something that was wrong and I have no problem admitting that. But that doesn't excuse management from foul behaviour. > My dream has always been to have the cyber fans participate and be a > part of the official site... afterall you are the bands community and > their major support system on the web. Inxs.com will have lots of stuff > you've never seen or heard before and new products available down the > road, but what do you want to see and participate in when you visit > inxs.com? I want to see the opportunity for people to see and hear things that they don't normally have the opportunity to hear. Despite the size of my collection, there are songs I haven't heard like Jackson. People who live in the states (and elsewhere) are literally BEGGING to have an opportunity to see/hear the Terrance Trent D'Arby show. I want the band to talk to us. Maybe see if you can schedule a chat room session with one of the band members every three or four months. I know that on the official R.E.M. site that the band is sending postcards from most of their tour stops to the webmaster to post for the fans to read. An occasional note saying "Hi guys! This is what we're up to." from the band would be nice. I want to know what the band is actually DOING these days. You have this sample on INXS.COM of Garry's Mudhead project, but there are a lot of fans out there who don't even know what Mudhead is. I don't even have a clue if Andrew or Kirk or any of the Farris brothers are making any music these days aside from this new studio album we've heard rumors about. If it hadn't been for Neil, I never would have know that Red Hill was released. I want to be able to hear about information as it is happening, not second or third hand two months after the fact. > PS. I agree with Karen G. about INXS being one of the most respectful > bands around when it comes to their fans (thanks, Karen!). In the 7 > years I've known them, it always amazed me how EXTREMELY generous, > loving and kind they ALWAYS were to people at concerts, events, parties > and meet and greets... giving free tickets, backstage passes, never > saying no to a request for an autograph or personal photo. To slag them > off now because of some misperceptions about wanting to protect > themselves on the internet is really kind of insulting and mean- > spirited, in my humble opinion. You have a valid point, but you are detracting from the issue. I'm not slagging off the band for protecting their copyright, I'm slagging off the band's management for the manner and attitude in which they are going about doing it. I have sent several apologies to Dave Edwards privately. I have also sent an apology to you, Mr. Edwards, and everyone within management circles openly on this list. I don't see how this constitues being "insulting and mean-spirited". On the other hand, I haven't even gotten something so little as an "apology accepted" note from anyone on your side. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 16:14:11 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:13:00 -0300 From: "Webmasters Live INXS Live!" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Live INXS Live! Hello friends... After a long long time, we have just finished our little INXS site. It's called Live INXS Live!. If you like to visit it, the URL is http://liveinxslive.cjb.net or http://members.xoom.com/lil2/index.htm Let us know what you think about it... thanks. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 16:32:33 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 17 Jul 99 13:38:25 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: [Contest correction!] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id QAA87230 Heidi Beaulieu wrote: > Yeah, it isn't me!!! That was the only anagram I hadn't figured > out....and I'm terrible at 'em! Now, how about a hint on #31? Like > animal, vegetable, or mineral??? Now, it wouldn't be fair for me to give you a clue and not anyone else would it? All I'm going to say is that its something you'll find at www.inxsweb.com Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 18:24:55 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: My response to David's post >in2xs@inxs.com wrote: >> There seems to be so much confusion and distress! The only major issue >> has been MP3s, you guys! > >The ONLY issue? In your last post you admitted that you asked Neil to take >down material which the band was "sensitive" about. I expressed my concerns >to you over this comment and you don't appear to have addressed them. >snip> David, Neil was asked to remove 2 news items. 1) the sticky bit about internal management changes which is no one's business and has no place on a fan's website about the band (it's suppose to be about entertainment, if you catch my drift) and 2) any support or reference about Vince Lovegrove's book which the band did not want any mention of on any INXS websites for legal (and yes personal) reasons, which again is no one's business why. Enough said. He was asked to remove them AFTER posting and he did. Why do you care anyway? That's between Neil and the band, not you. >Its pretty cut and dry that they OWN the copyright, but it isn't cut and dry >as to how far we are allowed to push those copyrights. You stated yourself >that we could trade b-sides on tapes. This is no less of a copyright >violation than what I was doing with my MP3 server >snip>. Oh come on, David, give this one a break. Yes, trading tapes is technically copyright infringement and done since the advent of the tape recorder, but NOT the same thing as posting MP3s on the internet without permission and you know it. Tell you what, I will check with the copyright police and get back to you about it. OK? Yes, it would be good to have some clarification. >> What makes the situation worse is webmasters then having a bad attitude >> once they're approached and either asked or told to remove stuff. > >trying to cooperate, but until I get some direct answers addressing my >concerns, I have no reason to beleive that management is trying to cooperate. >snip> You're situation has been addressed privately to you. Please take this one off the list and address me personally if you must. >What I am soured about is that I have been nothing but courteous and polite >towards management since this issue started, yet the responses I have received >have been rude. Additionally, when I have asked questions, I don't seem to >get answers. Sure, I did something that was wrong and I have no problem >admitting that. But that doesn't excuse management from foul behaviour. >snip> Again, your situation has been addressed to you privately, David. But please email me PRIVATELY with specific questions since it seems you still have more to ask. I'm sorry if each one has not been answered suffiently. I don't want this to drag on and become an open forum on the list, so please take it OFF the list and we'll communicate privately. I'm actually not sure specifically what you need to know right now anyway. Please itemize each question. OK? Thanks! >I want to see the opportunity for people to see and hear things that they >don't normally have the opportunity to hear. Despite the size of my > snip> Now this is EXCELLENT!!!!!!! This is exactly what we need! Thanks, David! Lots of great ideas here and I'll throw them into the mix. I too, want the band to take a hands-on approach, that's why I encouraged them to work with a company in Sydney so they can literally go to the design studio, sit their butts down at the computers and do some serious communicating in real time. If I could drag them into the studio, I would, believe me, but I'm half a world away. I can only push for what we want. They're the ones who have to agree and physically do it. I can only hope they do after you all get behind it. So show your support folks!! It really will make a difference. I forgot to address a concern someone had about why announcements weren't made about events in enough time for people to make plans to go. In the case of the Mushroom gig.... they literally decided to do it less than 2 days before the event. I was in Australia at the time and didn't even know about it! And like all entertainment and media outlets, they won't go announcing an event or confirming rumors until the contracts have been signed and press releases sent out. This is the common way it's done in the entertainment industry. For the Stadium gig, it was just a rumor until the press release went out in late May, when it is announced officially. You guys got to hear it before anyone else in the world, thanks to Neil being so on top of it and having excellent sources. Actually I think management gave him that press release to post. Don't know about that other event, sorry. As you know, inxs.com was never a resource for information, but Neil certainly has. And, you guys DO hear about stuff before anyone else in the world anyway! And it's in large part due to Neil's incredible dedication and updating his Latest News regularly. >and mean-spirited". On the other hand, I haven't even gotten something so >little as an "apology accepted" note from anyone on your side. >snip> EEgads, David, you are SO touchy! Why do you think this is all directed at you? It's comments to specific people who were treated VERY kindly by the band and their reps while on tour, who said some pretty nasty things on this list recently. I don't need to mention names, all you have to do is read the recent posts. Enough said! Cheers, Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 18:34:05 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:30:56 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Need You Tonight/Meditate(???)Pop Up Video For those of you who live in an area where you do not receive VH1 or its Pop Up Video show, here's what "pops up" in the bubbles throughout the Need You Tonight/Mediate (somehow, this got through the entire production process as "Meditate", I guess that's an indication of how many INXS fans work at VH1!) video: INXS NEED YOU TONIGHT/MEDITATE KICK Atlantic Records l987 Directed by Richard Lowenstein Lead singer Michael Hutchence was exposed to Plague on the set of this video- Plague was the pet of Michael's brother who was visiting the set. The video's stylist thought he (MH) looked cool. The video's cool look was made by editing film footage and still images. The stills were taken from the footage, made into color copies, then animated. Need You Tonight and Meditate are two separate songs. They "run together" on the album. INXS has often said they had "run ins" with each other while recording. They've said they needed one thing in the studio: a referee (pointing to Jon in referee shirt). They've also compared some of their most difficult sessions to "wars". (points to band wearing anti-war slogan t-shirts). Michael Hutchence died on November 21 (?), l997. Place: Sydney, Australia. Michael was discovered hanging in his hotel room by a chamber maid. The official coroner's report stated suicide as the cause of death. Michael's girlfriend at the time was British TV personality Paula Yates. Despite the coroner's report, Paula believed Michael died of auto-erotic asphyxiation. Auto-erotic asphyxiation (noun): attempting to increase sexual pleasure by strangulation. Paula claims auto erotica lead to Michael's death because he "liked to try everything". Some things Michael tried: straight one-on-one sex, orgies, sex with more than one woman, psychological sex games, voyeurism, swinging, S&M bondage, auto erotica. What did Michael confide to friends in the months leading up to his death? (just as Michael sings "I'm Lonely"). Michael has said that one auto-driven act made him feel lonelier than any other: touring. Michael needed a crew member from this video on the night he died. She was an ex girlfriend- Michael called and asked her to visit at the hotel. She said he was crying and "sounded drunk". By the time she got to the hotel he was already dead. INTERMISSION (flashes) INTERMISSION INTERMISSION The director divided this video into two parts, one for each of the run-together songs. Part II- MEDITATE The band was given one direction: don't block Michael. (just as a band member moves in front of Michael). They were also directed to flip the cards to the rhythm of the song. One band member had trouble keeping the rhythm-the drummer. Part II is an homage to Bob Dylan's l965 short film, "Subterranean Homesick Blues". "SBH" was filmed in one shot- so was Part II- Five Times. The cards were written by the art director on the morning of the shoot. She used phonetic spelling and symbols to make them easier to read. This coal refinery is in Newcastle, Australia, a mining town where the band had just performed. The director chose the refinery for its "gritty industrial" look. (points to "real grit"). Prolonged exposure to real grit can lead to pneumoconiosis, or 'Black Lung' disease. Black Lung sufferers experience a variety of symptoms. They often: Aspirate, Expectorate, Regurgitate. Doctors suggest Black Lung sufferers undergo a variety of treatment: Medicate, Ventilate, Exsufflate. Or they may come to an 'unkind' end: Asphyxiate. Paula Yates and the coroner remain divided over the case of Michael's death. Michael is divided too- his ashes were split up by his mother, his father, and Paula. Only his father has told what he did with his share- they were sprinkled over Sydney Harbor. *Immediately following this video on this particular Pop Up show was a video for Kylie Minogue's Loco-Motion. There was some mention made of Michael here, too: One year after doing this video, Kylie became involved with someone 'big down under"- Michael Hutchence. Critics noted Kylie's "good girl" image began to change after dating Michael (an image of "before Michael" Kylie is sweet, "after Michael" Kylie is seductive.) After breaking up with Michael Hutchence, Kylie became involved with Lenny Kravitz. I hope this helps. If anyone at all is interested, I'll post the "bubbles" for Devil Inside and/or Never Tear Us Apart. Just let me know, and I'll work on it soon. Take care and have a great weekend, Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 19:45:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:42:01 From: Sue To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again at 11:12 AM 7/17/99 -0700, in2xs@inxs.com said: >There seems to be so much confusion and distress! The only major issue has >been MP3s, you guys! If you're unsure about what you should or should not >put on your sites, why don't you just EMAIL ME directly with a list of what >you plan to do and I'll let you know if it's ok? But if MP3s are the only major issue, then why should we have to check with inxs.com? And if MP3 is the only major issue, then what are the minor issues? >So webmasters were not >approached or monitored and things just went kind of rampant. We're running rampant with what??? See, this is the kind of talk that is driving me up the wall, across the ceiling and down the other side. With the exception of a couple of sites (which are now down) there are no mp3s (that I'm aware of). This is hardly what I would call running rampant. The only thing I saw running rampant was the love of a band. -- Sue sue@mdc.net http://www.mdc.net/~sue In my cd player: China Drum - Self Made Maniac X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 22:06:41 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:03:29 -0500 From: Sherry To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again > Inxs.com has been in > existence for 5 years, so it's not like there's nobody home here. I'm just > a mouse click away. Even inxsweb.com has an agreement to let management > know what he plans to put up before he does it. I just have a small comment to make. INXS.com has been around, yes, but has offered almost nothing during this time. Inxs.web has always provided everything we needed and I, at times, have wondered why it wasn't just made the official site. But, it seems, that while Neil's site and all others were doing the job that inxs.com should have been doing, now that it's going to be up and running suddenly there are going to be "guidelines" for people to follow? So all the work has already been done on the net... by fans, lovers of INXS who created wonderful pages and kept us informed out of sheer devotion to this band and inxs.com is coming along to offer us what? Stuff that personal homepages will no longer be allowed to provide. Maybe I'm missing something here or taking things too seriously, but how is this fair and what sense does it make? Sherrianne X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 23:25:48 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: 17 Jul 99 20:25:21 PDT From: David Jones To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Questions about the competition. X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp-2.mdc.net id XAA13427 Hey all! Vicky asked me a few questions about the contest and I didn't think it was fair to just tell her only. Vicky Prowse wrote: > > Hi Davy > > just a couple of quick questions > 1) for q23 do roman numerals count? Umm, no. I'm not sure that this would make a difference anyway unless you were thinking of Here Comes II? (which is not the answer) > 2) are all the answers available on the net? (including your fav b > side!!) Every answer can be found on Neil's website or in the liner notes for the studio albums. Even "what my favorite b-side is" can be found somewhere on Neil's site, although you're going to have one hell of a time finding it. Davy X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 23:46:18 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:44:28 EDT From: RStreeting@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My response to David's post In a message dated 7/17/99 3:29:57 PM, in2xs@inxs.com writes: <> It still does come off smacking a bit of censorship to the casual reader and makes me, for one, more than a little uncomfortable. People are most likely going to read that book if they want to and since the book is out there in public to be told not to make any mention of it sounds suspiciously like being told what to do. Not being very involved in all this, this post surprised me and gave me pause. Everything that is going on now is having a profound impact on my feelings about INXS fandom. I have to say I am disappointed by the tone around here lately, from the "other side." It's beginning to sound somewhat "us against them." Sad. X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sat Jul 17 23:51:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again >> Inxs.com has been in >> existence for 5 years, so it's not like there's nobody home here. I'm just >> a mouse click away. Even inxsweb.com has an agreement to let management >> know what he plans to put up before he does it. > >I just have a small comment to make. INXS.com has been around, yes, but has >snip> >Sherrianne Thanks Sherrianne for the thoughtful message. You do bring up an age old concern and I follow exactly what you're saying. As hard as I tried over the years to get the band to actually participate in inxs.com, they just couldn't, didn't or wouldn't for a variety of reasons. It was always a "great idea, Mary" but I had no control over them actually participating in something that was fundamentally theirs. I know you Sherrianne, of all people, knows this. I will not apologize on their behalf or fault them in any way over this, it just is. That's the way it goes. I will not second guess them and their motives. Neil's site was not made the official site, because INXS owns their domain name, it's called: inxs.com. And when they were ready, they would launch it. Yes it's taking a long time, but who are we to say when they SHOULD do anything just because WE'RE ready??? They'll do it when THEY see fit. Nobody is diminishing the love and support Neil has shown over the years, he's been a fundamental part of INXS on the internet and he knows the band is grateful for that. It's important to remember that all webmasters choose ON THEIR OWN to launch their sites without agreement and verbal or contractual input from the management and band members themselves. I'm not suggesting that was necessary, considering the lack of involvement by the band. Of course they appreciate the dedication, but they didn't ask people to do these webpages. So, the band's not under any obligations, you know? As far as what inxs.com can offer..... well certainly a lot, simply because it's the band themselves. It comes back to the same question I have...... What exactly do you want to see?? Let's be constructive and proactive here and tell me what you want! Cheers, Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 09:57:36 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:28:34 -0700 From: Mike Chen To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: ordering stuff Hi Mary, it's been a while! Sorry this isn't the bitter, bickering kind of email that seems to be going around way too much these days. Anyways, I was wondering if I could order via email one of the t-shirts with my credit card. I just think it'd be easier. Please let me know, thanks and take care. Mike Chen X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 12:36:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My response to David's post >In a message dated 7/17/99 3:29:57 PM, in2xs@inxs.com writes: > ><It still does come off smacking a bit of censorship to the casual reader and >makes me, for one, more than a little uncomfortable. People are most likely >going to read that book if they want to and since the book is out there in >public to be told not to make any mention of it sounds suspiciously like >being told what to do. Good point, . Not sure what I can say about that really and I don't disagree with you. I don't profess to always understand why myself. But there are reasons. Actually, I was curious about the status of this book, since it's not been released in the UK or US (only in OZ in bookstores.. I saw many when I was there), and just checked Amazon.com to find it's status is: not available. Please check it out at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1864488948/qid=932276584/sr=1-2/002-6 533955-0490614 >Not being very involved in all this, this post surprised me and gave me >pause. Everything that is going on now is having a profound impact on my >feelings about INXS fandom. > >I have to say I am disappointed by the tone around here lately, from the >"other side." It's beginning to sound somewhat "us against them." Sad. Sorry you feel this way. That is not my intention. The reference to 'other side' is a simple way of saying I wasn't on the list previously and am trying to bring a voice from a place you guys haven't heard from. What does surprise me is the lack of input and interest from the majority of people on this list. Did everybody clam up because I showed up? Is this a freeze-out, silent protest, or what? Cheers, Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 12:42:23 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: ordering stuff >Hi Mary, it's been a while! Sorry this isn't the bitter, bickering kind of >email that seems to be going around way too much these days. Anyways, I was >wondering if I could order via email one of the t-shirts with my credit >card. I just think it'd be easier. Please let me know, thanks and take care. > >Mike Chen Whew, a breath of light (and I don't mean that because you want to buy something!). Can you tell me what is going on with these people on the list? I am truly mystified and wonder what I can do to patch things up. Anyway, you can email your credit card details, but it's not a secure transaction so there's a risk some stupid hacker will intercept your numbers in transit. Better to fax it to: 415-821-4695. Just let me know what you want to do. Thanks, Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 14:29:28 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:47:31 +0200 From: "Markus Pfeffer" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again Hi Mary! >What exactly do you want to see?? Here is my input: 1) Videos which can't be found on any compilations like: - Bitter tears - the non-single "FMDH"-videos - the "EW"-videos (Real Video in good quality would be ok, MPEG probably better) 2) Pictures and/or audio/video from concerts Like from South Africa and Canada, Germany etc., gigs you couldn't find much on the net so far 3) Some info on unreleased tracks like: Who is singing "It ain't easy"? etc. (THE question! LOL!) 4) Infos on what the band is doing recently I have more ideas, but it's still very early here! ;-) Markus X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 14:43:00 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:41:16 EDT From: DTKArk@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Never Tear Us Apart: Pop Up Video By popular demand.......... POP UP VIDEO: NEVER TEAR US APART INXS Prague, Czechoslovokia, l989 The director chose Prague because INXS was touring Europe at the time. They also shot videos for New Sensation and Guns In The Sky at the same time. Filmed over 3 "very cold" overcast December days. Kirk- guitar and sax (walks by). Local Prague violin trio (seated). Michael Hutchence born: Jan 22, l960. Place: Sydney, Australia. While in high school, Hutchence became lead singer of a family band called the Farriss Brothers. (pictures of Tim, Jon, and Andrew pop up). They renamed the band INXS "because it sounded cool". A local Prague ballerina (in the video). Both the producer and Michael had crushes on her by the end of the shoot. Hutchence was hit by a car in Copenhagen in l994. The Cars' Rick Ocasek is Czech and is married to Czech supermodel Paulina. Hutchence proposed to Danish supermodel Helena Christianson on their first date. Noy is no in Danish. (The) Charles Bridge (was) built in 1357. (As an old man turns around): Local actor the director hired because he "looked so Czech". They had a difficult time getting film permits to shoot all over Prague. Prague officials forbade them to bring cameras into the cemetery. So they had a crane sent in from Munich to get this shot outside the cemetery gates. President Clinton played his sax at Prague's Reduta Club in l994. The band complained that the Czech food was awful but the vodka was very cheap. Jon, the drummer, got so drunk he passed out in their hotel elevator. He woke up with the elevator doors opening and closing on his head. Jon was so hungover, he missed a day of shooting and is barely in this video. The director noticed security cameras in the hotel elevator where Jon passed out. He asked the manager if he could have the tape to use footage of the drunken incident in the video. The Czech hotel denied any surveillance was in use. Coming soon........ Devil Inside Pop Up video Take care, Dennis X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 15:00:34 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 02:03:11 -0700 From: Winnie4 To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again/JFK Jr Hi all, Well, first off I just wanted to say that maybe we could all keep the Kennedy family in our thoughts right now (as I'm sure some of you know, John F. Kennedy Jr's plane went down, he, his wife & sister-in-law are still missing). I don't really follow the Kennedy's but, it seems to me that this family has seen more than their fair share of tragedy and maybe we could all just hope for a miracle for them (as it evidently doesn't look good). On to INXS content: I haven't said anything about all that's been going on about the MP3's etc because 1) it really wasn't any of my business, although I did think it kinda stunk for Davy and 2) I had never downloaded an MP3 (even tho I DO have a CD burner). The only thing that I have to add is that I think it's a loss to the fans and I hope that inxs.com and/or their record label are planning something to make up for the loss. Davy was just making available some items that many fans (especially us in the US) were unable to hear any other way. As far as what we'd like to see on inxs.com? Well, I can't speak for those on the list, I can only speak for myself, and in all honesty, I'd just like to see SOMETHING. I agree with others who've stated that Neil's site has been the ONLY source of info for us fans for so long. Maybe that's why you (Mary) haven't received many suggestions, maybe others don't want to get their hopes up? I don't know, I agree with whoever said they'd like to see more info on what the individual band members are up to these days, we only get little blips from the "latest news" section on Neil's site, so it's usually whatever makes the newspapers. I think it would be nice if each of the band members, or a couple of them anyway, would just give a little paragraph every-so-often. Maybe a chat room and some scheduled chat's with a band member every month or two (someone else suggested that as well, great idea!!). Just some info!!! What are they up to? What is up with the new studio album? Are the supportive of Michael's solo album? Where are they hanging out lately? How do they feel about the reaction to the June 12th show? How do they feel about the events of the last 2 years (from EW to MH, to Tiger, to how are they dealing, to moving on, to what's next). I know that some of this is touchy, but I really want to know about these things, it's about concern and support for the guys. We really are desperate from anything from them, you would not believe the energy generated on this list when they played June 12th, good and bad, my mailbox had never been so full. I know that the band doesn't "technically" owe us anything, but I think we would all like a little reassurance that they know we're still here, and have been all along. We really just want our favorite band back, because (I'm pretty sure I can speak for most of the list on this one) WE LOVE AND MISS THEM!!! I don't know if any of this helps, who am I to tell you or the band what to do? Or to speak for anyone else on the list. These are just my thoughts on a few things. Well, that's all for me!! INXS forever!! Winnie :-) "What could be found in this sweet damaged smile?" - We Are Thrown Together X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 18:59:09 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:40:47 -0400 From: Neil Kothari To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: a voice from the other side Hey all, This is going to be a *very* long email, so grab a cup of coffee and have a seat. I'll address some of Mary's emails to the List in order. I'm sorry that I've been keeping a low profile on this whole issue, but it was a topic I had hoped could be worked out peacefully. That no longer really seems likely, so it's time I fully state my case to all of you. My perspective comes from being one of the first (if not the first) INXS fan on the web -- from creating the INXS email List to running An Excess of INXS (inxsweb.com) for five years. An Excess of INXS was the first INXS website, and continues to be the most visited INXS site on the internet. I've poured blood sweat and tears into helping INXS become established on the internet, and the band has always been thankful of my efforts. In the last two years since Michael's passing, I've personally helped hundreds of fans try to come to terms with the terrible tragedy. While the band maintained an eerie silence (one that mostly continues to this day), it's fans like myself that have helped keep the INXS flame alive. Let's face it -- INXS is not a popular band these days. They're considered an 80's act with a few big songs, but not much substance compared to bands like U2 or REM. I know, and all of you know, that this simply isn't true, but history is not proving to revise INXS' place in it. Basically, no one beyond a few thousand fans left cares about what happens to the band. I'm sorry to be so blunt but I'm trying to keep everything that's happening on the web in proper perspective. All one has to do is look at the paltry weekly sales figures for INXS' catalogue, and you'll see that things just aren't what they used to be for the band. And with Michael, the band's most charismatic figure, gone, it's difficult to imagine the band ever scaling the charts again like they did a decade ago. While the band remains in near-isolation, it's been up to fans like myself to make sure that INXS remains visible and that they receive their proper place in history. But times are changing, and the band has found itself with its *fourth* new management company in five years. This one seems to think that alienating us long-time fans and telling us what we can and cannot do on behalf of the band is a smart strategy that will increase the band's popularity. Huh? Yes, my sentiments exactly. It simply makes no sense. None of this current argument makes any sense when things are put in proper perspective. Rather than trying to work *with* fans, a relentless campaign of disrespect and rudeness has emanated from the INXS camp since the last change in management. I know -- I've been on the receiving end of much of it for the last six months. I've mostly kept quiet about it on the List because I didn't want to badmouth anyone related to INXS, and because I didn't think the List was a proper venue for working things out. But as time passes, and I continue to receive condescending emails, I'm slowly realizing that either 1) the band doesn't know what's going on here, 2) they don't care, or 3) they agree with the present tactic of alienating the only remaining fans they have left. Anyway you look at it, none of this makes sense. I have kept copies of every email I've received from those involved in management and under the Freedom of Information Act, I will have no problem with publishing some of the ridiculously disrespectful and rude comments that I've received on the List if management continues its harassment campaign. In the face of a growing backlash over the last few weeks, management has begun back-pedalling a tad. The "new" edict is that only MP3's are really being targetted, and that all other media (real audio, wav files, etc) are alright with them. In fact, Mary goes so far as to say it's okay if we continue sending bootlegs through the mail! Huh? So it's okay to illegally trade or sell boots (tapes, CDRs, whatever) via the mail, but it's extremely bad to keep a rare and out-of-print MP3 on the web to be downloaded by the few hundred remaining INXS fans? Is this making any sense to anyone yet? Are they so deluded to think that millions of fans are actually clamoring to download INXS MP3's and not the latest songs by more *popular* bands like (sic) the Backstreet Boys? I'm not trying to say that INXS doesn't maintain some semblance of a fan base -- of course they do -- but certainly not a significant one when compared to popular acts today. The amount of downloads from my site is miniscule at best, but in management's eyes, I'm committing some great evil. Go figure. The band's management claims that we're violating copyright and not respecting the band's ownership of its music by posting MP3's on our sites. Huh? By letting old fans hear rarities they can't get anywhere else without paying a fortune, or by letting newer fans develop a greater passion for INXS by hearing rare songs -- we're not respecting the band's ownership? First of all, I certainly haven't made a penny putting INXS songs on the web; if anything, I've *lost* money running my website. And I've always linked to online music stores where fans could legally *purchase* INXS' music that is still in print. I also don't recall the last time I attempted to say that an INXS MP3 file was not by INXS. :) But wait -- perhaps it's not simply a copyright issue after all. Though management denies it, is it a coincidence that now when a crackdown is in effect that inxs.com is about to open its new site? Hmm. I'm sure that inxs.com -- a site so bad it has always been a joke to INXS fans -- wants to improve its stature among fans. Why not make it a crime for other more established sites to compete by making them remove MP3's? Why not issue "guidelines" that each site has to follow if they intend on being part of this whole new inxs.com site? Why not say that sites that don't agree with the new policy will not receive a link on inxs.com? Yes, why not indeed. Bullshit. It's a fact that INXS has loooong been aware of MP3's on my site -- but it's only in the past two weeks that I've finally received orders to remove INXS MP3's. Why now? Why not when they first knew about it? What makes now any different? It's obvious that the return of inxs.com is the reason, no matter what copyright flag the management tries to wave. Another common line I've gotten from management on this copyright issue is that "this is the way the industry is moving." I can't totally argue with that -- the RIAA and the music industry in general is scared of the new MP3 technology because it's CD-quality. CD's can be burned from MP3's and that means lost revenues in album sales. BUT, this applies for *material that is still available*. This argument becomes moot with respect to the stuff we webmasters have been posting -- rare music that isn't available for sale. And according to the new edict, if we want to send tapes or CD-R's through the mail, hey -- that's okay. So again, logic doesn't seem to be part of management's thinking. I also wanted to re-address this line that "industry is moving in this direction." There are many many many acts that are not going along with their labels, the industry, or even their management and are encouraging the distribution of MP3's. "I want my music out there. Send it around, pass it around. I can keep making more". (Chuck D of Public Enemy) "I see this as an opportunity, not a problem". (Dexter Holland of The Offspring) Other artists that link to fan sites with multimedia clips include Fiona Apple, B52's, Bad Religion, Bline 182, Blur, Caroline's Spine, Catherine Wheel, Crash Test Dummies, Cred, Del Amitri, Dishwalla, Eels, Fastbacks, Fastball, Fig Dish, The Folk Implosion, Foo Fighters, Fun Lovin Criminals, Godsmack, Guided By Voices, Gwar, Korn, Less Than Jake, Marcy Playground, Pennywise, Radiohead, Rage Against The Machine, Soul Coughing, Soundgarden, Sunny Day Real Estate, and Swervedriver. (to name just a few) Bands like the Offspring and Swervedriver were so impressed with fans that they each chose one of their best fan sites to become the official web page for the band. In the last few days, the Offspring's label signed a deal to sell MP3's from their official sites. BUT, the unofficial sites are still being allowed to continue to offer multimedia. "An opportunity, not a problem." Well said. Recently, fellow Australian act Cold Chisel released their own statement regarding MP3's. Check it out: "Cold Chisel do not object to the purely noncommercial exchange of music taped at their concerts. That a new medium of distribution has arisen - digital audio files being traded over the Internet, does not change our policy. Our stipulations regarding digital distribution are merely extensions of those long-standing principles and they are as follows: No commercial gain may be sought by websites offering digital files of our music, whether through advertising, exploiting databases compiled from the traffic, or by any other means. All participants in such digital exchange acknowledge and respect the copyrights of the performers, writers, and publishers of the music." Finally some reason! But perhaps it's time to address Mary's letters: > For those who don't know me, I've been firmly planted in this > INXS universe for many years, keeping one foot rooted in the fan > world and the other foot flexed with the various management > incarnations Well, it certainly seems that both of your feet are squarely rooted in the management world now. I think it would be helpful for all of us if you would please define exactly what your relationship with managment now consists of. Are you on the payroll? What is your title? Do you take orders from management? > While I'm not aware of and can't guarantee there won't be other > copyright/industry/website issues coming up in the future > (unauthorized photos, lyrics, logos....whatever the legal eagles > decided to pursue), INXS will always do what their lawyers, > publishers and record companies advise them to do (no mystery > there). It is after all, a business, with over 20 years of the > bands hard work at stake and they will not think twice about > pursuing someone who crosses over the line. I think it's this stupidity that pushes my buttons more than anything else. Are the band members not capable of thinking for themselves? Do they have to rely on their lawyers etc for everything? It's not up to these ancillary staff -- it's up to band -- to decide these issues. And the fact that Mary leaves the door open to management forcing sites to remove lyrics, logos, photos is what is of such concern to fans like myself now. It's not just MP3's as you're trying to make it seem -- it's potentially everything unless we all do as we're told. That's utter bullshit. > With the exception of a few news items on inxsweb.com that the > band were understandably sensitive about and a few private > dressing room photos on another fans site, NO ONE has been told > unequivocally to remove pages "Yet" is the word you forget Mary. Let's talk about this as well, shall we? I removed the links to Vincent Lovegrove's book out of the niceness of my heart. I hadn't read the book when I did this, I was just going by what Davo had told me. In addition, Davo said my good name with the band would be in jeopardy if I did not comply. What the fuck? If that's not coercion at its highest level, I don't know what is. Well, I removed the links, and yes, subsequently read the book -- I now see that Davo was simply over-reacting. The book is not that inflammatory, and certainly doesn't make the band look bad. I guess censorship is alive and well in this day and age. I've also agreed *in principle* and not on any signed document that I will ask management before posting something on my site that I'm not sure of. I also did this out of niceness and because I felt it would be a way of showing that I'm amenable to working with management. But with disrespectful emails continuing to be sent that insult me because I dare to defy the party line -- I'm getting more and more dismayed and disgusted with what is going on. > It greatly saddens me that fans who have dedicated their > hearts and souls (not to mention money and personal time) to > building beautiful tributes to Michael and fantastic dedications > to INXS would feel intimidated and compelled enough to remove > their sites in protest. There's some over-reaction going on > in my opinion. Unbelievable. You just don't get it, do you? Stazya's ROTO pages were a listing of other INXS sites -- why the hell would she help you guys in finding all the other INXS sites just so you can bully them with guidelines and what they can or cannot post? > Neil was asked to remove 2 news items. 1) the sticky bit about > internal management changes which is no one's business and has > no place on a fan's website about the band (it's suppose to be > about entertainment, if you catch my drift) and 2) any support > or reference about Vince Lovegrove's book which the band did not > want any mention of on any INXS websites for legal (and yes > personal) reasons, which again is no one's business why. Enough > said. He was asked to remove them AFTER posting and he did. > Why do you care anyway? That's between Neil and the band, not you. I disagree. As I stated above, I removed these items out of deference to the band, but I certainly did feel like I was being censored. And why isn't it anyone else's business? I refuse to allow management to "divide and conquer" us fans, who in the face of everything, are still trying to do the right thing for the band. You can't selectively address some issues and say that other ones are "no one's business." > Inxs.com has been in existence for 5 years, so it's not like > there's nobody home here. I'm just a mouse click away. Even > inxsweb.com has an agreement to let management know what he plans > to put up before he does it. Sometimes that happens, sometimes > it doesn't. When it doesn't happen, well, then problems can and > do crop up. First off, inxs.com has been in operation for *TWO* years, not five. You may have owned the domain name for that long, but nothing was on the site until Elegantly Wasted was released. It's misleading to try and say anything else. As for my supposedly having some magical "agreement" with management -- I don't remember signing a contract agreeing to let management know when I plan on posting something. I do remember saying I would try and contact them if I wanted to post a rumor that I could not independently verify. To try and bully me into submission by saying my "good name with INXS" is in jeopardy for not obeying every command is not a tactic that seems to be working. I run an unofficial site for a reason -- I have no desire to run an official site where my ability to decide what is news-worthy or not is undermined. > Everybody should ask first about posting ANY kind of music or video > or sensitive and outrageous material (of which there is very > little about INXS anyway). It's wrong-headed to call this > censorship. When most the webmasters originally put up their pages, > the manager at the time hardly even knew where the stupid button > was to turn on a computer much less knew how to address this big > black hole universe. So webmasters were not approached or > monitored and things just went kind of rampant. Bullshit. Yes, Martha Troup is computer illiterate, but Paul Craig and I were able to fashion a pretty nice working relationship. Though dismissed, he was the only manager to date who seemed to realize that management needs to work with fan sites and not against them. Then there are the band members -- most of the band have visited the fan sites, mine included, and only had gracious comments to make. It's only one particular manager (the current one) who feels the need to censor and control everything in the INXS universe. The band even personally okayed me putting multimedia clips on my page in the past -- *nothing* has changed except for the change in management. > Whew, a breath of light (and I don't mean that because you want > to buy something!). Can you tell me what is going on with these > people on the list? What is going on with "these people"? Mary -- I think you need to watch your language more carefully on your posts. You're undermining your whole "I'm with the people" stance. (shakes head) Before you try to answer me point for point, I would suggest you re-read what I've written, and try and look at everything from our point of view. INXS' management is continuing to cause one PR blunder after blunder with fans, and it *has* to stop. Do the right thing and kill this whole "guidelines" bullshit and let fans continue to operate in peace. Our sites weren't broken, so we certainly don't need fixing. -neil -- nkoth@worldnet.att.net kotharne@umdnj.edu neil@inxsweb.com UMDNJ-NJMS 2000 -- http://www.umdnj.edu/~kotharne/ An Excess of INXS -- http://inxsweb.com/ Now Playing: Portishead "Portishead" X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 19:00:27 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:07:36 EDT From: StarIite22@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: INXS.COM Ideas Hi Everyone, The whole INXS.COM issue. I eagerly await to tour this site when it's available I can only stress to the max. My favorites band's official website! Need I stress that any other way? NOT! Now enough with that teenybop crap.... If I ran such a website and actually had the band to participate: Idea #1 Have a page that fans can ask valid questions pertaining to INXS answered by the band members themselves..not questions that are of "sensitive" nature, but valid questions that the band members themselves can choose and answer. or Idea #2 Have an email where fans can submitt questions to the site for the band to answer. place two or three ramdomly picked questions on the site to let fans vote (with a deadline) the question with the most votes gets answered by the band member(s) their answer is then posted on the website the following month for everyone to read. It just would be nice to actually see their involvement, actually see INXS interact every now and then..let fans know they are giving a listen to what is being said...not just that it's being relayed to them through various people close to those involved with them. Yet, as I once posted and someone else has brought it up again, if everything is already there what will INXS.COM have to offer fans that no other site has? ( except MP3s (like that is hard to figure out). Asking what we would like to see on the website will not hold water as I am sure everyone already knows. If they want fans input, why are fans in the dark yet again? Tell fans what is the plans instore for the site and I am sure you will get feedback on it. Its hard to suggest something when you don't know what you're suggesting to. I am just curious and looking forward to what the site will have instore but with many questions. Some trival, some not. Blessings & Univerisal Peace~ Ariyonia X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 19:04:49 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:26:41 EDT From: LBlack9972@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: AOL private Chat Rooms Hello again, Please could anybody help me ,is the AOL private chat room "The Strangest Party"still going on `cos every time i`ve been there ....i`m the only one ! And does anybody know if their are any other chat rooms related to INXS Finally ....I am about to start up an INXS site but I am looking gor some original ideas .....got any drop me a line .....and please NO MP3`s .....:) lol X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 19:36:14 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again >Hi Mary! > >>What exactly do you want to see?? > >Here is my input: > >1) Videos which can't be found on any compilations like: >- Bitter tears >- the non-single "FMDH"-videos >- the "EW"-videos >(Real Video in good quality would be ok, MPEG probably better) > >2) Pictures and/or audio/video from concerts >Like from South Africa and Canada, Germany etc., gigs you couldn't find much >on the net so far > >3) Some info on unreleased tracks like: >Who is singing "It ain't easy"? etc. (THE question! LOL!) > >4) Infos on what the band is doing recently > >I have more ideas, but it's still very early here! ;-) > >Markus Thanks Markus, great stuff here! The South Africa stuff would be great and I'm working on getting photos from the gigs. I guess I always thought Tim was singing It Ain't Easy, but I ain't so sure actually. That's a good one!! Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 19:38:58 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again/JFK Jr >> >We really just want our favorite band back, because (I'm pretty sure >I can speak for most of the list on this one) WE LOVE AND MISS THEM!!! > >I don't know if any of this helps, who am I to tell you or the band >what to do? Or to speak for anyone else on the list. These are just >my thoughts on a few things. > >Well, that's all for me!! > >INXS forever!! >Winnie :-) Thanks Winnie, All duly noted!! Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 20:09:03 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: INXS.COM Ideas >Hi Everyone, > >The whole INXS.COM issue. I eagerly await to tour this site when it's >available I can only stress to the max. My favorites band's official website! >Need I stress that any other way? NOT! Now enough with that teenybop crap.... > >If I ran such a website and actually had the band to participate: > >Idea #1 >Have a page that fans can ask valid questions pertaining to INXS answered by >snip> Thanks for your input Ariyonia. Duly noted! Mary * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the online catalog of official INXS merchandise and fankits, with an orderform you can print out go to: http://www.sirius.com/~mckenzy/in2xs/ For a printed catalog mailed to you, send a SASE - self addressed stamped envelope (US residents) or an IRC - International Reply Coupon (all other people of the world) to: IN2XS, PO Box 460207, San Francisco CA 94146 USA Official INXS website: If this message has reached you in error, I apologize for the inconvenience. Please return this exact message with the words REMOVE ME in the "subject" field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 21:08:12 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:17:25 -0500 From: "Cathy" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: a voice from the other side > ..... INXS will always do what their lawyers, > > publishers and record companies advise them to do... I don't get this. "playing by industry rules" and lax management is what basically killed Elegantly Wasted in the US. Why on earth would the band blindly follow a group of people that has steered them wrong--several times?? X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 21:25:31 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:22:23 EDT From: LauriL2@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: My response to David's post Hi Mary, I just want to let you know that I still stand behind the band 100%!!! I know there are reasons why things have been done the way they were. Who am I to question why. I have loved INXS for most of my life, well 16 years anyway, LOL, and will continue to do so forever. As far as the inxs.com web site, I just would really love for the band to participate as much as they can. Also to hear rare songs that we wouldn't normally have access to. Thanks for your time, Mary! Please pass on my regards to the "guys" and let them know that at least one fan is in their corner, (as I'm sure many are!!) Peace, Lauri X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 21:53:47 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Karen Gerard To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: inxs.com What do I want from inxs.com? I want a Web site which is kept up to date, where I can go after I check my e-mail to see if there's any news that hasn't been posted to the list, because I usually don't have the time to "surf" the net. I really can't see how an official site run by current management and the band could be updated as often as Neil's site. For the most part, management-run or official sites aren't run with the same dedication as the most avid of fans. Case in point: duranduran.com, a crap official site if there ever was one. I could care less if a site has a few cool features after it's official launching if it's not updated. And I have never visited an official site that's equalled its fan-run counterparts. I'll check out inxs.com when it's launched, but from experience, I don't have high hopes for it. Sorry. I'd hate to think that comments like mine would encourage management to shut down fan sites. And if that were to happen, I can't see many of us going to inxs.com just because it's the only INXS site out there. True, most people who buy the next INXS album (if there is one) and see inxs.com listed in the CD booklet will go there and subsequently visit the links at inxs.com But they won't keep going back if it's not impressive. If a site like Neil's isn't out there, future fans may not have the same fervor as people like me, who looked up INXS when I got online (in '95). Even though the band wasn't in its hey day, I was again as big a fan as when Kick was climbing the charts because of INXS' web presence -- namely Neil's site. Another thing: I'd hate to think that the band is basically puppets of their own management. But if they aren't, how could they agree with alienating their own fans? Despite my previous comments on INXS being perhaps the nicest band in the world and caring about their fans, I suppose things could have changed. But I'm inclined to think that INXS are just at a point in their career where they're taking an extended breather, and management has stepped in to do what they think is best. Unfortunately, it's been counterproductive so far. Karen karenduran@yahoo.com X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Sun Jul 18 22:05:24 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:04:47 -0400 From: "DANIELA TROMBA" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Paula & Finley Quaye Hi all! I just got back from a 2 week vacation and have just read this mail. Sounds a little like the movie "knotting hill", don't cha think?? -----Original Message----- From: Irene Cange To: Multiple recipients of Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: INXS: Paula & Finley Quaye >Hi again, > >I found this on Yahoo! UK News: > >Sunday July 4, 1:39 PM > >Paula's Boyfriend Denies Marriage Plans > >Paula Yates and pop star Finley Quaye have scotched >reports that they are about to get married after a >whirlwind romance. > >Speaking at the door of Paula's family home in Notting >Hill, west London, reggae singer Quaye said: "I've >been in the studio all day long. People have been >round here bothering Paula all day. It's just >rumours." > >He answered the door of the house wearing only >patterned underpants. > X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 19 00:03:35 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 21:02:13 PDT From: "Jay Rawding" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: the management saga I've been on the INXS e-mailing list for 5 years now, and I would like to have a whirl at this current topic of conversation. I met INXS only once, and it was in September of 1997. It was quite possibly the best day of my life. And I owe a great deal of this experience to the way management was able to accomodate the fact that as someone who paid for a plane ticket to see the band, they gave me the chance of a lifetime. This was the same year where in this part of Canada Elegantly Wasted was significantly and effectively promoted. I was VERY pleased with the efforts made by management to get the word out to fans. There were relatively quite a few appearances on American programs, and, above all, the title song was being heard here. But when Michael died, communication was severed and, understandably, a great deal of time elapsed before management resumed communication with us, the fans of INXS. In my eyes, the actions of the past few weeks, where management has started asking for MP3's to be removed, is the first TANGIBLE activity seen from the band's representatives in a LONG time. And it leaves us all with nothing but negative impressions, because the MP3's themselves had become a valuable resource for the most diehard of fans who otherwise would never have heard these rare, out of print songs. I was mortified when I first heard that Davy was asked to remove the material from his site. I agree 100% wholeheartedly with every part of Neil's post -- there are NO reasonable, rational excuses for what's happened these past few weeks from a management perspective, if only because it's taken them so long to action this particular decision. I'd like to respond to one other thing: >What does surprise me is the lack of input and interest from the >majority of people on this list. Did everybody clam up because I >showed up? Is this a freeze-out, silent protest, or what? Mary, to be honest with you, I think you are a great person who truly loves the band and is trying her best, but the reason I (and I'll bet many others) haven't answered your question about fan feedback is that age old rule: if we can't say anything nice, we won't say anything at all. This thing has stung a lot of us, and has rocked a boat that up until now was the only boat a lot of us had. Our concerns with management can be clearly found in the public logs of this mailing list, going back several years now. My suggestion as far as fan input goes is for someone with any kind of "authority" to sit down and scroll through all of the ideas, thoughts and feelings that have made themselves known, through countless posts, by a lot of caring, respectful INXS fans of many years on this list. On the one hand, I see why some of these recent management decisions have been made. On the other hand, as a fan, I'm deeply concerned about what's transpired and about what the future holds. And that's about all I know. Jay X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 19 08:18:18 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:22:17 -0700 (PDT) From: in2xs@inxs.com To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: the management saga >I've been on the INXS e-mailing list for 5 years now, and I would like to >have a whirl at this current topic of conversation. >snip> >been made. On the other hand, as a fan, I'm deeply concerned about what's >transpired and about what the future holds. And that's about all I know. > >Jay Thanks so much for your thoughtful exchange. It really helps in my efforts to carry the message back. Mary X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 19 08:24:07 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: bass grl To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: JACK JONES Guys is it true that Garry gary will be w/ Jack next week?\cheers Maz-- " X-From_: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Mon Jul 19 08:24:25 1999 Sender: inxslist@smtp.digitalcastle.com Errors-To: nanci@smtp.digitalcastle.com Reply-To: inxslist@digitalcastle.com X-Listserver: Macjordomo 1b10 - Macintosh Listserver by Michele Fuortes Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:33:57 -0400 From: "Church, Amanda" To: Multiple recipients of Subject: INXS: Re: Mary's back again <> Mary, I for one would really like to see some little blurbs on what the individual band members are up to these days. You know, side projects, upcoming band-related appearances and/or interviews, etc. I'm not talking about the kind of rumors and innuendos we might stumble across in some pulp magazine or sleezy talk show. If you had been monitoring the furor on this list that accompanied the secrecy surrounding the Stadium gig last month, you'd know what I'm talking about. Fans were scrambling for information, ready to believe any shred of lie or truth tossed into the ring. It felt wrong that we--the people who have supported this band for so long--would be the last to know about something as important as this or any other band-related event. Maybe you could set up a section for each band member where there would be a little bio (for those who DON'